iramurphy Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Ok here we go. Not much chance the trolls or (even our guys) will adhere to keeping the stupid discussions here rather than the other sports blogs but it would be great if those comments could get forwarded here. The Ag school guys with all of the employees and money and time can come here. It will make it easier for poor souls like me who have never accomplished much to come and admire them for all of their deeds and dollars. Anyway , we can redirect the rebuttals here. Merry Christmas and God Bless America. Quote
VMeister Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Is this the place for recruiting analysis? Quote
CMSioux Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Is the strategy to lure them all in the same room and then lock the door? Quote
iramurphy Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 No just 2011bison and his pal the Great Gatsby. GF hockey will challenge them to a comparison of W-2's and then we lock the room. Quote
gfhockey Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I promise when I become mod these two will shape up or else they gone Quote
jdub27 Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Serious question - How is a former NDSU coach/current NFL coach calling a recruit and congratulating them on verbally committing to NDSU not a recruiting violation? Am I missing something about the recruiting rules about contacting recruits, especially before they have signed a LOI? Or since Bradley Wash is no longer technically associated with NDSU, it is considered OK? For the record, nothing showed UND had interest in the kid at all, so this isn't "sour grapes". Exciting for the kid for sure, but just seems strange. Quote
bang Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Serious question - How is a former NDSU coach/current NFL coach calling a recruit and congratulating them on verbally committing to NDSU not a recruiting violation? Am I missing something about the recruiting rules about contacting recruits, especially before they have signed a LOI? Or since Bradley's no longer technically associated with NDSU, it is considered OK? For the record, nothing showed UND had interest in the kid at all, so this isn't "sour grapes". Exciting for the kid for sure, but just seems strange. Never heard about this but in my mind there wouldn't be anything wrong with it as far as recruiting. I think as long as they report it and the purpose of the call has nothing to do with the NFL coach recruiting the player to the NFL it's perfectly fine. Yet, there is so many loopholes I think the NC00 can find something wrong with just about anything if they want to. Quote
CMSioux Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Actually Bradley would be considered an FU booster by definition - and until a player is on campus I don't believe a booster can make any kind of contact - but there must be a loophole or the NCAA is too busy chasing down UND players wearing Sioux pins on their jackets to take issue with it. Violations are to reported to the school's compliance office. Quote
bang Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Actually Bradley would be considered an FU booster by definition - and until a player is on campus I don't believe a booster can make any kind of contact - but there must be a loophole or the NCAA is too busy chasing down UND players wearing Sioux pins on their jackets to take issue with it. Violations are to reported to the school's compliance office. That's true, Bradley at this point he's not a NFL coach he's a booster. Either way as much as I dislike NDSU I hope nothing comes of this. If Jimmy K wants to call a recruit and tell him he'd like too see him at UND he should be allowed. Although on the flip side you can't let these high school kids get inundated with calls from alumni/boosters. You have to have some rules. Quote
jdub27 Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Seemed strange coming across my Twitter feed earlier. Also, I asked a buddy about it and he says it wasn't Bradley, it was another former NDSU coach who is on the Jag's staff, I guess I'll take his word for it. Edited my original post to reflect. If legal, maybe Phil could lend a hand to Jones. Quote
homer Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 I really hope that gets looked into because that is walking a fine line of potential student athlete/booster contact. Last I checked signing day is not until February. Quote
iramurphy Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Never heard about this but in my mind there wouldn't be anything wrong with it as far as recruiting. I think as long as they report it and the purpose of the call has nothing to do with the NFL coach recruiting the player to the NFL it's perfectly fine. Yet, there is so many loopholes I think the NC00 can find something wrong with just about anything if they want to. No loophole, no alumnus, booster, college professor, or others who have a connection to the college in question, are allowed to contact students. That includes former players and coaches. Same thing that got Nanne and Sonmor in trouble when they contacted Pariese. It is clearly a violation. Rule is clear. Former players and Fighting Sioux club members are reminded of this rule annually. The recruit could contact an alumnus but the alumnus can't initiate the contact. Quote
dlsiouxfan Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 No loophole, no alumnus, booster, college professor, or others who have a connection to the college in question, are allowed to contact students. That includes former players and coaches. Same thing that got Nanne and Sonmor in trouble when they contacted Pariese. It is clearly a violation. Rule is clear. Former players and Fighting Sioux club members are reminded of this rule annually. The recruit could contact an alumnus but the alumnus can't initiate the contact. NDAC has been playing fast and loose with this rule for years now. Lakesbison and his crew of lackeys routinely commit recruiting violations and their athletic departments just winks at it. Quote
jdub27 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 No loophole, no alumnus, booster, college professor, or others who have a connection to the college in question, are allowed to contact students. That includes former players and coaches. Same thing that got Nanne and Sonmor in trouble when they contacted Pariese. It is clearly a violation. Rule is clear. Former players and Fighting Sioux club members are reminded of this rule annually. The recruit could contact an alumnus but the alumnus can't initiate the contact. This is what I assumed. Figured you were one of the people who'd be able to shed a little light on it. Weird how the NDSU faithful have no problem inserting their opinions everywhere else on this board but yet not a peep on explaining this... Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Did Bradley do it or did a different coach? Honestly I don't know. Would the NCAA just tell him not to do it again or? Quote
bang Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Did Bradley do it or did a different coach? Honestly I don't know. Would the NCAA just tell him not to do it again or? A poster awhile back put on here that a recent commit to NDSU tweeted that he got a call from Bradley giving him congrats on his verbal to the Bison. Not sure if that's true or not but according to Ira who seems to know a lot it's a big no no. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 A poster awhile back put on here that a recent commit to NDSU tweeted that he got a call from Bradley giving him congrats on his verbal to the Bison. Not sure if that's true or not but according to Ira who seems to know a lot it's a big no no. I saw the tweet said something about a Jacksonville Jaguar coach... I'd presume it to be Bradley as well, but was it for sure him? That I do not know. Hope it isn't a huge deal or anything. Boosters should stay out... Tough for schools to regulate though. Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 A poster awhile back put on here that a recent commit to NDSU tweeted that he got a call from Bradley giving him congrats on his verbal to the Bison. Not sure if that's true or not but according to Ira who seems to know a lot it's a big no no. Maybe Gus should just focus on trying to win a football game or two. Quote
bang Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I saw the tweet said something about a Jacksonville Jaguar coach... I'd presume it to be Bradley as well, but was it for sure him? That I do not know. Hope it isn't a huge deal or anything. Boosters should stay out... Tough for schools to regulate though. I agree but rules are rules. There needs to be some sort of order for the kids getting recruited. Especially the big time recruits at big schools. Quote
jdub27 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 A poster awhile back put on here that a recent commit to NDSU tweeted that he got a call from Bradley giving him congrats on his verbal to the Bison. Not sure if that's true or not but according to Ira who seems to know a lot it's a big no no. I originally misunderstood it. It wasn't Bradley, it was Todd Wash, Jacksonville's Defensive Line coach and former NDSU assistant coach. I also saw that a poster that is normally pretty reputable on NDSU stuff had a comment that this is by no means the first time its happened. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe Gus should just focus on trying to win a football game or two. He just fired his OC. Maybe he doesn't own a mirror........... Quote
homer Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I originally misunderstood it. It wasn't Bradley, it was Todd Wash, Jacksonville's Defensive Line coach and former NDSU assistant coach. I also saw that a poster that is normally pretty reputable on NDSU stuff had a comment that this is by no means the first time its happened. It would be a lot harder to prove this isn't a frequent thing at FU than to prove it was a one time occurrence. Also, are the phone calls only taking place to congratulate recruits or are there recruiting calls being made by Coach Walsh? Quote
bang Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this. Quote
iramurphy Posted December 31, 2014 Author Posted December 31, 2014 Did Bradley do it or did a different coach? Honestly I don't know. Would the NCAA just tell him not to do it again or? NCAA has no authority over Bradley. They might send a note to NDSU officials reminding them they are responsible for their Alumni and boosters. This isn't a big deal unless they keep doing it and it becomes more public Quote
darell1976 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 SDSU is NDSU's rival the proof is in these attendance numbers for men's basketball. NDSU vs SDSU 3368 NDSU vs UND 4189 Oh wait more people attended the UND game than their conference rival? Wow I guess we were NDSU's Super Bowl. Quote
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