Injuries 2014

[geaux_sioux]

This injuries are an unfortunate side effect of limited depth; however, they are also related to strength and conditioning.

Is the UND Football strength and conditioning program where it needs to be?

Guys like Rattelle who are all in seem to have decent results. It'll take a couple years to have a full team of guys like him.

[UND-FB-FAN]

The offense is devastated by injuries, and prior to the injuries, the offense wasn't very productive to begin with.

2 QBs

3 RBs (Norberg didn't carry the ball vs EWU)

2 WRs (both starters)

1 TE (best receiving target)

Offensive line is patchwork with questionable ability

The positional depth needs to improve for this program before UND will be able to perservere through such adversity; not only offense but also defense. The recruiting moving forward is so key for Bubba and UND; thankfully, it appears this year's recruiting class is coming together alright. IPF doesn't hurt either.

[CMSioux]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/tom-miller-be-patient-und-qb-situation

 

Pretty big leap to assume that fans are going to come down on Studsrud after just one game. Even the biggest nay-sayers and armchair coaches haven't come up with that opinion (yet).

[Matt]

The offense is devastated by injuries, and prior to the injuries, the offense wasn't very productive to begin with.

2 QBs

3 RBs (Norberg didn't carry the ball vs EWU)

2 WRs (both starters)

1 TE (best receiving target)

Offensive line is patchwork with questionable ability

The positional depth needs to improve for this program before UND will be able to perservere through such adversity; not only offense but also defense. The recruiting moving forward is so key for Bubba and UND; thankfully, it appears this year's recruiting class is coming together alright. IPF doesn't hurt either.

I think that is the key.  If the offensive line could play at an even average level to establish a consistent run game it would take a lot of pressure off.  Despite the injuries to specialists, poor line play is the common thread among all the deficiencies even prior to the injuries.

[Matt]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/content/tom-miller-be-patient-und-qb-situation

 

Pretty big leap to assume that fans are going to come down on Studsrud after just one game. Even the biggest nay-sayers and armchair coaches haven't come up with that opinion (yet).

Just about the only thing I agreed with in that piece was not judging Studsrud after one game.

 

"We very well could see Studsrud for the final three games of the season. And let’s be honest, these are the three games UND fans should look to in order to define the year."

 

No, we should not be using games vs Weber, NAU, and UNC to define any year.

[UND92,96]

I think that is the key.  If the offensive line could play at an even average level to establish a consistent run game it would take a lot of pressure off.  Despite the injuries to specialists, poor line play is the common thread among all the deficiencies even prior to the injuries.

 

I think everyone agrees that the o-line is not where it needs to be, but the fact that Jer Garman has averaged 4.5 yards per carry the last two games (43 carries for 194 yards), even with no threat of a passing game in one of those games, tells me that at least the line is improving as a run-blocking unit.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just about the only thing I agreed with in that piece was not judging Studsrud after one game.

"We very well could see Studsrud for the final three games of the season. And let’s be honest, these are the three games UND fans should look to in order to define the year."

No, we should not be using games vs Weber, NAU, and UNC to define any year.

Ironic scheduling; right now UND is more of a Weber State-type team than an Eastern Washington-type team. Sad truth for a once proud program (albeit never in the DI days).

Trusting in Bubba's ability to recruit.

[fgoSioux]

This injuries are an unfortunate side effect of limited depth; however, they are also related to strength and conditioning.

Is the UND Football strength and conditioning program where it needs to be?

Sorry, don't agree with that.  Injuries happen...Call it bad luck, but they are beyond the control of the coach's in my opinon...

[gundy1124]

I think everyone agrees that the o-line is not where it needs to be, but the fact that Jer Garman has averaged 4.5 yards per carry the last two games (43 carries for 194 yards), even with no threat of a passing game in one of those games, tells me that at least the line is improving as a run-blocking unit.

 

Although defenses tend to get a little relaxed with 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 touchdown leads.....and the backups start playing.  I'd like to see good rushing numbers in a closer game.

[UND92,96]

Although defenses tend to get a little relaxed with 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 touchdown leads.....and the backups start playing.  I'd like to see good rushing numbers in a closer game.

 

I agree, but the talent level probably doesn't allow for this group to ever run for much more than maybe 150 yards in a game. And when we were passing for around 200 yards per game, 100 to 150 rushing yards would have been fine. Unfortunately, injuries have decimated the passing game, and the running game is simply not capable of picking up the slack.

 

I guess my point was that I don't think the running game is the primary issue right now. The exact degree of improvement is certainly open to debate, but I do think some progress has been made since early in the season.

[Cratter]

Just about the only thing I agreed with in that piece was not judging Studsrud after one game.

"We very well could see Studsrud for the final three games of the season. And let’s be honest, these are the three games UND fans should look to in order to define the year."

No, we should not be using games vs Weber, NAU, and UNC to define any year.

Why was Studsrud taking reps with the scout team this week when he played on Saturday?

Bartles got injured in the game before.

Unless I'm missing something and Bartles was getting better and then reinjured himself in practice.

Unless the author meant to say taking reps with the scout team two weeks before.

[BigGame]

I guess my problem with pulling Studsrud redshirt it that I assumed even with Bartles being hurt that it was minor and at most he misses one game.  If he is healthy enough to play I can't see Studsrud playing over him at this point. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

I guess my problem with pulling Studsrud redshirt it that I assumed even with Bartles being hurt that it was minor and at most he misses one game. If he is healthy enough to play I can't see Studsrud playing over him at this point.

Studsrud will be starting this Saturday vs. Weber State.

Staff pulled his shirt so they figure they just as well see how he does these last 3 games.

[The Sicatoka]

The nature of Bartles' injury has never been revealed beyond "shoulder" and "game time decision". 

 

I suspect there's more to it if they pulled the redshirt off Studsrud.

[UNDBIZ]

Studsrud will be starting this Saturday vs. Weber State.

Staff pulled his shirt so they figure they just as well see how he does these last 3 games.

 

Are you saying he's starting because the staff want to see what he can do or because Bartels won't be able to play still?

[Cratter]

Play Bartles if he's capable. I don't care of they pulled a redshirt or not.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Are you saying he's starting because the staff want to see what he can do or because Bartels won't be able to play still?

I don't know all the details associated with Bartels' injury but the staff wishes to see how Studsrud does I believe. Also, Bartels is definitely not 100 %

Will know more after today's press conference but this morning on Tim and Swyg it sounded like Studsrud will get the nod again.

[UNDBIZ]

Play Bartles if he's capable. I don't care of they pulled a redshirt or not.

 

I agree.  I was under the impression the objective was to play the qb most capable of winning the game.

 

Day by day.

[UND-FB-FAN]

I agree. I was under the impression the objective was to play the qb most capable of winning the game.

Day by day.

Bartels is not in full health. Studsrud will get an opportunity to play because the staff wants to see how he improves from game 1 to game 2.

Like all games this year, if UND wins it will be because of their defense and special teams, not the offense. Too many holes in the offense to try mask with a change at only 1 position (QB).

[UND-1]

Why was Studsrud taking reps with the scout team this week when he played on Saturday?

Bartles got injured in the game before.

Unless I'm missing something and Bartles was getting better and then reinjured himself in practice.

Unless the author meant to say taking reps with the scout team two weeks before.

 

He was not running the scout team the same week he was preparing for EWU.  

[New 2 UND]

Bubba and the coaching staff need to thoroughly review and update Strength and Conditioning.  The injuries are far too many to attribute to bad luck.

[geaux_sioux]

Bubba and the coaching staff need to thoroughly review and update Strength and Conditioning. The injuries are far too many to attribute to bad luck.

You need to look at the type of injuries. Torn ligaments are not the fault of the S/C staff.

[UNDBIZ]

Oskie,

As I go through your comments I cannot believe how ignorant you are. Pretty much every one of those injuries that you listed is because of strength and conditioning. I would argue to my grave that there a very, very few programs that have 4 torn ACL’s during a single season. There is a reason!!

It is because you have a strength staff at UND who does not work on mobility, flexibility, or speed. They spend all their time squatting, and heavy olympic lifting which puts strain on knees and joints. UND does not stretch before games, they do a half assed warm up if you have ever been to a game early or watched practice. If UND is going to be competitive not only will they need better players. They will need a strength staff who has a clue about what it takes to play D1 football. A strength coach who promotes mobility, and flexibility which in turn leads to injury prevention. Defend them as much as you want OSKIE!

 

 

So this was posted on SFI.  The guy seems to have a personal issue with Oskie for some reason, but aside from that, is his argument remotely valid regarding UND strength and conditioning?

[Ozzie82]

So this was posted on SFI.  The guy seems to have a personal issue with Oskie for some reason, but aside from that, is his argument remotely valid regarding UND strength and conditioning?

I have heard a number of complaints about the S+C coach... specifically that everyone does the exact same workout, as in the punter does the exact same off season workout as the defensive linemen.  There is some hope about a change in the off season.

[dlsiouxfan]

So this was posted on SFI.  The guy seems to have a personal issue with Oskie for some reason, but aside from that, is his argument remotely valid regarding UND strength and conditioning?

 

Not even close to valid.   They work on speed, agility, and mobility all offseason.  They also focus largely on Olympic lifting and squatting which will do more to prevent knee injuries than focusing on any of the other three.  There are many programs all over the country with four ACL injuries in a season.  This game is tough on knees, especially with the rule changes directing collisions downward away from players heads.  UND's strength program is pretty similar to most strength programs throughout the country.  It focuses on getting players strong and powerful which will make them faster and better athletes.  It is hard work though and, if a player, doesn't get faster or stronger then they probably need to take a long look in the mirror.