Conference Realignments - Take 2

[AJS]

Last night's updates are sending this in a different direction. 

Reports are that although Notre Dame is pulling for them to be admitted, and there are still discussions ongoing, Cal and Stanford are longshots to be admitted into the ACC.

Which is the most likely scenario?

• Pac-4 join the MWC (or some sort of conference merger)
• Pac-4 join the AAC
•  Pac-4 try to rebuild the conference slowly*

That last one is what I'm worried about. Pick the top 2 or 4 from the AAC short-term. Then wait it out for the Top of the MWC. 

[AJS]

I'm just so confused from the ACC perspective. It seems incredibly short-sided. Travel would be awful for Stanford / Cal. For the ACC schools, you're talking ONE West Coast Road trip per sport per year. It's like they didn't just see what happened to the PAC. 

[The Sicatoka]

The hot take I'm hearing is SMU is getting a serious look by the ACC. It makes more sense than SMU to PACx. ACC gets DFW; SMU gets P conference. And if ACC gets plucked later they're already ready.

Supposedly SMU has said they'd forego a share for five years! They have donors lined up. SMU must've saved all their "NIL money" since the Eric Dickerson and Craig James era. 

SMU: ... at the forefront of "NIL" since 1982 .... 

[The Sicatoka]

Duke, UNC, UVa, plus CaliStan and "Our Lady of South Bend" and you have a near Ivy level grouping. 

[iramurphy]

Chip Kelly suggests all 64 power 5 schools go independent and play for a championship and 64 sub power 5 schools go independent and play for their championship. Seems like the rest can do as they are doing. 
Interesting concept. It would affect traditional conference rivalries but that is already being done as teams realign to different conferences. 

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Supposedly SMU has said they'd forego a share for five years! They have donors lined up. SMU must've saved all their "NIL money" since the Eric Dickerson and Craig James era. 

SMU: ... at the forefront of "NIL" since 1982 .... 

Would have thought Eric could have ditched the Rec Specs for contacts while at SMU

[fightingsioux4life]

41 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Chip Kelly suggests all 64 power 5 schools go independent and play for a championship and 64 sub power 5 schools go independent and play for their championship. Seems like the rest can do as they are doing. 
Interesting concept. It would affect traditional conference rivalries but that is already being done as teams realign to different conferences. 

I've been predicting this for several years now. The P5 and G5 schools are classified as FBS, but they have little else in common.

[The Sicatoka]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

Would have thought Eric could have ditched the Rec Specs for contacts while at SMU

He claims he wore them because guys would try to gouge his eyes in piles. 

[Sioux>Bison]

On 8/7/2023 at 2:27 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

you kinda spoke out both sides of your mouth tho by saying Sik is right on SDSU but not right on NDSU....his numbers don't lie. one could say with title 9 NDAC might be last in pecking order for FBS of the dak4

i agree about idaho...they were FBS for years until.........conference realighntment

NDSU has the funding opportunities and the donors to pay for FBS. Of all the Dakota schools they have much more support to make the move. I agree NDSU would have to add a women’s sport but that isn’t stopping them.

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

NDSU has the funding opportunities and the donors to pay for FBS. Of all the Dakota schools they have much more support to make the move. I agree NDSU would have to add a women’s sport but that isn’t stopping them.

doesn't und have the highest budget of the dak4?

[fightingsioux4life]

6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

doesn't und have the highest budget of the dak4?

What none of the Dakota 4 have is a conference willing to accept them. Either they all work together and form their own FBS conference or it won't happen.

[AJS]

 

[zonadub]

A really random question…

if the B1G would add only Stanford, would that make the B1G more appealing to Notre Dame? The B1G would then have most of Notre Dame’s long-time rivals except Navy.

[tnt]

I find it ironic that the NCAA and all of the member institutions that are supposedly so in tune with mental health and the wellness of the student athlete, have no problem making it that much more difficult for the student athlete with more travel and therefore more strain on a person's sleep and health, all in the name of the almighty buck.   Of course hypocrisy and the NCAA go hand in hand.   Where will this all end?

[Sioux>Bison]

21 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

doesn't und have the highest budget of the dak4?

Yeah but NDSU can afford to fund a higher FBS budget. UND is about maxed out. We don’t have a non profit paying some of the bills. Take away hockey spending and our budgets are similar to except we rely on student fees and state funding more

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Yeah but NDSU can afford to fund a higher FBS budget. UND is about maxed out. We don’t have a non profit paying some of the bills. Take away hockey spending and our budgets are similar to except we rely on student fees and state funding more

Yet NDSU was the one who needed a state bailout for athletics.

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Yeah but NDSU can afford to fund a higher FBS budget. UND is about maxed out. We don’t have a non profit paying some of the bills. Take away hockey spending and our budgets are similar to except we rely on student fees and state funding more

Maxed out is NDSU’s football and team makers prices. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

if they can raise unlimited funds please explain that indoor practice facility......

[fightingsioux4life]

29 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if they can raise unlimited funds please explain that indoor practice facility......

Bison rubes honestly believe they are a hot commodity in collegiate sports and that conferences are lining up at their door. News Flash: Neither one of those things are true.

[SIOUXFAN97]

has fenton found us some soccer teams?

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

i do think that chip kelly might be on to something about football not needing the g5 or heck even conferences?  found this on the x...i think it would be awesome...

 

[Sioux>Bison]

On 8/11/2023 at 8:09 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

if they can raise unlimited funds please explain that indoor practice facility......

The one that cost almost double of Washington States indoor practice facility?

[Sioux>Bison]

On 8/11/2023 at 7:35 PM, UND1983 said:

Maxed out is NDSU’s football and team makers prices. 

Don’t disagree, who would pay that much to see some no name teams in the Fargo dome. Hard without UND and SDSU at home whether they want to admit it or not

[Sioux>Bison]

On 8/11/2023 at 7:11 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Yet NDSU was the one who needed a state bailout for athletics.

Well technically they didn’t need it for athletics. They probably could have tried to cut athletics to pay for it …..

[AJS]

On 8/10/2023 at 6:05 AM, AJS said:

 

•  Pac-4 try to rebuild the conference slowly*

That last one is what I'm worried about. Pick the top 2 or 4 from the AAC short-term. Then wait it out for the Top of the MWC. 

Is this the direction it appears they are heading down? Where I'm at a loss for this, does anyone outside of the Pac-4, MW, AAC think they could put together any combination of teams and it would be a "Power" conference?