darell1976 Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Taylor said the earliest they will schedule UND is 2014. Both UND and NDSU have a common open date in 2013. Taylor said they have already scheduled 11 games for that year but that they might schedule 12 games. If they did schedule 12 games in 2013 they wouldn't play UND though. Let's face it. NDSU administration just doesn't want to play UND. Taylor continually makes up excuses why they won't play UND. UND doesn't need the game so it is just fine if NDSU doesn't want to play. Funny according to gobison.com NDSU has 10 games for 2013. Montana St, and 9 MVFC teams (I am guessing 1 of them is a non-conference game??). No FBS team in 2013? Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Gene Taylor was "amazed" at the atmosphere of the UND-NDSU volleyball game last year and expressed that to Faison. Even he didn't expect it to be that big. Maybe......but the atmosphere at the BB game was as stale as could be. UNI is the team generating most of the contempt from Bison fans now days. Quote
FargoBison Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Funny according to gobison.com NDSU has 10 games for 2013. Montana St, and 9 MVFC teams (I am guessing 1 of them is a non-conference game??). No FBS team in 2013? NDSU will play an FBS team in 2013, who it is hasn't been announced yet though. NDSU only plays 8 MVFC conference games so there is also still another FCS game yet to be announced. The game with South Dakota was originally scheduled as a non-conference game, so that schedule still needs to be updated. Taylor and Bohl are probably mulling over whether to schedule 12 games in 2013, they passed on doing so in 2008 because they thought the extra bye would have been more useful. Not sure if their thinking is still the same. Quote
dmksioux Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Maybe......but the atmosphere at the BB game was as stale as could be. UNI is the team generating most of the contempt from Bison fans now days. Did that have anything to do with the results from your teams football game that day? Regardless of atmosphere, a record amount of tickets were sold. Personally I am more excited to see the two schools play in football than I am in Basketball. Quote
homer Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Maybe......but the atmosphere at the BB game was as stale as could be. UNI is the team generating most of the contempt from Bison fans now days. The handful of Bison fans I went to the game with where already well into drinking their sorrows away from that afternoon. Thank EWU for that atmosphere. The 10,000 tickets sold shows that before the football game results there was a lot more interest. Think they would get that for UNI? Quote
UND1983 Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Maybe......but the atmosphere at the BB game was as stale as could be. UNI is the team generating most of the contempt from Bison fans now days. That stale atmosphere can be chalked up to Gene whoring out the game for money. He wanted the gate that only UND could bring so he put it in the Fargodome, which is awful for basketball. Plus, like other posters stated the EWU loss earlier in the day dampened spirits. Quote
ShilohSioux Posted April 29, 2011 Author Posted April 29, 2011 What years can we play 12 games? 2012 Schedule (Completed) 8/30 South Dakota Mines 9/8 Central Arkansas 9/15 at San Diego State 9/22 at Sacramento State* 9/29 Cal Poly* 10/6 at Eastern Washington* 10/13 Northern Arizona* 10/20 Montana* 10/27 at Montana State* 11/3 Southern Utah* 11/10 Open 11/17 at Northern Colorado* 2013 Schedule (10 of 11) -- I think they mean 11 of 11 or 11 of 12 8/29 Valparaiso 9/7 South Dakota State 9/14 Montana (non-league) 9/21 Open 9/28 Montana State* 10/5 at Idaho State* 10/12 Eastern Washington* 10/19 at Portland State* 10/26 Sacramento State* 11/2 at Northern Arizona* 11/9 Northern Colorado* 11/16 at UC Davis* 11/23 Open 2014 Schedule (9 of 11) -- of 12? 8/30 Open 9/6 Robert Morris 9/13 Open 9/20 Open 9/27 at Montana State* 10/4 Montana* 10/11 Portland State* 10/18 Open 10/25 at Southern Utah* 11/1 at Eastern Washington* 11/8 Weber State* 11/15 Northern Arizona* 11/22 at Northern Colorado* 2015 Schedule (9 of 11) 9/5 at Wyoming 9/12 Open 9/19 Open 9/26 UC Davis* 10/3 at Portland State* 10/10 Idaho State* 10/17 at Weber State* 10/24 at Montana* 10/31 Montana State* 11/7 Open 11/14 Northern Colorado* 11/21 at Cal Poly* Home games in bold * Big Sky Games Quote
darell1976 Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 What years can we play 12 games? 2013, 2014, and 2019. Quote
jodcon Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Cry me a f-in river Ash. What would have happened to "your" rival teams if you and Montana went to the WAC? Told ya the Bobcats were a bunch of jackasses, not good guys like the Grizzlies. (Now watch them weasel out of the non-conference game and make me look bad) Quote
jodcon Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 The WAC wouldn't have wanted Montana State only Montana. They would have had to take both or none, the state said they wouldn't allow one to go without the other. Quote
ShilohSioux Posted April 29, 2011 Author Posted April 29, 2011 They would have had to take both or none, the state said they wouldn't allow one to go without the other. Actually, that's not true. The state did not say this nor is there any provision written anywhere. However, along with citing the cost of moving up, Montana expressly stated they wanted to maintain the Cat-Griz rivalry and stay in the same conference as MSU. http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_65c1336c-edbf-11df-9a9d-001cc4c002e0.html. Maintaining the rivalry with Montana State University is "essential to the state's cultural fabric," Engstrom said during a news conference in Main Hall on a day when campus was quiet - as classes were canceled in observance of Veterans Day. WAC rules prevent its members from playing Football Championship Subdivision schools. The WAC made an exception for UM, indicating that it could allow Montana's long-standing cross-state rivalry with MSU to continue even if the schools played in separate conferences. Even so, Engstrom said, if MSU and UM weren't competing for the same conference championship, that rivalry wouldn't "exist in the same way." "We're proud of that great rivalry," he said. "It's part of who we are." http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/article_4316d652-ee2b-11df-ba32-001cc4c002e0.html In the end Montana's relationship with Montana State, the Big Sky's own expansion and costs kept the Griz rooted in the conference it helped form in 1963. Quote
jodcon Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Actually, that's not true. The state did not say this nor is there any provision written anywhere. However, along with citing the cost of moving up, Montana expressly stated they wanted to maintain the Cat-Griz rivalry and stay in the same conference as MSU. http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_65c1336c-edbf-11df-9a9d-001cc4c002e0.html. Maintaining the rivalry with Montana State University is "essential to the state's cultural fabric," Engstrom said during a news conference in Main Hall on a day when campus was quiet - as classes were canceled in observance of Veterans Day. WAC rules prevent its members from playing Football Championship Subdivision schools. The WAC made an exception for UM, indicating that it could allow Montana's long-standing cross-state rivalry with MSU to continue even if the schools played in separate conferences. Even so, Engstrom said, if MSU and UM weren't competing for the same conference championship, that rivalry wouldn't "exist in the same way." "We're proud of that great rivalry," he said. "It's part of who we are." http://missoulian.com/sports/college/montana/article_4316d652-ee2b-11df-ba32-001cc4c002e0.html In the end Montana's relationship with Montana State, the Big Sky's own expansion and costs kept the Griz rooted in the conference it helped form in 1963. I should have stated this better. The rumbling here was that the Board of Regents did not want to let Montana go to another conference without Montana State. Nobody here with the exception of a few dilusional fans ever thought the Grizzlies were going to go to the WAC...they couldn't afford it, they've got it made as a leader in the Big Sky, and they weren't going to leave the Bobcats (who really couldn't afford it) behind anyway. The Board of Regents never really had to worry about it, so it became a moot point. If push would have came to shove, they would have had to take a stand and pony up big dollars to get them both up to WAC standards, or would have "encouraged" Montana to stay in the Big Sky. Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Did that have anything to do with the results from your teams football game that day? Regardless of atmosphere, a record amount of tickets were sold. Personally I am more excited to see the two schools play in football than I am in Basketball. Hard to say. One would have thought (I sure did) that playing UND in a major sport for the first time in several years would have been a big deal no matter what......but it really was a fizzle. Hell, I drove all the way from Wyoming to see it ( and visit family enroute) and it was pretty dull. Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 The handful of Bison fans I went to the game with where already well into drinking their sorrows away from that afternoon. Thank EWU for that atmosphere. The 10,000 tickets sold shows that before the football game results there was a lot more interest. Think they would get that for UNI? After the trash talking from Coach Farley about NDSU stealing their DC........yup. Quote
FSSD Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 I disagree. Here's why: If USD was in the BSC the rivals would be set out differently and UND probably would have UNC and USD as rivals. I'm happy with Montana State instead. In my opinion, if USD had joined the Big Sky. They would have split into divisions with: UND, USD, UM, MSU, EWU, PSU and ISU as one division playing every year, plus a mix of games from the other division - what could have been. Quote
homer Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 After the trash talking from Coach Farley about NDSU stealing their DC........yup. They have DCord. in basketball now? Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 They have DCord. in basketball now? FB..... Quote
bincitysioux Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 MSU's Ash says rivals are tragic, but schedule 'reasonable' This guy sounds like a real tool.................. He's been whining since last fall when the Big Sky was mulling over expansion at all. He acts like he was the founder of the Big Sky when in fact just 3 years ago he was coaching non-schollie ball in the Pioneer League. The only reason he has his current job is because Dale Lennon bowed out. I'm already starting to really dislike the Bob-kittens................ Quote
WYOBISONMAN Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 This guy sounds like a real tool.................. He's been whining since last fall when the Big Sky was mulling over expansion at all. He acts like he was the founder of the Big Sky when in fact just 3 years ago he was coaching non-schollie ball in the Pioneer League. The only reason he has his current job is because Dale Lennon bowed out. I'm already starting to really dislike the Bob-kittens................ It will be interesting to see what model evolves as to who will get the auto bid. And.....no matter what they come up with....someone will cry foul when they don't make the playoffs. Ash ought to be happy to have two flagship schools as rivals rather than playing Weber or EWU every year. Weber is not on the radar of anyone in Utah and barely gets a mention on the local SLC TV stations. I would suspect EWU is in the same boat. Both are second tier institutions. All the interest in Utah is focused on the U of U and BYU. Quote
nd1sufan Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 yep. Idaho too - this year. That's what I meant - what's wrong with these games? Even if UND ends up staying off the sanctions list, what's the big deal about playing Minnesota & Wisconsin when you are only going to have 1 FBS/BCS game a year anyway? The difference is getting paid barely enough to cover expenses ($150,000) to play Idaho and Wyoming or getting a $350 to $400 thousand payday to bus to Minneasota or Wisconsin and pocketing a bunch of money. Also, much more exposure playing a Big Ten team, and even more if you can beat one of the Big Ten teams. Quote
Matt Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 This guy sounds like a real tool.................. He's been whining since last fall when the Big Sky was mulling over expansion at all. He acts like he was the founder of the Big Sky when in fact just 3 years ago he was coaching non-schollie ball in the Pioneer League. The only reason he has his current job is because Dale Lennon bowed out. I'm already starting to really dislike the Bob-kittens................ Until UND proves something in the conference, don't be surprised the opponents disrespect. Respect is earned. Quote
bincitysioux Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Until UND proves something in the conference, don't be surprised the opponents disrespect. Respect is earned. Understood. It's just that he's been pissing and moaning over just the thought of expansion since the subject has come up. I just find it odd that a head coach that's only been in the Big Sky for 3 years is so publicly vocal about the expansion process. It ain't like he's Eddie Robinson..................... Quote
bincitysioux Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 I just keep looking at the 2013 schedule and how insanely awesome it is. It will be an extremely difficult one as well. -7 home games -4 consecutive home games to open the season -3 extremely high interest home games with UM, MSU, & SDSU........2 more very intriguing home games with EWU & UNC -No back-to-back road trips -Regular season finale with a November road trip to sunny Davis, CA (I highly recommend anyone who could make this trip do so) With a good product on the field, attendance could push the Alerus Center's capacity in 2013. 2013 is a 12 game year. I wouldn't be surprised though if UND sticks with just the 11 games. You could potentially squeeze in an FBS game on Sept 21, but I doubt the staff would be much in favor of sandwiching that in between the Griz and Cats. Nice to have a bye week in between those two games. If they did want 12, I wonder if it would be at all feasible to get a cupcake in on the last day of the season. Assuming we'll have first round bye in the playoffs that season , I'd rather do that and have 8 home games than have 2 consecutive weeks off going into the post-season. Quote
Cratter Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Hard to say. One would have thought (I sure did) that playing UND in a major sport for the first time in several years would have been a big deal no matter what......but it really was a fizzle. Hell, I drove all the way from Wyoming to see it ( and visit family enroute) and it was pretty dull. Not to mention a lot of fans that weren't real fans just went cause they got a free ticket from BWW, Bison fb loss, and playing it in a football stadium. Pretty easy to see where there wouldn't be much atmosphere. (and the bison domination after halftime). If the games close, there will be a good atmosphere at the Palace in the Grand City. Quote
jodcon Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 I just keep looking at the 2013 schedule and how insanely awesome it is. It will be an extremely difficult one as well. -7 home games -4 consecutive home games to open the season -3 extremely high interest home games with UM, MSU, & SDSU........2 more very intriguing home games with EWU & UNC -No back-to-back road trips -Regular season finale with a November road trip to sunny Davis, CA (I highly recommend anyone who could make this trip do so) With a good product on the field, attendance could push the Alerus Center's capacity in 2013. 2013 is a 12 game year. I wouldn't be surprised though if UND sticks with just the 11 games. You could potentially squeeze in an FBS game on Sept 21, but I doubt the staff would be much in favor of sandwiching that in between the Griz and Cats. Nice to have a bye week in between those two games. If they did want 12, I wonder if it would be at all feasible to get a cupcake in on the last day of the season. Assuming we'll have first round bye in the playoffs that season , I'd rather do that and have 8 home games than have 2 consecutive weeks off going into the post-season. I look at a schedule like this and it makes me think "recruiting tool", will be a lot easier to sell a kid (and his parents) on putting on the green jersey with this schedule in your back pocket. Quote
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