Old Time Hockey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Dude, you been living under a rock the lst 10 years? YOu need to meet a good friend of mine. His name is Reality!! The name ain't coming back. Time to move on. The only way that there is even a chance for UND to be known as the Fighting Sioux ever again is if the NCAA changes its policy on native american names for college nicknames. There is deffiitely a ZERO percent chance that will happen. So that is why us here in the real worl realize that the name is not coming back. Maybe seeking the council of a of a grammar expert might do you some good If schools like Stanford, St. Johns, Marquette, etc have not made an attempt to change back even before it wasn't an NCAA policy, why would you ever think that UND would now that there is a policy against natice american nicknames. Wait.. were you the one I saw the other day wearing a maroon "Redskins Forever" shirt?!! Last time I checked, this is how you spell "definitely"...... While we are at it, one seeks counsel, not council as you have stated! 1 Quote
Popular Post petey23 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2015 Ralph is dead so we shouldn't really care what he wants anymore. Well, Mr. Engelstad has passed away but I think I can speak for him and say Eat a Dick. 6 Quote
Old Time Hockey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 People voted for it because they had a gun to their head. And yes the gun is still sitting on the table but that doesn't mean people don't want to keep the name if there would be a way to accomplish that. And it certainly doesn't speak as to what any public sentiment is with regard to just being North Dakota vs getting a new nickname. I also do not agree with you that the younger crowd has less passion for the name. On the contrary just look at the players words to hear their passion for our name. ...I'm suprised Fiason hasn't gone gestapo on them. This is from the recent GF Herald Q&A piece with Colten St. Clair...... Q. If you were UND’s president for a day, what two things would you do? A. Can I say bring back the Fighting Sioux logo? I’d bring back the logo, even if it was just for a day. And I’d maybe have a Red Pepper stand in the middle of campus. He is not the first and probably won't be the last to answer the question in the similar manner. That is of course if someone from the University cries foul to the Herald and has them quit asking the question! Maybe some of you holier-than-thou folks on this board should go tell Colten and the rest of our student-athletes that they need to move on like you've been preaching to us! 2 Quote
yababy8 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I wish people who are or could be taken as graduates or students of the Univ. of N. Dakota would pay more attention to grammar. A good starting point would be distinguishing between and properly using there/their/they're and your/you're. But then again, I admit t being a grammar Nazi.I can assure you I know very well the difference between s possessive pronoun and a contraction... Its just hard to catch when you ' re posting on yourrrr phone while driving.:-) ...if you ' re going to be a grammar Nazi why don't you work at teaching the entire state of North Dakota that it is "should have gone" or "should have come" Vs "should have went" or "should have came". :-) Quote
Old Time Hockey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Ralph is dead so we shouldn't really care what he wants anymore. Nothing on this forum has really pissed me off like this has! I would much rather see Bison trolls on here, than you! A Sioux fan you are not. We are all dumber for having listened to you. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul! 1 Quote
TBR Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I can assure you I know very well the difference between s possessive pronoun and a contraction... Its just hard to catch when you ' re posting on yourrrr phone while driving.:-) ...if you ' re going to be a grammar Nazi why don't you work at teaching the entire state of North Dakota that it is "should have gone or should have come. Vs should have went or should have came..:-) How about "should OF gone" ? As in should OF gone to English class. Quote
TBR Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Wasn't trying to rip on you specifically, yababy. I was just making a general observation and yes, typos are something that I myself am all too proficient at. Quote
yababy8 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I can assure you I know very well the difference between s possessive pronoun and a contraction... Its just hard to catch when you ' re posting on yourrrr phone while driving.:-) ...if you ' re going to be a grammar Nazi why don't you work at teaching the entire state of North Dakota that it is "should have gone" or "should have come" Vs "should have went" or "should have came". :-) Oh I can't leave out "should have done" vs "should have did" That is Cober's favorite..:-) Quote
TBR Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 How about misuse of reflexive pronouns? An example would be: "give the ticket to myself". Quote
FightingSioux87 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Ralph is dead so we shouldn't really care what he wants anymore. Who is able to do the suspending/removing of people from this site? Cuz this guys needs to go! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I was a "forever" guy at one time; times, environments, conditions, consequences, changed, and so did I. I won't claim to speak for others, especially the dead. I will note that positions must be viewed in the context of their times. We don't know what Mr. Englestad, the pragmatic business man, would have for a position today. To claim to know is foolhardy. 4 Quote
FightingSioux87 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 This is from the recent GF Herald Q&A piece with Colten St. Clair...... Q. If you were UND’s president for a day, what two things would you do? A. Can I say bring back the Fighting Sioux logo? I’d bring back the logo, even if it was just for a day. And I’d maybe have a Red Pepper stand in the middle of campus. He is not the first and probably won't be the last to answer the question in the similar manner. That is of course if someone from the University cries foul to the Herald and has them quit asking the question! Maybe some of you holier-than-thou folks on this board should go tell Colten and the rest of our student-athletes that they need to move on like you've been preaching to us! Agreed! Most if not all of the hockey players continue to reference us as the Sioux and always will. Even many of the incoming football recruits twitter feeds refer to us as the Sioux. 1 Quote
Popular Post UND1983 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Posted January 30, 2015 This is from the recent GF Herald Q&A piece with Colten St. Clair...... Q. If you were UND’s president for a day, what two things would you do? A. Can I say bring back the Fighting Sioux logo? I’d bring back the logo, even if it was just for a day. And I’d maybe have a Red Pepper stand in the middle of campus. He is not the first and probably won't be the last to answer the question in the similar manner. That is of course if someone from the University cries foul to the Herald and has them quit asking the question! Maybe some of you holier-than-thou folks on this board should go tell Colten and the rest of our student-athletes that they need to move on like you've been preaching to us! I like how the name lover's act like President Kelly or UND or Faison are going to start "telling the media they cannot ask about the Sioux name" - or "make you stop wearing your Sioux gear!". They have not done it yet and never will but you guys keep threatening that they are going to, with no proof to back it up. Bunch of tough guys on here for no reason. Stop fear mongering. 5 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Rob Robertson and Rich Richardson will be co-signing. Just talked to Pete Peterson about it. He said he has better things to waste his time on..... Quote
UND1983 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Agreed! Most if not all of the hockey players continue to reference us as the Sioux and always will. Even many of the incoming football recruits twitter feeds refer to us as the Sioux. Because we don't have another name...yet. Then, those players will refer to that name. 4 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Because we don't have another name...yet. Then, those players will refer to that name. Shhhh, don't talk common sense on here. It bothers some people! Quote
Chewey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 The "pissed off citizenry" I see voted by a significant margin to end this gong show (and to quit bleeding money into it) by voting to allow UND to remove the name. What I see now are more and more people asking, "Why isn't this done yet?" Purely anecdotal, but I see the younger folks saying, "Just pick something and move on" and the ... ahem ... "more mature" crowd wallowing in history. Disclaimer: My ID puts me on the line between younger and "more mature". Heck, I've never been accused of being too mature. Really? That must be why two "younger folks" who are recent Fighting Sioux hockey recruits denoted #Fighting Sioux in their correspondence when they indicated that they had chosen UND. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Really? That must be why two "younger folks" who are recent Fighting Sioux hockey recruits denoted #Fighting Sioux in their correspondence when they indicated that they had chosen UND. Because we don't have another name...yet. Then, those players will refer to that name. You can't fill a void with a nothing. Quote
Chewey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 I like how the name lover's act like President Kelly or UND or Faison are going to start "telling the media they cannot ask about the Sioux name" - or "make you stop wearing your Sioux gear!". They have not done it yet and never will but you guys keep threatening that they are going to, with no proof to back it up. Bunch of tough guys on here for no reason. Stop fear mongering. Well, when you combine a "process" to select a nickname - any reasonable nickname - as soon as possible with the reason being to "encourage" people not only to yell anything other than "Fighting Sioux" at games but also to "cleanse" people from thinking about the former nickname along with certain parties - yes, the very same ones that the university and Kelley cow-towed to in the first place -- on campus assaulting the general public with invective about not allowing people to wear Fighting Sioux attire on campus, it's really not too much of a stretch. Quote
Shawn-O Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Well, when you combine a "process" to select a nickname - any reasonable nickname - as soon as possible with the reason being to "encourage" people not only to yell anything other than "Fighting Sioux" at games but also to "cleanse" people from thinking about the former nickname along with certain parties - yes, the very same ones that the university and Kelley cow-towed to in the first place -- on campus assaulting the general public with invective about not allowing people to wear Fighting Sioux attire on campus, it's really not too much of a stretch. By cow-towing you mean settle, versus shut down athletics. Making sure I understand correctly. Quote
Chewey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 You can't fill a void with a nothing. No "void". It's "North Dakota". It certainly would make sense that they'd have denoted #North Dakota, accordingly. Choose any replacement and they probably would have done the same thing. When "progressive change" is effected through monopolistic fiat and economic terrorism, when you have some affected parties accept it for pragmatic reasons (and this is being all too generous in describing that particular sentiment) and when you have a rush to change based upon not only transparent and flawed reasoning but an explicit desire to expunge the former name and logo from the vernacular and from people's thinking, you're going to have long-lasting, vociferous, significant opposition. 2 Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 Well, when you combine a "process" to select a nickname - any reasonable nickname - as soon as possible with the reason being to "encourage" people not only to yell anything other than "Fighting Sioux" at games but also to "cleanse" people from thinking about the former nickname along with certain parties - yes, the very same ones that the university and Kelley cow-towed to in the first place -- on campus assaulting the general public with invective about not allowing people to wear Fighting Sioux attire on campus, it's really not too much of a stretch. Last time I checked, UND campus was not located in North Korea. So I am pretty sure you will be ok wearing your Sioux clothing on campus. Quote
Chewey Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 By cow-towing you mean settle, versus shut down athletics. Making sure I understand correctly. No. You understand incorrectly so your stated self-assurance is for naught, unfortunately. For purposes of clarification, there are professors and administrators and some students on the UND campus who have stated that the simple wearing of Fighting Sioux attire causes a "hostile" atmosphere on campus and makes a lot of people want to cry. It's these that I'm referring to. I don't think UND settled with any of them. Quote
Teeder11 Posted January 30, 2015 Posted January 30, 2015 No. You understand incorrectly so your stated self-assurance is for naught, unfortunately. For purposes of clarification, there are professors and administrators and some students on the UND campus who have stated that the simple wearing of Fighting Sioux attire causes a "hostile" atmosphere on campus and makes a lot of people want to cry. It's these that I'm referring to. I don't think UND settled with any of them. I wear my Fighting Sioux clothing on campus all the time and don't hear any of these things that you speak of on a daily basis -- or ever for that matter. And even if I did, I would respect someone's opinion to say whatever the hell they want, and I'd just keep wearing the stuff. Just because the NCAA says the school cannot be the Fighting Sioux without sanctions, does not mean I have to stop wearing it. And when a new name is selected someday, I'll probably change it up, and wear the new name and logo gear some days (but then, I will probably have to listen to the boos and hisses from the nickname at all costs crowd telling me that I can't wear the new stuff because I sold my soul or something -- to which I would respectfully ignore, allow them their opinion and keep on doing whatever the hell I want to as an individual.) See, it can go both ways. 3 Quote
Fetch Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 Could u re-state that (Is that a word ?) Quote
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