Big Green Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, hky said: Bottom line: There have been 6 opportunities for the offense to drive the ball for a win and they are 0 for 6. For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late. KSU, Mt, and NDSU. Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish. Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game. Quote
Dustin Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Big Green said: For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late. KSU, Mt, and NDSU. Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish. Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game. Good comment. It takes a 3 phase game to be champion caliber. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Big Green said: For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late. KSU, Mt, and NDSU. Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish. Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game. Yes, early on the defense was getting run up to speed, but lately that hasn’t been the case. You can’t be upset UND gave up a late TD to NDSU … they held them to only 15 points! UND offense needs to score more than that every game … 1 Quote
Hawkster Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Yes, early on the defense was getting run up to speed, but lately that hasn’t been the case. You can’t be upset UND game up a late TD to NDSU … they held them to 15 points! UND offense needs to score more than that every game … The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost. The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns. Quote
Popular Post wheelsup Posted 1 hour ago Popular Post Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Hawkster said: The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost. The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns. A big reason they looked horrible is because of und defense.. give them some credit. offense / OC and kicking game needs to step up… biggest issues of the game were * not running the ball at the 2 yd line.. from my view that 3 down sequence was .. good defense.. uncalled PI.. bad throw.. should have been 3 runs. * missed chipshot FG.. basically an xp * lack of a consistent really short yardage play. I hate 4th and short from the pistol. 1 4 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 44 minutes ago, Hawkster said: The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost. The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns. All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap. Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. 2 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, siouxweet said: UND had the perfect game plan yesterday and came up short. If they played again in Fargo in a few weeks I am not sure it plays out like yesterday for UND. Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip. 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said: Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip. Agreed, UND defense was very impressive, but UND offense needs to be better… if you’re gonna be championship caliber. No other way to put it. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, UND-FB-FAN said: Agreed, UND defense was very impressive, but UND offense needs to be better… if you’re gonna be championship caliber. No other way to put it. And if we’re going to throw it at the goal line, why would we not throw to 6’5” Deng Deng?? 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: And if we’re going to throw it at the goal line, why would we not throw to 6’5” Deng Deng?? Yup. Would’ve been nice to see. The regression offensively the last couple weeks - especially in the passing game - is concerning. Momentum is crucial; fortunately can start to build the mojo back up next week down at Murray State … gonna need it versus South Dakota St. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Big Green said: For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late. KSU, Mt, and NDSU. Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish. Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game. What more did you want from the defense the last two games? They held both teams well below their averages and kept giving the offense the ball back. To me, we hang our hat on defense right now. To criticize them after what they did yesterday is ludicrous. 1 2 Quote
siouxweet Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Hawkster said: The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost. The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns. Maybe. I said it earlier UND had a perfect game plan and executed it but still came up short. NDSU could say the same about winning by 2 touchdowns. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap. Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. A lot of the SU fans were good yesterday but also a bunch of a-holes. Walked in the SE entrance before the game. An SU couple in their 40's were looking at their phones and asking each other where to go right after they got thru the ticket scan. Being a nice guy I asked if they needed any help. The woman turned away from me and in a huff said "we've got this". She still had no idea where to go but wasn't gonna give me the satisfaction of helping her out. My wife said I should have offered that they go thru the glass doors to the outside that said NO RE-ENTRY and to the special NDSU section. Also got accosted by some jackass college age guys as we walked up the stands leaving the game. Unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to ignore them and we had some back and forth. Quote
Devils Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip. Jerry was pretty bad from the start in this one. Lots of balls that were way off target. The passing game has been pretty lackluster much of the MVFC season, and of course it's not all on Jerry. Quote
UND69er Posted 44 minutes ago Posted 44 minutes ago 3 hours ago, ND-fan said: I hate how we now have stats guys giving percentage on situationally on whether to kick ball or go for it. We have this in baseball now and far as I am concerned has ruined game. There’s something to playing longterm smart play in sports that has been done for years. This year two of bigger games we have went for it against very good teams and it has cost us dearly. The first was at Montana we had kicked field goals instead of going for it we would have won. Yesterday kicking field goals would have changed game also we would have been up 4 points changing how NDSu would have looked at going for it on fourth down because they wouldn’t have been looking at only needing a field goal to go ahead but would need to drive football for touchdown. I know if we make it and score we bury them and have all momentum but if we fail like we did gives them confidence they know can beat us because we’re not confident enough we can prevent them from scoring touchdown. Also puts pressure on them they have to travel length of field to beat us and we would still then be in position to beat them with only a field goal. I just think getting points is so important and maintaining momentum that we are scoring when we have the football coming away with nothing is worst thing. Finally it takes away from special teams confidence and puts all pressure on both defense and offense because I believe special teams account for at least 20% of wins in college football. That is my opinion but I am sure there number of other opinions but right now couple more wins look where we would be and where we would be setting up for the playoffs. Agreed. But you have have CONFIDENCE in your kicker on which to make a wise go or kick decision. We, including coaches, haven't had that in several years. Where are the Glas, Tagle, Mann, and others I forget, we used to have? Is it the talent, technique or the coaching? Something is wrong in the system when we haven't had a reliable FG kicker in years. Other teams don't seem to have a big problem or am I just uninformed. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago 40 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap. Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. I will never understand this. Anything that is good for your closest rival and helps them is by definition detrimental to you. Whether it's in recruiting players or competition for fans, medial recognition, sponsorships or other $$, it's just a negative for you. 1 Quote
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