Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: App St was the sole public FBS team in those metro markets until U of Charlotte started fb. UNC, NCSU and UGa so dominate their states regardless of their metro area. That's exactly my point. In NC, App State is an after thought, your average rube likely assumes they are still "D2", aka FCS. NDSU's location, as I've read you say on this board time and time again, is a massive disadvantage as they don't fall within the footprint of any FBS conference. But, also because of their location, they wouldn't compete for fans with any other FBS program like Georgia Southern, App State, Liberty, Coastal Carolina or any other recent FCS to FBS move.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Mama Sue said: There really is no reason for this when we should be discussing play offs! True so why dont you direct your comments to the jackass that went down the name calling path to begin with?
nodak651 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 13 hours ago, UNDColorado said: Moving up has very little to do with success. The size of the media market is the primary driver and Fargo doesn't move the needle. 13 hours ago, Bison06 said: I agree that Fargo isn’t a “must have” media market for a conference seeking growth, but I think NDSU’s biggest downfall is location. Boone, NC and Statesboro, GA are far worse markets and the media markets they are in are splitting their loyalties between many schools. NDSU’s TV market as the sole FBS school(assuming UND doesn’t also make the move) would be the entire state and much of Minnesota. So, yes, it’s not a great market, but I think location is more of a factor in conferences not clamoring to add them. All speculation on my part though. I think I agree with Bison06. Media markets for most G5 teams are overrated, IMO. Boise does fine with about the 100th ranked media market, and fargo isn't far behind. Fan base and following is also important. Boise State football will retain its perks in new Mountain West TV contract.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Agree 100%. Most of Minnesota couldn't care less about NDSU and whoever they played a few weeks ago...they were too busy watching Minnesota vs Wisconsin for the right to go to the B1G championship game. You must not live in Minnesota.
Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: funniest thing i've read on here in a long time. Laugh if you want, there are far more NDSU fans in Minnesota than there are in ND.
Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Agree 100%. Most of Minnesota couldn't care less about NDSU and whoever they played a few weeks ago...they were too busy watching Minnesota vs Wisconsin for the right to go to the B1G championship game. Many people follow both programs and would continue to do so if NDSU was FBS. Count me as someone who is both a Gopher and a Bison fan. As long as they aren't in the same conference, being a Gopher fan and a Bison fan aren't mutually exclusive.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MafiaMan said: jimdahl and I crunched the numbers this morning and the results are in! The statistical odds of a message board poster using the phrase "bellow like a pregnant bovine" in a sentence is about .0000000000002% for non-NDSU alumni, but increases to 53% for NDSU alumni. I found that statistic rather interesting. Whats more interesting is the fact that that analogy fits so well here. I will admit------that was nicely played.
MafiaMan Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, bison73 said: You must not live in Minnesota. I can throw a rock and hit TCF Bank Stadium. The only fans in MN who follow the Bison AND Gopher football programs are NDSU alumni who live in the area.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, MafiaMan said: I can throw a rock and hit TCF Bank Stadium. The only fans in MN who follow the Bison AND Gopher football programs are NDSU alumni who live in the area. You cant throw a rock in the Brainerd area with out hitting a Bison fan. And no they didnt go to school there because when I go to town I have that conversation almost every day.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Laugh if you want, there are far more NDSU fans in Minnesota than there are in ND. second funniest thing i've heard on here in a long time......
MafiaMan Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, bison73 said: You cant throw a rock in the Brainerd area with out hitting a Bison fan. And no they didnt go to school there because when I go to town I have that conversation almost every day. So "much of Minnesota" now means the Brainerd area? 1
Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: second funniest thing i've heard on here in a long time...... You do realize that NDSU's student population is made of exactly the same amount of Minnesota students as North Dakota students right? http://www.ndsualumnicenter.com/alumniassociation/maps/national/webmap.htm
MafiaMan Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You do realize that NDSU's student population is made of exactly the same amount of Minnesota students as North Dakota students right? OK, Brainerd AND Moorhead. "Much of Minnesota."
Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, MafiaMan said: OK, Brainerd AND Moorhead. "Much of Minnesota." Much isn't exactly an absolute term. Much means much, many, a lot, an abundance. I never claimed it was all or even a majority. Much of Minnesota follows NDSU football, not sure where the controversy lies here.
MafiaMan Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Much isn't exactly an absolute term. Much means much, many, a lot, an abundance. I never claimed it was all or even a majority. Much of Minnesota follows NDSU football, not sure where the controversy lies here. Your comments were regarding the TV market of NDSU including "much of Minnesota." Let's start with you clarifying what parts of Minnesota would be interested in watching the Bison on a weekly basis.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: So "much of Minnesota" now means the Brainerd area? No pretty much all over MN. I travel the whole state hunting , fishing visiting friends etc etc. So yes we have a pretty good following in MN. Dont know why that is a contention with you. The goofs have been relevant since the ????? 50-60s.
Siouxperkick Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 You guys are being ridiculous. NDSU could definitely support an FBS program. Over Thanksgiving, my family members actually discussed this and argued the logistics of the situation. I proposed that if NDSU joins a conference like the MWC or MAC, replaces the FargoDome and builds a bigger football stadium that holds maybe 25-30K, people would flock to go to games. They could schedule TV rights similar to what Notre Dame does and surrounding states would watch it. App St and Georgia So doesn't have nearly the fanbase that NDSU does, and this is coming from a UND graduate student. The only issue I see would be IS FOOTBALL THE ONLY SPORT THAT IS WORTH GOING FBS AT NDSU?
Bison06 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, MafiaMan said: Your comments were regarding the TV market of NDSU including "much of Minnesota." Let's start with you clarifying what parts of Minnesota would be interested in watching the Bison on a weekly basis. Fair enough, there are equal numbers of NDSU alumni in ND and Minnesota. Given that, wouldn't it be fair to assume that an equal amount of ND and Minnesota people are following and watching NDSU football? So in regards to watching them on TV, why wouldn't you consider those fans who live in Minnesota, who happen to live outside of the Fargo/Moorhead metro as part of NDSU's following?
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Siouxperkick said: You guys are being ridiculous. NDSU could definitely support an FBS program. Over Thanksgiving, my family members actually discussed this and argued the logistics of the situation. I proposed that if NDSU joins a conference like the MWC or MAC, replaces the FargoDome and builds a bigger football stadium that holds maybe 25-30K, people would flock to go to games. They could schedule TV rights similar to what Notre Dame does and surrounding states would watch it. App St and Georgia So doesn't have nearly the fanbase that NDSU does, and this is coming from a UND graduate student. The only issue I see would be IS FOOTBALL THE ONLY SPORT THAT IS WORTH GOING FBS AT NDSU? All others sports are already D1. D1 is D1 . Only football is FBS. 2
Siouxphan27 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Siouxperkick said: You guys are being ridiculous. NDSU could definitely support an FBS program. Over Thanksgiving, my family members actually discussed this and argued the logistics of the situation. I proposed that if NDSU joins a conference like the MWC or MAC, replaces the FargoDome and builds a bigger football stadium that holds maybe 25-30K, people would flock to go to games. They could schedule TV rights similar to what Notre Dame does and surrounding states would watch it. App St and Georgia So doesn't have nearly the fanbase that NDSU does, and this is coming from a UND graduate student. The only issue I see would be IS FOOTBALL THE ONLY SPORT THAT IS WORTH GOING FBS AT NDSU? uhhh….how do you propose they go FBS in other sports?
MafiaMan Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Siouxperkick said: You guys are being ridiculous. NDSU could definitely support an FBS program. Over Thanksgiving, my family members actually discussed this and argued the logistics of the situation. I proposed that if NDSU joins a conference like the MWC or MAC, replaces the FargoDome and builds a bigger football stadium that holds maybe 25-30K, people would flock to go to games. They could schedule TV rights similar to what Notre Dame does and surrounding states would watch it. App St and Georgia So doesn't have nearly the fanbase that NDSU does, and this is coming from a UND graduate student. Surely, you jest.
bison73 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: So "much of Minnesota" now means the Brainerd area? Lets start moving the goal post. You brought up downtown minny. I brought up Brainerd. Next.
The Sicatoka Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, MafiaMan said: the phrase "bellow like a pregnant bovine" in a sentence ... I found that statistic rather interesting. Quite ... moooooooo-ving? 1
oldSioux Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Does anyone know if NDSU has had a "true deep threat" or "blow off the top" WR in their last 8 years of dominance and the coaches only called house plays on every call to try and score each down?
UND1983 Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, oldSioux said: Does anyone know if NDSU has had a "true deep threat" or "blow off the top" WR in their last 8 years of dominance and the coaches only called house plays on every call to try and score each down? No they don't. They have a dominant OL that makes teams adjust up and then they plug-and-play whoever in at WR and they are wide open every other pass - or have no help anywhere around them. 1
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