AZSIOUX Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Why do you keep saying they played only one game, they played Friday and Sunday, I don't know how your math skills are, but mine say that is two games? First off the game Friday doesn't count it's a exh and they won the game Sunday. No team will drop when winning the only game that counts for most cases. If UND sweeps they move up or stay put. These polls don't means thing anyhow.the Pairwise rankings mean everything and those will at out after the new year when things start shaping up. Meaningless right now and both UND and UM have frozen 4 talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Why do you keep saying they played only one game, they played Friday and Sunday, I don't know how your math skills are, but mine say that is two games? One was an exhibition. They could have lost 200-0, and maybe then the poll would have been different. Exhibition games aren't taken into consideration. Aka.....they played one game (that counted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The Sioux moved on there exhibition games, either way it is still a game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariucci Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The Sioux moved on there exhibition games, either way it is still a game! After reading my post I realize I sounded like a smart a**, sorry about that. I just assumed you were aware Friday's game didn't count towards anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 After reading my post I realize I sounded like a smart a**, sorry about that. I just assumed you were aware Friday's game didn't count towards anything. Kudos for that post, Mariucci. Not many of us are good at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 The Sioux moved on there exhibition games, either way it is still a game! Yes it is a game but the exh games dont count and never will count when determining rankings. UND started the regular season later this year and others started a week ahead and a few teams 2 weeks prior. UND played USA u18 while most of the country had pmayed a regular season game or two so it's possible to move a bit with other teams surrounding UND winning or losing. Anyhow the only poll that matters at all in college hockey are the Pairwise rankings which determine the NCAA tourney seedlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Yes it is a game but the exh games dont count and never will count when determining rankings. UND started the regular season later this year and others started a week ahead and a few teams 2 weeks prior. UND played USA u18 while most of the country had pmayed a regular season game or two so it's possible to move a bit with other teams surrounding UND winning or losing. Anyhow the only poll that matters at all in college hockey are the Pairwise rankings which determine the NCAA tourney seedlings. Ah, got it, thanks. I started my question by stating that I know they aren't important, but I just wanted to know how and why, now I do. Thanks again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Ah, got it, thanks. I started my question by stating that I know they aren't important, but I just wanted to know how and why, now I do. Thanks again.... No problem at all! It can be little confusing because college hockey will throw in mid season Exh games which is odd because no other sport does that! Go Sioux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissSioux85 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 According to Don Lucia, UND and Minnesota won't play a regular season series for at least four years once the teams move to new conferences. He says it's due to a commitment to all the in state schools, but didn't Minnesota make non-conference scheduling agreements with the Boston schools, Notre Dame, CC and DU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 According to Don Lucia, UND and Minnesota won't play a regular season series for at least four years once the teams move to new conferences. He says it's due to a commitment to all the in state schools, but didn't Minnesota make non-conference scheduling agreements with the Boston schools, Notre Dame, CC and DU? Yup. I heard first that it was because of the nickname thing, but I didn't buy that. I stand by my comment about it being an avoidance tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 they are scared of us they like the weak comptitiong (see canceled games vs UNC) to scehdule NMSU there program is laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Weren't you guys ever scared of that one bigger stronger person(team)? So are they! GO SIOUX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Can't really fault him. Two fewer loses might be the margin he needs to keep his job after they disappoint again this year. Seriously though, it's a shame. It's one of the best rivalries in hockey between two quality programs. I'll miss those games and the trash talk that goes along with them. Look around--who you gonna hate like them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Can't really fault him. Two fewer loses might be the margin he needs to keep his job after they disappoint again this year. Seriously though, it's a shame. It's one of the best rivalries in hockey between two quality programs. I'll miss those games and the trash talk that goes along with them. Look around--who you gonna hate like them? DUmbver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattC Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 DUmbver. X2. Over the past few years (excluding last year), I feel like Denver was more of our #1 rival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNState0fHockey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 they are scared of us they like the weak comptitiong (see canceled games vs UNC) to scehdule NMSU there program is laughable Yeah, the Gophers are afraid of North Dakota, so they schedule Boston College instead. Makes perfect sense. Truth is, in-state rivalries come first, and leave few road non-conference games available. Minnesota couldn't schedule with North Dakota while the nickname was active, and by the time it was dropped it already had scheduling arrangements. The Gophers will likely schedule series with North Dakota again once the current NC scheduling agreements expire. But there will be gaps where these teams don't play because both schools want 1-for-1 agreements and both have limited NC road series available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Yeah, the Gophers are afraid of North Dakota, so they schedule Boston College instead. Makes perfect sense. Truth is, in-state rivalries come first, and leave few road non-conference games available. Minnesota couldn't schedule with North Dakota while the nickname was active, and by the time it was dropped it already had scheduling arrangements. The Gophers will likely schedule series with North Dakota again once the current NC scheduling agreements expire. But there will be gaps where these teams don't play because both schools want 1-for-1 agreements and both have limited NC road series available. Sorry, but that's not how this went down. That might be what UM is spewing, and that's fine if you want to buy into that, but there is two sides here. And the fact is that UM could have scheduled UND if they wanted to. But they don't. They did EVERYTHING they could to avoid it. I'm sorry, but one can only come to certain conclusions. In-state rivalries should be a priority. But to suggest preserving one of the better rivalries in college hockey is not a priority is a bit off base. And if it's not, well that must be that infamous U of M education I've heard so much about. It's disappointing for the fans, and it's disappointing for the players. I bet every kid that committed to one of these programs is disappointed they won't get the chance to play in a rivalry game like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNState0fHockey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sorry, but that's not how this went down. That might be what UM is spewing, and that's fine if you want to buy into that, but there is two sides here. And the fact is that UM could have scheduled UND if they wanted to. But they don't. They did EVERYTHING they could to avoid it. I'm sorry, but one can only come to certain conclusions. In-state rivalries should be a priority. But to suggest preserving one of the better rivalries in college hockey is not a priority is a bit off base. And if it's not, well that must be that infamous U of M education I've heard so much about. It's disappointing for the fans, and it's disappointing for the players. I bet every kid that committed to one of these programs is disappointed they won't get the chance to play in a rivalry game like that. It's exactly how things went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 It's exactly how things went down. I heard otherwise. I'm sure that's how it went down from the U's standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNState0fHockey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I heard otherwise. I'm sure that's how it went down from the U's standpoint. What? You heard the Gophers are "afraid" to schedule UND? Do you realize how seriously ridiculous and jaded that sounds? Especially considering they have BC on their upcoming schedule instead. What I outlined is exactly what went down. Spin whatever other tales you like, but they won't be factual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 What? You heard the Gophers are "afraid" to schedule UND? Do you realize how seriously ridiculous and jaded that sounds? Especially considering they have BC on their upcoming schedule instead. What I outlined is exactly what went down. Spin whatever other tales you like, but they won't be factual. No, I didn't say "afraid". That is just the natural conclusion a lot of people will reach here when you kill a rivalry to schedule non-conference game after non-conference game with everyone under the sun. The U could have scheduled UND if they wanted to. They just chose differently. I just don't buy all of the reasoning you provided. I'm sure it's part of it, but there's a lot of other stuff out there too. Personally, I don't know why a big rivalry isn't a scheduling priority, but that's fine, it's not my decision. And I've been aware this was going to be the case for a very long time. So this news wasn't a shock to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNState0fHockey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 No, I didn't say "afraid". That is just the natural conclusion a lot of people will reach here when you kill a rivalry to schedule non-conference game after non-conference game with everyone under the sun. The U could have scheduled UND if they wanted to. They just chose differently. I just don't buy all of the reasoning you provided. I'm sure it's part of it, but there's a lot of other stuff out there too. Personally, I don't know why a big rivalry isn't a scheduling priority, but that's fine, it's not my decision. And I've been aware this was going to be the case for a very long time. So this news wasn't a shock to me. Gophers didn't even want to leave the WCHA. Read this piece on how AD Joel Maturi described his and UMN's feelings on matter: http://mankatofreepresshockey.blogspot.com/2012/06/maturi-hoped-penn-state-would-join-ccha.html Gophers will play UND again. They just don't have room for next 4 years because of other NC commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Gophers dont want to get pounded 2 games in a row. So they schedule bc who is known to play a european type The excuses are getting really old from the lucia camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Arena Man Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 At $55 a ticket for the upcoming goofer series at the John in January , It sure should help the athletic department to raise extra money so they can cancel other NC football games with the extra $'s and schedule creampuffs on their football schedule. We all know that the John will be filled with North Dakota FIGHTING SIOUX fans in January. Why would the U of M be so stupid not to schedule the SIOUX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I wonder what the chances are of ticket prices going down at various schools because of realignment. I can take a glass half-full approach... LOL. Yeah, I'm probably reaching there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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