UNDBIZ Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, teamsioux said: UND losing those first two close games in Dayton over Thanksgiving hurt computer rankings also. Especially when North Florida has been around 260 in Ken Pom when I have checked. The DI non-conference record would be 4-3. But it also took a 17 point second half comeback to win the last game there and prevent 1-6 record. UND beat the best team out of the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Air Force One said: The Big Sky tournament winner gets a play-in game? This is assuming that the team that wins the regular season also wins the conference tournament. Right now UND would be playing in the play-in game with their RPI, but if they win the Big Sky tournament and there's upsets in some of the other mid-major conferences, that can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 The play in game is a joke. I wish they would have kept the tournament at 64. A team can win a conference tournament and celebrate they are going to the dance only to possibly lose in a playin game, and watch March Madness from home. Play in games should be for non conference winners only. Let the cry babies at the P5 schools play in the playin games. They are the ones who want more teams in the tournament. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 But remember non-conference games don't matter. All about the Big Sky. Now we see why they matter. You don't end up playing a #1 seed or crappy play-in game if you win a few more OOC games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, darell1976 said: The play in game is a joke. I wish they would have kept the tournament at 64. A team can win a conference tournament and celebrate they are going to the dance only to possibly lose in a playin game, and watch March Madness from home. Play in games should be for non conference winners only. Let the cry babies at the P5 schools play in the playin games. They are the ones who want more teams in the tournament. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: UND beat the best team out of the 3. True. But losing to teams that low offset a win like CSB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 still does not matter with respect to getting NCAA or NIT bid...Nobody said it does not affect RPI ...which by the way if you knew what you were talking about is influenced by who you play not just getting wins....when was the last time you showed up on a basketball other than to piss and moan??? the silence is deafening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 If you don't make the field of 64, did you really even make the tournament? Public perception and potential for exposure say no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, hoops44 said: still does not matter with respect to getting NCAA or NIT bid...Nobody said it does not affect RPI ...which by the way if you knew what you were talking about is influenced by who you play not just getting wins....when was the last time you showed up on a basketball other than to piss and moan??? the silence is deafening Who is pissing and moaning? Silence is deafening....you are a piece of work. Sorry we aren't all as sharp as you on your basketball knowledge. I do understand RPI, bad losses are a major factor as is SOS. Avoiding one or two bad losses might move you up high enough in the RPI to avoid play in games. The big exposure comes with challenging or even beating one of the big teams. Avoiding the play in game and the #1 seeds is a huge step in doing that. Just ask the Bison. Beating Oklahoma and giving Kansas a game are why people around the country noticed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Nobody turns down a NCAA at large bid to play in NIT, CIT or CBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, teamsioux said: Who is pissing and moaning? Silence is deafening....you are a piece of work. Sorry we aren't all as sharp as you on your basketball knowledge. I do understand RPI, bad losses are a major factor as is SOS. Avoiding one or two bad losses might move you up high enough in the RPI to avoid play in games. The big exposure comes with challenging or even beating one of the big teams. Avoiding the play in game and the #1 seeds is a huge step in doing that. Just ask the Bison. Beating Oklahoma and giving Kansas a game are why people around the country noticed them. Other than Weber st any BSC should be thrilled to make the big dance....Not complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, hoops44 said: Nobody turns down a NCAA at large bid to play in NIT, CIT or CBI And nobody remembers who played in last years play in games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just now, hoops44 said: Other than Weber st any BSC should be thrilled to make the big dance....Not complain Who is complaining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Why not be that team that fans across the country talk about and remember? Much better chance by being a 13-14 seed. Or at least not a play in game team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, homer said: Who is complaining? Complaining that UND did not win more preseason games..therefore hypothetically and possibly leaving them with lower NCAA bid if they in fact do make the Dance...Geez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, hoops44 said: Complaining that UND did not win more preseason games..therefore hypothetically and possibly leaving them with lower NCAA bid if they in fact do make the Dance...Geez I see it as stating a fact. Can't argue it isn't true. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I pretty sure every coach would love to avoid the play in games and #1 seeds. Damn complainers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php UND with 1 lonesome vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSIOUX Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php UND with 1 lonesome vote. Think it was Jones vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 What's women rated? They beat drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Wrong thread but women lost to the Drake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Does the conference get a a tournament credit (money) for winning a play in game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: Does the conference get a a tournament credit (money) for winning a play in game? Looks like 1.67 million. Just for making it to the play in game. Edit: Just noticed this is from 2014. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/sports/ncaa-money/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 Maybe if UND is a 16 they can be the first team ever to beat a 1. Gotta have goals people! If UND takes care of business in the next 6 games and gets in, I think there will be enough upsets where they don't get in the play-in first things is first. Beat UNC in Greely on Saturday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSSD Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bincitysioux said: Does the conference get a a tournament credit (money) for winning a play in game? I believe the conference gets a credit for a win in the first four. Not a bad deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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