MafiaMan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Alumni, Champions Club members, season ticket holders, faculty, current students, Grand Forks residents. Those groups are the most invested stakeholders to UND. They should be the only ones allowed to vote in deciding a nickname. Anyone have Goehring's email? How about Joe Taxpayer in Fairfield whose kid went to UND and whose tax dollars help pay for the new t-shirt, er, diversity coordinator? Shouldn't he have a say too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingranch Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Private matter? That there is a public office you hold there isn't it sheriff? Quote from Anthony Hopkins in legends of the falls movie. Ergo it's still a public university isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Could the vote be held where the more you are vested in UND the more of a vote you would have. For example, student = 1 vote, alumni = 1 vote, donor = 1 vote, faculty = 1 vote. The more you are, the more votes. You could even tie residency, donation amount, etc. For the masses you could give 1/10th of a vote (or 100th), that way the goofs & bizun fans could have their fun but no actual effect. I love the concept, but I think it would be impossible to pull off fairly for a variety of reasons. It's way too easy to cheat unless you're literally doing some sort of voter ID checkoff, and you also have issues with how voter turnout affects the power of each constituent group. Now, a fun variant would be something like this: you print 100 "golden tickets" for students, 100 for alums, 100 for season ticket holders, and so on. Different groups might get different numbers of tickets according to their "importance" in the decision. You then randomly select people to receive those tickets, and deliver them with pomp and fanfare. Those tickets have a list of the ten finalists, and they get to vote for one. You could actually pull that off, and it would not only be accurate from a statistical standpoint, but it would be great theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEdway Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 If you'll consider ermines, I'm in, but it's not an exciting story. I live on another sports board, and a North Dakota resident posted the story about this. I own a market research firm that does a fair amount of brand research for various organizations and a fair amount of work for universities (maybe 15+% of our client base), so it intrigued me. I've done a couple of projects about names changes for universities, and one of my coworkers did some mascot/logo work for a university, so I've seen some different processes. We were brainstorming mascots and pretty much determined that Ermines would be a great name. So I came here to help plant the seed. I'm not a fan of college sports at all and have no ulterior motive other than to support the UND Ermines, and I'm also interested in watching the process from a professional basis. I'll respond to another post with some observations about that process. I think you should consider a career change. Ermines is quite lame in my book. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 How about Joe Taxpayer in Fairfield whose kid went to UND and whose tax dollars help pay for the new t-shirt, er, diversity coirdinator? Shouldn't he have a say too?One rule, no Ukrainians... lol, make a vote for parents of students, a vote for grandparents too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I love the concept, but I think it would be impossible to pull off fairly for a variety of reasons. It's way too easy to cheat unless you're literally doing some sort of voter ID checkoff, and you also have issues with how voter turnout affects the power of each constituent group.I would think the survey technology available would be able to accomplish this. Now, a fun variant would be something like this: you print 100 "golden tickets" for students, 100 for alums, 100 for season ticket holders, and so on. Different groups might get different numbers of tickets according to their "importance" in the decision. You then randomly select people to receive those tickets, and deliver them with pomp and fanfare. Those tickets have a list of the ten finalists, and they get to vote for one. You could actually pull that off, and it would not only be accurate from a statistical standpoint, but it would be great theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodakhoops Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Looks like the herald sports guys each wrote articles on this. I don't want to rip Schlossman's but his article could've been confused for a hockey only fan letter to the editor. Big picture Brad, people will move on. Tom and Wayne seem to understand that in their articles. take the breezers off before the next nickname article maybe. I've said before I would like to stay no nickname and unofficially be the Sioux but in my heart and brain I know that is not what is best for the school. Go with no nickname and this same hampster wheel keeps going in 3-5 year increments. Change the name and people will move on, some faster than others but eventually all will move on and someday we'll all be gone and a new generation will only know one name. The article says going no nickname will put and end to the in house bickering and arguing and I would actually argue that picking a name will eventually do that. Not Brads most thought out work imho. I liked Millers take on the Roughneck name. Think it could be kind of cool and unique. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The Fighting Sioux is Legendary. So lets go with Legends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The Fighting Sioux is Legendary. So lets go with Legends. You mean its legend, wait for it Dary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 If you'll consider ermines, I'm in, but it's not an exciting story.... OK, cute little weasel, but why, if UND goes with a rodent, not just go back to Flickertails? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 You mean its legend, wait for it Dary! Would I get to be the mascot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 OK, cute little weasel, but why, if UND goes with a rodent, not just go back to Flickertails? Bloody hell, just go with Golden Gophers, sit back, grab the popcorn, and watch Mark Dayton, Minnesota, and Gopher Puck Live implode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Bloody hell, just go with Golden Gophers, sit back, grab the popcorn, and watch Mark Dayton, Minnesota, and Gopher Puck Live implode. I was thinking PLATINUM gophers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I was thinking PLATINUM gophers. As in "Pure Platinum" or "The Platinum Fox" in Columbus, Ohio? I believe a few SSers (Cough Mafia Couch) made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Sounds like 462 out of 500 were chopped tonight. Some survivors The Force Flames Flickertails Fighting Green Badlanders Aviators Green Hawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 My guess for the 3 (or 4) finalists. Green Hawks (See the Herald article from a few months ago) Flickertails Stars (or Force) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I think you should consider a career change. Ermines is quite lame in my book. I'm going to need you to stand over there [pointing toward food buffet] and let the experts handle this. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 OK, cute little weasel, but why, if UND goes with a rodent, not just go back to Flickertails? An ermine isn't a rodent. It's a mustelid. It's essentially a more attractive wolverine in a very expensive coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxstudent Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 There is a Steven Light who has the domain UNDSundogs.com registered. http://www.tucowsdomains.com/whois http://und.edu/provost/light-bio.cfm A Jordan Schuetlze from UND owns UNDSpirit.com http://www.tucowsdomains.com/whois Ha my old UND Prof and my old Student body Rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Sounds like 462 out of 500 were chopped tonight. Some survivors The Force Flames Flickertails Fighting Green Badlanders Aviators Green Hawks What the heck? Who writes a story about 38 finalists without listing them? http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3739452-und-committee-starts-cutting-names-flickertails-badlanders-and-aviators I'm assuming that Ermines is on the list, but I'd like proof. Give me facts, newspaper reporter! Facts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Im guessing we will end up with 80-100 "finalists" and go from there. Im sure they will put out the other 30 eventually (or someone on here will find out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 An ermine isn't a rodent. It's a mustelid. It's essentially a more attractive wolverine in a very expensive coat. Or more like a vERMINE? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ermines would be cool until you see one and realize it will fit in your shoe... along with your foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Sorry GeauxSioux, "Arrows" are considered "Native American Imagery." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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