jdub27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Combination of that and probably Rob Port continuously voting Nodth Dakota to support his agenda. I still haven't figured out his angle on this but his headline that "Newspaper Readers overwhelmingly Oppose New UND Nickname" is absolutely classic. The poll was absolutely trash but regardless, 66.4% of people voted for a new nickname. That seems to be quit opposite of his headline. Math must be hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I still haven't figured out his angle on this but his headline that "Newspaper Readers overwhelmingly Oppose New UND Nickname" is absolutely classic. The poll was absolutely trash but regardless, 66.4% of people voted for a new nickname. That seems to be quit opposite of his headline. Math must be hard. Funny thing is that he quietly changed the headline after a few commenters called him on it. At first, it read: "North Dakotans overwhelmingly Oppose New UND Nickname" As usual in everything he does, he's just trying to click-bait as much as he can to justify advertising on his site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Funny thing is that he quietly changed the headline after a few commenters called him on it. At first, it read: "North Dakotans overwhelmingly Oppose New UND Nickname" As usual in everything he does, he's just trying to click-bait as much as he can to justify advertising on his site. Didn't even catch that, but you are correct. Still an incredibly inaccurate headline but yeah, just trying to generate page views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewey Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think Roughriders makes the top 3. It did receive the most votes. I would guess Roughriders, Sundogs and Nodaks make top 3. I can't see them keeping North Dakota as an option as that would probably run away with the vote. They'll have to come up with some facially legitimate excuse to keep "North Dakota" off of the final 3. The hyperventilating group clarion call to have a nickname, I think, is a resounding acknowledgment that "North Dakota" would run away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewey Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I do wish the committee would come out and say "we don't mean North Dakota as a nickname; we mean 'no nickname'". Why? "North Dakota" as a nickname would be in violation of the NCAA policy because Dakota is a tribe name and can not be used as a nickname. Yes, I'm harping on this point, but people need to know what the intention is, because I really don't believe they mean "North Dakota" as the nickname and should say so to be clear. If they just chose "Dakota" you'd have a point. Putting redundancy aside, "North Dakota" would be fine as a nickname because it's a state. There is no "North Dakota" tribe. That said, they should clarify this to acknowledge what that option actually means. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The hyperventilating group clarion call to have a nickname, I think, is a resounding acknowledgment that "North Dakota" would run away with it. I think it'd depend on who was allowed to vote (and how many times). The last two polls (while a small sample size and very unscientific) have Roughriders as the favorite. It would also depend on what other names and how many are put on the ballot, splitting the vote for those that do not want "no nickname". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Lets Go Fighting Nodaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If they just chose "Dakota" you'd have a point. Putting redundancy aside, "North Dakota" would be fine as a nickname because it's a state. There is no "North Dakota" tribe. That said, they should clarify this to acknowledge what that option actually means. There's no Fighting Sioux tribe* either but that didn't work. The < adjective > < tribe name > pattern (like Fighting Sioux, or North Dakota) as a nickname would not pass muster. *There's Spirit Lake Sioux, and Standing Rock Sioux, and Sisseton-Wahpeton Sioux, but no Fighting Sioux tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I do wish the committee would come out and say "we don't mean North Dakota as a nickname; we mean 'no nickname'". Why? "North Dakota" as a nickname would be in violation of the NCAA policy because Dakota is a tribe name and can not be used as a nickname. Yes, I'm harping on this point, but people need to know what the intention is, because I really don't believe they mean "North Dakota" as the nickname and should say so to be clear. Yeah, but calling a kid Harrison Ford doesn't make him a Ford. I'm not sure they could actually pull that one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Yeah, but calling a kid Harrison Ford doesn't make him a Ford. I'm not sure they could actually pull that one off. Do you expect me to try to Dodge that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Math must be hard. Math with numbers is hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Do you expect me to try to Dodge that one? I wonder how the Dodge brothers would feel about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The popular vote is breaking to Roughriders. It should make the final three easily. However, I just am not sure this committee will accept the will of the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakhoops Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I checked out the forum poll and when comparing that to the SS one one thing stands out. People really have no interest in green Hawks fighting Hawks Sundogs or Nodaks. North Stars is 3rd in both but even that is way behind. Looks to me like the popular opinion might be down to two names. Only question left would be if they eliminate just ND and what those people then vote on. These polls could mean nothing, but that caught my eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The popular vote is breaking to Roughriders. It should make the final three easily. However, I just am not sure this committee will accept the will of the people. Your last statement is the biggest issue left in this nickname eqaution and with the complete lack of leadership I have seen from anyone on this committee my opinion is the "will of the people" means little to the "we know what is best" from the committee. I was expecting a whole lot more from Karl, Dave and Lowell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I checked out the forum poll and when comparing that to the SS one one thing stands out. People really have no interest in green Hawks fighting Hawks Sundogs or Nodaks. North Stars is 3rd in both but even that is way behind. Looks to me like the popular opinion might be down to two names. Only question left would be if they eliminate just ND and what those people then vote on. These polls could mean nothing, but that caught my eye. They really, really, really don't mean that much. As I stated earlier, I saw people commenting on how many times they voted for "no nickname" and encouraged others to do the same because: "Fighting Sioux!". Most definitely did not see that kind of manipulation for the other choices. Again, exactly why any public vote needs to have very tight controls. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Jim's poll in this allows for multiple selections. At this time I see 124 members have cast 197 votes (about 1.6 votes per member). So for every 5 members, about 8 votes have been tossed in. Anyone else interested in what "one choice only, live with it forever" poll results would look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I wonder how the Dodge brothers would feel about that? They'd probably Chrysler!* *Say it slowly ... cry slur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I am hoping that no name or "North Dakota" is left off the final names that get voted on. If it is Roughriders against any other name, I think that Roughriders wins without a doubt. If North Dakota is in there, it could be close. We need a decisive super majority type of numbers for a new nickname. If 2/3 of the votes are for one name, thatn I would say that is pretty unifying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Then how do any of us play defense on this? What is the correct solution. Direct contact with committee members saying do not go with Sundogs? Bu supporting the Roughriders even if you don't like it much (like me) - seems the least offensive of the lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Does it seem so incredibly painful that if they go with the easy, lame and unoriginal Roughriders, like has been talked about for so many years.... That this whole god forsaken process was a magnanimous waste of time, money, and resources? I mean really we are coming down to....for all the time and money spent, Either pilfering a used nickname form a high school down the street, or just not even picking one. The lessons on failure here should be taught in every school in the state, from elementary to MBAs 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Does it seem so incredibly painful that if they go with the easy, lame and unoriginal Roughriders, like has been talked about for so many years.... That this whole god forsaken process was a magnanimous waste of time, money, and resources? I mean really we are coming down to....for all the time and money spent, Either pilfering a used nickname form a high school down the street, or just not even picking one. The lessons on failure here should be taught in every school in the state, from elementary to MBAs I really didn't expect anything more. It is what happens when you try to be all inclusive and let everyone have a voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I guess I'm in agreement with RD17 when he said here, " ... Roughriders as the top choice because it is the only name that makes sense." That's why it's easy. "Lame and unoriginal" are your opinion. However, I will agree with you on one point: Taking a decade plus to end up with the obvious is a waste of time and money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I really didn't expect anything more. It is what happens when you try to be all inclusive and let everyone have a voice. Pretty much any time you try to do something "by committee" you end up with the obvious at 10x price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dagger Posted June 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2015 It seems like people aren't going to be happy no matter what happens. I think it is becoming apparent that Roughriders or no name is going to be the new name. I think Roughriders is going to be the choice. People are already saying we could of done that right away and saved a lot of time and money. The problem with that is if they hadn't gone through the process people would of really gone ballistic. They would of been a lot madder than they are going to be now. As fans we should have to try to support the committee. They are good people. They are trying their best in a very difficult situation. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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