Cratter Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 4:04 AM, Cratter said: 4-6 new businesses (and/or existing ones expanding). Expand Which got me thinking. How many different buildings have the word Acme on them in Grand Forks? Five? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 4:13 PM, fightingsioux4life said: Top candidates for the next Interstate Interchange: -17th Avenue South (next to the Alerus Center). -47th Avenue South (the city is growing in that area). -Merrifield Road (bridge is already there, just need to add ramps). The new south-end bridge (it is inevitable that we will need one whether people like it or not) should go in at 47th Avenue South; it would impact far fewer people than 32nd Avenue South. Expand 17th Avenue South is a non-starter. It's a mile from both 32nd Avenue and Demers Avenue. What should go there is an underpass (no ramps) like at 40th Avenue in Fargo. That would let Alerus traffic go west from events to the north-south road in the industrial park and then to 32nd or Demers. I know the King's Walk folks want 47th Ave but it'd be more cost effective to finally put ramps on Merrifield Road (where there's already an overpass). It's only three miles from Merrifield Road to 32nd Avenue South. Putting in a Merrifield exchange would truly open up south end development. As far as a south bridge over the Red ... 32nd would make sense as would Merrifield Road, because they'd line up well to Minnesota side roadways, so those can't happen. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 21, 2019 Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 8:51 PM, VMeister said: I believe whether urban interstate speed limits are lower is determined by population/density of the city. Expand That is correct. Quote
forksandspoons Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 4:50 AM, Cratter said: Which got me thinking. How many different buildings have the word Acme on them in Grand Forks? Five? Expand 4-6 new businesses (and/or existing ones expanding). 4-6 new businesses in Grand Forks? What are they? Thanks! Quote
Cratter Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 3:00 PM, forksandspoons said: 4-6 new businesses (and/or existing ones expanding). 4-6 new businesses in Grand Forks? What are they? Thanks! Expand Not all have store fronts or actually physically expand. Off the top of my head currently under construction are a new church, ironhide equipment, simplot expansion, new plant by CHS on 42nd, New strip mall on South Washington. Im sure theres more than that this year in GF. Lots of industrial businesses that aren't on main thoroughfares or get articles in the newspaper. 2 Quote
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 Not to beat a dead horse on the Alerus Center, but I just read today that it lost 3.7 Million last year? I thought things had turned around with it when Spectra took over? As I dug into it, nearly all publicly owned event centers lose money...with of course the exception of the mighty Fargo Dome that bleeds money. Quote
UND1983 Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 9:23 PM, OgieOgilthorpe said: Not to beat a dead horse on the Alerus Center, but I just read today that it lost 3.7 Million last year? I thought things had turned around with it when Spectra took over? As I dug into it, nearly all publicly owned event centers lose money...with of course the exception of the mighty Fargo Dome that bleeds money. Expand They all don't talk about the sale tax portion or depreciation portion. Quote
Cratter Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 Here's some more new or expanding businesses: Quote
Cratter Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 9:23 PM, OgieOgilthorpe said: Not to beat a dead horse on the Alerus Center, but I just read today that it lost 3.7 Million last year? I thought things had turned around with it when Spectra took over? As I dug into it, nearly all publicly owned event centers lose money...with of course the exception of the mighty Fargo Dome that bleeds money. Expand It's like saying the roads in Grand Forks lost $6.2 million last year. Quote
MrEdway Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 9:23 PM, OgieOgilthorpe said: Not to beat a dead horse on the Alerus Center, but I just read today that it lost 3.7 Million last year? I thought things had turned around with it when Spectra took over? As I dug into it, nearly all publicly owned event centers lose money...with of course the exception of the mighty Fargo Dome that bleeds money. Expand That works out to over $10,000 daily. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:13 PM, MrEdway said: That works out to over $10,000 daily. Expand Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 10:20 PM, Cratter said: Here's some more new or expanding businesses: Expand Here’s a listing of commercial building permits either done, approved, or applied for. https://www.gfgis.com/developmentprojects/ Dakota Lithium is building a factory on N 39th north of Gateway, like was suggested last year. https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4514811-battery-maker-plans-factory-grand-forks Converting sugar beet and other organic waste to ethanol will be located nearby with the Red River Refinery. 1 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 Almost a half a year old, but here’s where another outlet picked up Mayor Brown’s boast. https://www.constructiondive.com/news/north-dakota-city-poised-for-billion-dollar-boom/548573/ Quote
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Having a mayor for that long of a period seems risky. With the current state of the Grand Forks economy compared to other local sister cities, I think it's time for him to go. Grand Forks needs some new blood with some fresh ideas. Time to mix it up a little. 4 Quote
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 10:04 PM, Cratter said: Not all have store fronts or actually physically expand. Off the top of my head currently under construction are a new church, ironhide equipment, simplot expansion, new plant by CHS on 42nd, New strip mall on South Washington. Im sure theres more than that this year in GF. Lots of industrial businesses that aren't on main thoroughfares or get articles in the newspaper. Expand Everything you listed is great for the business infrastructure of Grand Forks, but nearly every example provides no new jobs. Ironhide is getting a new facility that's actually in a much less convenient location but gives them the much needed space they require (no new job creation). Simplot expansion is just a larger 100% mechanically crane operated freezer to eliminate the costs of sending frozen product across town to Hennison CS, which will now probably put Hennison out of business and will actually probably cause people to lose their jobs. Is the new CHS plant a completely new business in the area, or is it just an upgraded building? I hope it is a new business in the area because that would actually create some new jobs...if it's just an upgrade then I'm assuming employee numbers will stay flat. The tiny strip mall way way south on South Washington? I suppose that could add a few new businesses and in turn some new jobs, but with the other strip mall on the East side of Washinton where the Crary building already struggling, I'm wondering what the thought process was behind that? Bully Brew shut down, Snap fitness is probably hanging by a thread, I've heard Helix and that Jewelry store are both also on their last legs, and probably the only other shop in that mall is the powerplate meals which I've also heard isn't doing so hot. Judging by the failure of that strip mall, I'm assuming this new smaller strip mall will just be a new HQ for some small insurance agencies and businesses similar to that. It is great to hear about that new facility moving in on N 39th street though, because that should be a larger facility, and is brand new to the area so it should be creating some good jobs. Anyone have any idea about how many jobs it could create? With the amazing automation engineering advances we're seeing, the Grand Forks economy is going to change from a slow downward lean to a nose dive if they continue to lean on Industrial businesses to drive their economy. There really needs to be some major tax intensives offered out for newer or expanding tech companies, energy companies and I hate to say it but maybe even cannabis companies looking to put down some roots or relocate. GF should be seeking these businesses out, because naturally none of them are even going to be considering cities in ND to HQ in, and if they do we all know it will be Fargo or Bismarck over GF. Quote
Cratter Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 8:43 PM, OgieOgilthorpe said: Everything you listed is great for the business infrastructure of Grand Forks, but nearly every example provides no new jobs. Simplot expansion is just a larger 100% mechanically crane operated freezer Expand The biorefinery I listed will add 25 jobs. Quote The plant should create 100 to 200 jobs for construction and about 25 permanent technical jobs, said Jacek Chmielewski, managing member for BioMass Solutions. Expand Simplot freezer will add 30. Quote The freezer would triple the capacity of vegetables that Simplot can currently handle. It would employ an additional 30 people and provide an additional estimated $1.158 million in payroll. Expand People investing money in commercial property's like strip malls on S Washington (and the three new commercial shop buildings being built next to Hobby Lobby) probably have a better grip on the local economy than armchair ones. The 500 people that Grand Forks adds every year are working somewhere. (Obviously not all are "working age".) New hugos. New eye surgery facility. I mean I could go on and on but whats the point? Quote
Cratter Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 Drove out to the airbase today. I noticed just outside the gate they are building a big new commercial building. Add that to the other shop space that was just completed this spring across from Cenex. Two new buildings in an area that hasn't seen any new construction in decades. Wonder if it's cause of the new UAV park? Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/27/2019 at 2:39 AM, Cratter said: Drove out to the airbase today. I noticed they are building a big new commercial building. Add that to the other shops space that was just completed this spring across from Cenex. Two new buildings in an area that hasn't seen any new construction in decades. Wonder if it's cause of the new UAV park? Expand There were announcements in the Herald last year that two defense contractors were building their new facilities to take advantage of the UAV Park. Here’s a story on General Atomics expansion announcement. http://knoxradio.com/news/local/grand-sky-expansion http://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-expands-flight-test-and-training-center-in-north-dakota Northrop Grumman also listed expansion plans back in 2017. Quote
Cratter Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/27/2019 at 2:47 AM, SiouxVolley said: There were announcements in the Herald last year that two defense contractors were building their new facilities to take advantage of the UAV Park. Here’s a story on General Atomics expansion announcement. http://knoxradio.com/news/local/grand-sky-expansion http://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-expands-flight-test-and-training-center-in-north-dakota Northrop Grumman also listed expansion plans back in 2017. Expand From your link: Quote He says the current staff will also grow from around 30 to 50 by next year. Expand There's 20 more jobs from one company in one year. Quote
forksandspoons Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 On 7/29/2019 at 7:43 PM, UNDBIZ said: Expand In the next 2-3 years, downtown will have at least 225 more apartments and condos between this, Lyons Garage, Arbor Park and 4th and DeMers developments. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/27/2019 at 11:45 AM, Cratter said: From your link: There's 20 more jobs from one company in one year. Expand This article says that the UAV industry in Grand Forks expanded from 120 or so jobs in 2016 to more than 430 in 2018. https://www.westfargopioneer.com/business/4487413-north-dakota-unmanned-aircraft-industry-takes Thought the employment was projected to grow to more than a 1000 jobs by 2020. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 9:26 PM, SiouxVolley said: This article says that the UAV industry in Grand Forks expanded from 120 or so jobs in 2016 to more than 430 in 2018. https://www.westfargopioneer.com/business/4487413-north-dakota-unmanned-aircraft-industry-takes Thought the employment was projected to grow to more than a 1000 jobs by 2020. Expand Awesome for GF. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 An article on merging the UAV and regular flight systems in ND and the elsewhere. Grand Sky should be one of the keys. https://www.prairiebusinessmagazine.com/business/technology/4643234-northern-plains-unmanned-aircraft-systems-test-site-helping-unleash-uas Quote
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