NDSU @ UND 11/8/25

[Big Green]

18 minutes ago, hky said:

Bottom line:  There have been 6 opportunities for the offense to drive the ball for a win and they are 0 for 6. 

For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late.  KSU, Mt, and NDSU.  Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish.  Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game.  

[Dustin]

36 minutes ago, Big Green said:

For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late.  KSU, Mt, and NDSU.  Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish.  Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game.  

Good comment.  It takes a 3 phase game to be champion caliber. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, Big Green said:

For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late.  KSU, Mt, and NDSU.  Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish.  Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game.  

Yes, early on the defense was getting run up to speed, but lately that hasn’t been the case. You can’t be upset UND gave up a late TD to NDSU … they held them to only 15 points! UND offense needs to score more than that every game …

[Hawkster]

1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Yes, early on the defense was getting run up to speed, but lately that hasn’t been the case. You can’t be upset UND game up a late TD to NDSU … they held them to 15 points! UND offense needs to score more than that every game …

The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost.   The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns.

[wheelsup]

7 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost.   The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns.

A big reason they looked horrible is because of und defense.. give them some credit. 
 

offense / OC and kicking game needs to step up… biggest issues of the game were

* not running the ball at the 2 yd line.. from my view that 3 down sequence was .. good defense.. uncalled PI.. bad throw.. should have been 3 runs.

* missed chipshot FG.. basically an xp

* lack of a consistent really short yardage play. I hate 4th and short from the pistol. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

44 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost.   The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns.

All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap.
 

Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. 

[geaux_sioux]

7 hours ago, siouxweet said:

UND had the perfect game plan yesterday and came up short.  If they played again in Fargo in a few weeks I am not sure it plays out like yesterday for UND.

Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip.

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:

Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip.

Agreed, UND defense was very impressive, but UND offense needs to be better… if you’re gonna be championship caliber. No other way to put it. 

[geaux_sioux]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

Agreed, UND defense was very impressive, but UND offense needs to be better… if you’re gonna be championship caliber. No other way to put it. 

And if we’re going to throw it at the goal line, why would we not throw to 6’5” Deng Deng??

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

And if we’re going to throw it at the goal line, why would we not throw to 6’5” Deng Deng??

Yup. Would’ve been nice to see. 
The regression offensively the last couple weeks - especially in the passing game - is concerning. Momentum is crucial; fortunately can start to build the mojo back up next week down at Murray State … gonna need it versus South Dakota St.

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, Big Green said:

For argument sack, how many times has the defense given up the lead late.  KSU, Mt, and NDSU.  Both sides of the ball need to learn to finish.  Defense much improved, but need to make plays at the of the game.  

What more did you want from the defense the last two games? They held both teams well below their averages and kept giving the offense the ball back. To me, we hang our hat on defense right now. To criticize them after what they did yesterday is ludicrous. 

[siouxweet]

1 hour ago, Hawkster said:

The thing is, NDSU looked horrible yesterday and we still lost.   The more I think about it UND should have won by 2 touchdowns.

Maybe.   I said it earlier UND had a perfect game plan and executed it but still came up short.  NDSU could say the same about winning by 2 touchdowns. 

[Siouxperman8]

27 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap.
 

Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. 

A lot of the SU fans were good yesterday but also a bunch of a-holes.

Walked in the SE entrance before the game. An SU couple in their 40's were looking at their phones and asking each other where to go right after they got thru the ticket scan. Being a nice guy I asked if they needed any help.  The woman turned away from me and in a huff said "we've got this".  She still had no idea where to go but wasn't gonna give me the satisfaction of helping her out.  My wife said I should have offered that they go thru the glass doors to the outside that said NO RE-ENTRY and to the special NDSU section.

Also got accosted by some jackass college age guys as we walked up the stands leaving the game.  Unfortunately I wasn't smart enough to ignore them and we had some back and forth. 

[Devils]

36 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip.

Jerry was pretty bad from the start in this one.  Lots of balls that were way off target.  The passing game has been pretty lackluster much of the MVFC season, and of course it's not all on Jerry.  

[UND69er]

3 hours ago, ND-fan said:

I hate how we now have stats guys giving percentage on situationally on whether to kick ball or go for it. We have this in baseball now and far as I am concerned has ruined game. There’s something to playing longterm smart play in sports that has been done for years. This year two of bigger games we have went for it against very good teams and it has cost us dearly. The first was at Montana we had kicked field goals instead of going for it we would have won. Yesterday kicking field goals would have changed game also we would have been up 4 points changing  how NDSu would have looked at going for it on fourth down because they wouldn’t have been looking at only needing a field goal to go ahead but would need to drive football for touchdown.  I know if we make it and score we bury them and have all momentum but if we fail like we did gives them confidence they know can beat us because we’re not confident enough we can prevent them from scoring touchdown. Also puts pressure on them they have to travel length of field to beat us and we would still then be in position to beat them with only a field goal. I just think getting points is so important and maintaining momentum that we are scoring when we have the football coming away with nothing is worst thing. Finally it takes away from special teams confidence and puts all pressure on both defense and offense because I believe special teams account for at least 20% of wins in college football. That is my opinion  but I am sure there number of other opinions but right now couple more wins look where we would be and where we would be setting up for the playoffs.

Agreed. But you have have CONFIDENCE in your kicker on which to make a wise go or kick decision. We, including coaches, haven't had that in several years. Where are the Glas, Tagle, Mann, and others I forget, we used to have? Is it the talent, technique or the coaching? Something is wrong in the system when we haven't had a reliable FG kicker in years. Other teams don't seem to have a big problem or am I just uninformed.

[Siouxperman8]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

All a matter of perspective. First of all, too many UND fans are still too supportive of those arrogant a$$holes; the amount of “it’s good for the state, I cheer for both, blah, blah, blah” I heard yesterday from die-hard UND supporters in attendance is nauseating. This is relevant because it contributes to this inflated opinion that ag college is invincible. They aren’t. Don’t buy into all that Fargo propaganda crap.
 

Secondly, any chance the ag college offense looked poor because the UND defense and venue atmosphere was just that good? Of course! But, conversely, the ag college defense was very stout and impressive looking at times yesterday. 

I will never understand this.  Anything that is good for your closest rival and helps them is by definition detrimental to you.  Whether it's in recruiting players or competition for fans, media recognition, sponsorships or other $$, it's just a negative for you.

[ND-fan]

This tale of opposites for UND last year offense delivered pretty consistently but defense couldn’t stop opposing teams. This year the offense has sputtered large chunks of season especially against top tier teams. Jerry as quarterback is struggling right now and I hate to say it his youth is showing through right now and good teams are taking advantage of it right now. UND offense depends on quarterback to make right reads and be able recognize what defenses are throwing at us. This is why he didn’t get much playing time last year but he is going to be successful quarterback but we’re living through his growing pains. There are very few successful young quarterbacks in FCS  and especially ones that are expected to throw ball number of times to make offense go. Everyone is going to blame offensive coordinator for Jerry’s  problems but this is simple knee jerk reaction but this is more need of playing time and learning curve for both to get right plays called or that will work. Deep programs usually always have junior senior at quarterback and somebody like Jerry playing number of snaps as sophomore be leader when they become junior/senior.  This old school was what Bubba was doing last year but sSchmidt looked saw upgrade in physical and athletic ability but quarterback is just not athletic ability it’s also the knowledge which just going to take time with Jerry. The problem with all this is now NLI money and ability transfer all hard work finding develop players you are constantly looking for players and developing new players hoping you retain enough to win championship. It could be worse we could be SDSU now three deep on quarterback plus number of other players.

[Siouxperfan7]

Not running the ball once from first and goal at the 3 was the critical turning point in the game.  Should have made it 14-3 there.  Instead we get nothing.  There is ZERO excuse to not run the ball there.  If it takes you 4 times and you still don't get it, so be it.  Can't overthink it there.  Inexcusable play calling from Isaac there.  

[Roger S.]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

What more did you want from the defense the last two games? They held both teams well below their averages and kept giving the offense the ball back. To me, we hang our hat on defense right now. To criticize them after what they did yesterday is ludicrous. 

Exactly!!!!!

[iramurphy]

9 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

pretty sure simon didn't spin the laces out...laffer i think was asking simon "wf" after the miss

Laces didn’t look out but tough to see. They weren’t facing the kicker either. You may wish to look  where the laces were on KO’s. (Our kicker placed the ball on the tee with laces facing him).

The missed FG had nothing to do with the laces, he just jerked it left. Kicking laces may cost distance on longer kicks, but aren’t an issue from that close. 

Virtually every fan is frustrated with the bizarre play calling in key situations. Most fans are frustrated with our QB play the last 2 games. Most fans are frustrated with our FG/kicking struggles. Most fans with a FB IQ above that of a cabbage see those issues, (not the holder on FG’s) as the key areas we need to fix if we are going to win out. We can make a run this year but we need to win the last 2.  
 

 

[iramurphy]

3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Tough for Jerry to play worse and Freuchte to call worse plays in big moments. Look at the stats from the game. We were the better team and lost. Jerry and Isaac need to find a way to deliver in big moments. That’s one thing I miss about Danny. We got in the end zone if we got inside the 30 at a really nice clip.

Did Jerry get distracted by “Jerry FB” and Heisman talk or is Bike Guy stalking him, causing him to lose focus. Either way he needs to get back on track if we are going to win our last 2. 

[Johnny Five]

The Alerus is a hell of a homefield advantage for UND.  That'll be a real playoff doozy in the future.  I don't think Mr. Schmidt will be in Grand Forks very long.  And by that I mean....that is a good problem to have.  I don't see UND having a problem with SDSU with or without their starting QB and I'm thinking a semifinal appearance come playoff time.  The defense is nasty and any rankings coming out that have them outside the Top 10 is flat out dumb.  Yeah there's 4 losses....but good grief, only one real "turd" if you can even call it that. 

I'm not gonna be surprised if there's another meeting in Fargo this year.

 

[Dustin]

2 hours ago, Johnny Five said:

The Alerus is a hell of a homefield advantage for UND.  That'll be a real playoff doozy in the future.  I don't think Mr. Schmidt will be in Grand Forks very long.  And by that I mean....that is a good problem to have.  I don't see UND having a problem with SDSU with or without their starting QB and I'm thinking a semifinal appearance come playoff time.  The defense is nasty and any rankings coming out that have them outside the Top 10 is flat out dumb.  Yeah there's 4 losses....but good grief, only one real "turd" if you can even call it that. 

I'm not gonna be surprised if there's another meeting in Fargo this year.

 

Love your comments.  I too think UND will beat SDSU regardless of their QB situation.  An FCS semi-final game would be a HUGE success for the season.  Heck, I'd be pretty happy playing in a quarterfinal game.  Hoping to make some noise in playoffs.

[UND-FB-FAN]

29 minutes ago, Dustin said:

Heck, I'd be pretty happy playing in a quarterfinal game.

Don’t lower the expectations. Only one expectation is okay and that’s Nashville. 

Go 1-0 each week. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

41 minutes ago, Johnny Five said:

The Alerus is a hell of a homefield advantage for UND.  That'll be a real playoff doozy in the future.  I don't think Mr. Schmidt will be in Grand Forks very long.  And by that I mean....that is a good problem to have.  I don't see UND having a problem with SDSU with or without their starting QB and I'm thinking a semifinal appearance come playoff time.  The defense is nasty and any rankings coming out that have them outside the Top 10 is flat out dumb.  Yeah there's 4 losses....but good grief, only one real "turd" if you can even call it that. 

I'm not gonna be surprised if there's another meeting in Fargo this year.

 

Agreed. Need home games in playoffs though. But no doubt Alerus is a top home-field advantage if we get playoff games in there.