SiouxFan100 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: Looks like St Thomas needs to find another conference: http://m.startribune.com/augsburg-president-believes-consensus-exists-to-remove-st-thomas-from-miac/509752432/ Wow can anyone remember if this has happened before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 14 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said: Wow can anyone remember if this has happened before? Its kind of like when they restricted scholarships in D2 when they went to 36. To get rid of the powerhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted May 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, bison73 said: Its kind of like when they restricted scholarships in D2 when they went to 36. To get rid of the powerhouse. Except not really. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 21 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said: Wow can anyone remember if this has happened before? The MIAC has only lost UMD permanently in 1975, as its the academic powerhouse DIII conference for Minnesota. Minn-Morris could join, but apparently chooses not to, staying with the low rated Upper Midwest Conference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Conference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Midwest_Athletic_Conference Still believe that St Thomas wants out, and one President granted their wish in writing. St Thomas is no different than Creighton, Marquette, DePaul etc and could be a future Big East member depending on its athletic performance. The MVC is easily reachable for a private school like it is in a big market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeutralObserver Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 6:51 PM, SiouxVolley said: The MIAC has only lost UMD permanently in 1975, as its the academic powerhouse DIII conference for Minnesota. Minn-Morris could join, but apparently chooses not to, staying with the low rated Upper Midwest Conference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Conference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Midwest_Athletic_Conference Still believe that St Thomas wants out, and one President granted their wish in writing. St Thomas is no different than Creighton, Marquette, DePaul etc and could be a future Big East member depending on its athletic performance. The MVC is easily reachable for a private school like it is in a big market. Morris is a public school, though. Is the MIAC willing to let in a public school when they are all private now? Some of those conferences get picky when it comes to public/private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 hours ago, NeutralObserver said: Morris is a public school, though. Is the MIAC willing to let in a public school when they are all private now? Some of those conferences get picky when it comes to public/private. The MIAC has shown that they would take in a UM branch like Duluth, because it’s higher academics (PhD’s and programs) than Minn St schools. The small schools in the MIAC are located in the Cities, Moorhead, Winona, or tiny towns within a half hour of the Cities. UM-Morris is rather highly thought of by academic types, but it is small in a tiny town. They probably can’t afford higher athletic spending, so they don’t pursue it. SW Minn St and Winona St, both not having DI hockey, among others would be rejected by the MIAC. Even Minn-Crookston would probably be rejected, as it considered more a farm extension than a campus. Minn-Waseca was previously closed, even though it was much more like Crookston than Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 More details on Bellarmine’s ambitions for DI. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentuckiana/2019/05/15/bellarmine-president-susan-donovan-plans-to-raise-university-profile-division-i-push/3571726002/ It would only be the second DI school in the Louisville metro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 http://www.startribune.com/st-thomas-fate-in-miac-could-be-announced-as-soon-as-wednesday/510249352/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 My wife is a Tommy grad and just got the email announcement, they just got kicked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: My wife is a Tommy grad and just got the email announcement, they just got kicked out. What a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 And because I believe in "links or it didn't happen" LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: My wife is a Tommy grad and just got the email announcement, they just got kicked out. I guess, winning isn't always the best! "involuntarily removed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I am excited for the Tommies. They need to leave that B.S. D3 conference behind and move up to the D2 NSIC or even go all the way to D1 and join the Summit. The hockey program needs to go D1 as well and join the WCHA. We need more D1 programs in hockey, St. Thomas would be a great addition given their location and resources ($429 million endowment). They could pull off a full move to D1, and should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: I am excited for the Tommies. They need to leave that B.S. D3 conference behind and move up to the D2 NSIC or even go all the way to D1 and join the Summit. The hockey program needs to go D1 as well and join the WCHA. We need more D1 programs in hockey, St. Thomas would be a great addition given their location and resources ($429 million endowment). They could pull off a full move to D1, and should. With all sports, wouldn't they have to spend some time in D2 before moving into D1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I realize I am venturing into SiouxVolley territory here, but I just read some internet speculation that UST might petition he NCAA to transition directly to D1 given the involuntary nature of them getting kicked out of their conference and lack of options available to them, i.e. if they decide to go D1 the NSIC isn't going to be too open to them parking in that conference for a couple years just to pass through. Could the Summit actually be involved as an intermediary in helping UST go straight to D1 and join the conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: With all sports, wouldn't they have to spend some time in D2 before moving into D1? Just answered you there. Albeit, wild speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Yote 53 said: I realize I am venturing into SiouxVolley territory here, but I just read some internet speculation that UST might petition he NCAA to transition directly to D1 given the involuntary nature of them getting kicked out of their conference and lack of options available to them, i.e. if they decide to go D1 the NSIC isn't going to be too open to them parking in that conference for a couple years just to pass through. Could the Summit actually be involved as an intermediary in helping UST go straight to D1 and join the conference? The NCAA wouldn't approve a DII bypass just for UST. UST would be eligible for the NSIC just as Augie is leaving. Coincidence not. Concordia-SP would love UST in the same conference even more than Augie welcomed USF. But DII won't be good enough for UST, so there will be jumping to DI in the minimum time. UST is a DIII school as much as Creighton, Marquette and DePaul are DIII's. They waited way too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yote 53 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Why would the NSIC be okay with being a pass through conference for UST? What other options do they have for a D2 conference? Literally zero. All it would take is for the NSIC to say "no thanks", for the Summit to offer them, and then things could be worked out with the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Yote 53 said: Why would the NSIC be okay with being a pass through conference for UST? What other options do they have for a D2 conference? Literally zero. All it would take is for the NSIC to say "no thanks", for the Summit to offer them, and then things could be worked out with the NCAA. The NSIC would have kick out Crookston or Upper Iowa or Minot St, which they don't wanna do now, to stay even numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: The NSIC would have kick out Crookston or Upper Iowa or Minot St, which they don't wanna do now, to stay even numbered. Crookston is basically D3 so there ya go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 37 minutes ago, northernraider said: Crookston is basically D3 so there ya go Talked to a past coach from Crookston, they are talking about bringing back hockey, maybe starting women's too. They are starting a committee to look at their options next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Yote 53 said: I realize I am venturing into SiouxVolley territory here, but I just read some internet speculation that UST might petition he NCAA to transition directly to D1 given the involuntary nature of them getting kicked out of their conference and lack of options available to them, i.e. if they decide to go D1 the NSIC isn't going to be too open to them parking in that conference for a couple years just to pass through. Could the Summit actually be involved as an intermediary in helping UST go straight to D1 and join the conference? It would be hilarious if UST stole Augastana's spot in the Summit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Talked to a past coach from Crookston, they are talking about bringing back hockey, maybe starting women's too. They are starting a committee to look at their options next month. A future WCHA could include UST, Crookston, Minot St, Mary and even Augie. For many of them, hockey would be their top sport for making revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, nodak651 said: It would be hilarious if UST stole Augastana's spot in the Summit. The NCAA only caves to P5 schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: A future WCHA could include UST, Crookston, Minot St, Mary and even Augie. For many of them, hockey would be their top sport for making revenue. I am sold, you do see the future! He also mentioned there is chatter about both of your sentences less UST. I was just a little ski-dish to mention all that at once, but there it is. + it would take a few years. + there is plenty of talent around the country for more teams. + scheduling would include mostly short trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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