geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, homer said: Same OC from Montana St last year. Didn’t blow the doors down there We sure struggled to beat them even though they had a !@#$ qb. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: so your saying sdac got lucky...or did easton the mouthbreather show his true colors when playing from behind? It looks like he said NDSU turned the ball over five times and that is atypical. Believe it or not, most teams lose from time to time, in some cases, about half the time(see: UND in FCS). Quote
Gothmog Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said: so your saying sdac got lucky...or did easton the mouthbreather show his true colors when playing from behind? Stuff happens. NDSU was only undefeated during the regular season once in its run of championships. NDSU will be favored if they play in Texas. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Candidate for most ignorant post of the year. " ... nothing to do wth talent." Wow. Do you even know which plays I'm talking about? They're the type of plays we were asking for all year. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Gothmog said: Stuff happens. NDSU was only undefeated during the regular season once in its run of championships. NDSU will be favored if they play in Texas. As they should be. I would expect Stig to outcoach himself if they meet down there. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 is it time to move away from fcs auto bids from conferences and just pick the top 16? fcs playoffs football is comical 1 Quote
Old School Guy Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Irish said: I hope so but they seem incapable of learning anything. Remember this was their 4th year. Have to admit. NDSU just looks physical, fast and prepared. I hope we can some day play like that in the playoffs. Its going to take a huge shift. NDSU has success and $$$. Questions is which comes first at UND? Quote
jdub27 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: is it time to move away from fcs auto bids from conferences and just pick the top 16? fcs playoffs football is comical Not possible to do in an NCAA sponsored playoff. Quote
homer Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: We sure struggled to beat them even though they had a !@#$ qb. So is it talent or not? We barely beat them because our offense scored 17. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: Do you even know which plays I'm talking about? They're the type of plays we were asking for all year. You honestly cannot think talent has "nothing" to do with it. I was just catching you on your exaggeration. NDSU's OC Messingham has done a nice job, but he was not breaking records or earning raises when coordinating offense at Montana State, Indiana, or Iowa State. Talent differential is always a huge factor; NDSU has superior talent right now. Never dismiss the actual players on the field. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: You honestly cannot think talent has "nothing" to do with it. I was just catching you on your exaggeration. NDSU's OC Messingham has done a nice job, but he was not breaking records or earning raises when coordinating offense at Montana State, Indiana, or Iowa State. Talent differential is always a huge factor; NDSU has superior talent right now. Never dismiss the actual players on the field. With his play calls being great? Yes. A coach can overcome talent with great play calling. He can also accentuate talent with play calling. Those plays I'm talking about would've been successful with anyone running them. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, homer said: So is it talent or not? We barely beat them because our offense scored 17. Other than their qb they had nice talent on offense. It seemed like they were trying to run the 2014 UND offense though. Just trying to keep games close to avoid blowouts. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, geaux_sioux said: A coach can overcome talent with great play calling. Only to a point; there's always a threshold. NDSU physically handled Wofford today - wouldn't have mattered if NDSU had Paul Rudolph or Chris Mussman calling the plays. 1 Quote
johnsowe Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 They said NDSU has 13 guys out to injuries and the backups came in and did not skip a beat. What does UND need to do to get to that level? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Only to a point; there's always a threshold. NDSU physically handled Wofford today - wouldn't have mattered if NDSU had Paul Rudolph or Chris Mussman calling the plays. Wofford couldn't hold on to the ball or stop the pass. Not a great combo. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, johnsowe said: They said NDSU has 13 guys out to injuries and the backups came in and did not skip a beat. What does UND need to do to get to that level? Program depth. 1 Quote
johnsowe Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Program depth. Ok how long does that take? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, johnsowe said: Ok how long does that take? If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, johnsowe said: Ok how long does that take? Obviously for Bubba longer than it should. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. Not just a time element, otherwise the oldest programs and/or longest tenured coaches would all be champions ... Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 NDSU doesn’t do anything exceptional; but, what they do they do exceptionally well. Quote
MafiaMan Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, johnsowe said: They said NDSU has 13 guys out to injuries and the backups came in and did not skip a beat. What does UND need to do to get to that level? Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. 1 Quote
homer Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. 13 off their two deep? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, homer said: 13 off their two deep? No. Not even close. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. If they had our injury situation from this year they would be hurting make no mistake. They do, however, have much much better team depth. 2 Quote
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