SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, bison73 said: I cant speak specifically but you are not fully funded. ndac speak for ya right there.... 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 wouldn't uconn be a candidate for the ACC tho...huge endowment and a two great bball programs which is more than syracuse can say. Quote
bison73 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: ndac speak for ya right there.... You not being fully funded isnt exactly new news. Geez. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, bison73 said: You not being fully funded isnt exactly new news. Geez. once again which programs and site a source? Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: wouldn't uconn be a candidate for the ACC tho...huge endowment and a two great bball programs which is more than syracuse can say. I think BC might have a small problem with them. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SWSiouxMN said: I think BC might have a small problem with them. maybe...but bc being new to the conf you would think that more powerful bball schools like unc and duke would love to have the huskies come to town every year. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: maybe...but bc being new to the conf you would think that more powerful bball schools like unc and duke would love to have the huskies come to town every year. https://www.nhregister.com/uconn/article/Calhoun-glad-to-see-UConn-BC-rivalry-renewed-11393263.php Guess not according to this article Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Most conferences with cable sports contracts are moving to 20 conference games per team. Creighton is not in any danger, as they fill Century Link. The BE should replace DePaul with Loyola but that wont happen either. ...replace DePaul? What on earth lmaooooooo. Replace the largest Catholic school in the country with Loyola because....why exactly? Quote
bison73 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: once again which programs and site a source? I had a link from an article but cant find it. The financials UND provided dont indicate which sports are under funded. But here is one of you own stating so.--- geaux_sioux Members 14,415 posts Report post Posted June 29, 2018 More than doubling scholarship dollars since 2009 is huge. We need all sports fully funded. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, bison73 said: I had a link from an article but cant find it. The financials UND provided dont indicate which sports are under funded. But here is one of you own stating so.--- geaux_sioux Members 14,415 posts Report post Posted June 29, 2018 More than doubling scholarship dollars since 2009 is huge. We need all sports fully funded. under funded or fully funded....wow. i would say that ndac bball is under funded compared to usd or would ndac be fully funded compared to omaha? 1 Quote
bison73 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: under funded or fully funded....wow. i would say that ndac bball is under funded compared to usd or would ndac be fully funded compared to omaha? What does that have to do with UND being underfunded??? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, bison73 said: What does that have to do with UND being underfunded??? i thought u said we weren't fully funded...is ndac fully funded or underfunded? your are kinda confusing Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said: ...replace DePaul? What on earth lmaooooooo. Replace the largest Catholic school in the country with Loyola because....why exactly? I dont know why DePaul, with that basketball hotbed that is Chicago, cannot do any better than the doldrums of the Big East (although they finally had a decent year last year) Quote
SiouxVolley Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: wouldn't uconn be a candidate for the ACC tho...huge endowment and a two great bball programs which is more than syracuse can say. They lost the beauty pageant with Louisville, because UConn’s football is poor and Louisville has been on the rise. So Louisville got the supposedly last ACC slot. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said: I dont know why DePaul, with that basketball hotbed that is Chicago, cannot do any better than the doldrums of the Big East (although they finally had a decent year last year) DePaul supposedly has the most mismanaged athletic department in DI. It’s more about staffing nepotism (friends and family) than winning. There has been a scathing article or two on this in the past. Quote
bison73 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i thought u said we weren't fully funded...is ndac fully funded or underfunded? your are kinda confusing You arent. Comprehension is hard for you I see. Should I speak slower? Quote
SiouxVolley Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 An article on why Arizona State was reluctant to leave the then WAC for the PAC 8. Arizona wanted to go, but Ariz St lacked top notch academics and research and Kush didn’t want to move. https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2019/06/22/pac-8-expansion-asu-has-ua-thank-push-move-wac-pac/3535235002/ The much higher money with the P5 changes things dramatically now. Quote
Hammersmith Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i thought u said we weren't fully funded...is ndac fully funded or underfunded? your are kinda confusing Not sure if you don't understand or are being purposefully dense, but fully funded vs. not fully funded is about scholarships. A fully funded program is one that gives out the maximum number of scholarships allowed by the governing body(NCAA DI in our case). Or at least a program that allocates enough money to award all scholarships allowed(sometimes football or WBB might sit on a scholarship or two for recruiting reasons). NDSU has been fully funded across the board for a few years now. I believe men's golf or baseball was the last program to reach that mark. My understanding is that all the women's programs were fully funded from the first day of DI because of Title IX reasons. As for UND, it's been in the news repeatedly over the years that many of your programs are not fully funded. The most detailed and recent info I could find in a few minutes came from about 27 months ago. Things have improved(the Summit League required it), but I believe many programs are still not at 100% funding. I'll look a bit more to see if I can find info from last season. Scholarship funding levels as of the end of 2016-17 season: 100% MIH FB MBB WBB 85-100% VB (closer to 100% than 85%) WSoc 70% (these 3 were required to reach at least 85% by the fall of 2018) WG SB WT&F <70% MG MT&F MT WT https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4242553-und-cuts-womens-hockey-mens-and-womens-swimming Quote
southpaw Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Hammersmith said: 100% MIH FB MBB WBB 85-100% VB (closer to 100% than 85%) WSoc 70% (these 3 were required to reach at least 85% by the fall of 2018) WG SB WT&F <70% MG MT&F MT WT https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4242553-und-cuts-womens-hockey-mens-and-womens-swimming As of July 1, 2018 WT&F is at 100%. MT is at 83% WT is 94%. This took less than 30 seconds to find. "Men's tennis went from no scholarships in 2017 to a scheduled 3.75 for 2019. Women's tennis went from roughly 4.5 in 2017 to 7.5 in 2019, while women's track and field/cross country went from a little more than 14 in 2017 to 18 in 2019." https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4438530-year-after-cutting-sports-und-athletics-adjusting-slimmer-budget 1 Quote
Hammersmith Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Here we go. These are most of the numbers from last year(2018-2019 season / FY2019). Significant improvement, but several sports still not fully funded. 100% MIH FB MBB WBB WT&F VB 85+% WSoc WG SB WT - 94% <85% MT - 83% MT&F - ? MG - 33% https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4438530-year-after-cutting-sports-und-athletics-adjusting-slimmer-budget Quote
Hammersmith Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, southpaw said: As of July 1, 2018 WT&F is at 100%. MT is at 83% WT is 94%. This took less than 30 seconds to find. "Men's tennis went from no scholarships in 2017 to a scheduled 3.75 for 2019. Women's tennis went from roughly 4.5 in 2017 to 7.5 in 2019, while women's track and field/cross country went from a little more than 14 in 2017 to 18 in 2019." https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4438530-year-after-cutting-sports-und-athletics-adjusting-slimmer-budget I was already typing out an update when you posted that. 1 Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 After the Robbins’ comments, is it safe to say Ndsu athletic programs are fully ‘roided? 1 2 Quote
Popular Post jdub27 Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Hammersmith said: Here we go. These are most of the numbers from last year(2018-2019 season / FY2019). Significant improvement, but several sports still not fully funded. 100% MIH FB MBB WBB WT&F VB 85+% WSoc WG SB WT - 94% <85% MT - 83% MT&F - ? MG - 33% https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4438530-year-after-cutting-sports-und-athletics-adjusting-slimmer-budget Here is why using a single year as a data point to show whether a sport is "fully funded" or not isn't all that accurate as just because it is available, doesn't mean a coach is going to use it (which you alluded to in previous comment). Looking at NDSU, using your methodology, it would show that MBB (90%, 12.6 out of 14) and MG (81%, 3.6 out of 4.5) along with WBB (84%, 12.6 out of 14), VB (78%, 9.4 out of 12) and WS (92%, 12.8 out of 14) weren't "fully funded" in 2017-18. In fact NDSU reported only giving out 91.4% of maximum available scholarships to females. Now I'm not saying those sports aren't fully funded, but just pointing out the hole in how you presented UND's numbers. NDSU left somewhere around 10.4 scholarships on the table for 2017-18. Total scholarships given out in 2017-18 for NDSU was $4.7 million scholarships with $2.9 million to males and $1.8 million to females. The only sports that wouldn't be considered "fully funded" at UND right now (90%+ of possible scholarships given out) are MGolf (32.4%, 1.5 out of 4.5) and MTrack (63%, 7.8 out of 12.6) and technically MT (84%, 3.8 scholarships out of 4.5 possible) because its less than 90%, but they are 3/4's of a scholarships from being at 100%. All UND women's sports gave out over 90% of available scholarships. Also fair to note that UND is still paying some scholarships for athletes who had their sports cut, funds that will be able to be diverted once those obligations are completed. Given that and considering UND is around 8-9 scholarships from being "fully funded" out of around 200 maximum available scholarships, I think the talking point that UND isn't funding its sports is a pretty weak argument and nothing but an old talking point (and clearly the original poster who brought it up is absolutely clueless in the details, but I'm sure he heard it in the tailgate lot or something so it must have been true). For comparison purposes, overall UND paid out $5.2 million in scholarship for the 2017-18 school year, with $2.9 million to males and $2.3 million to females with the total being $559K more than NDSU. -source for these numbers are the 2017-18 NCAA financial reports, prepared and submitted by each school 1 5 Quote
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, jdub27 said: NDSU paid out $4.7 million scholarships, or $559K less than UND did. Breakdown was $2.9 million to males and $1.8 million to females. 1 4 Quote
jdub27 Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 I mean, the ratio of scholarships makes sense when your see their participation rate is 65.4% to 34.6%. Pretty much in line with the student enrollment of 55.3% to 44.7%, right? 3 Quote
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