Search for a New Head Coach

[Rebel_Sioux]

1 hour ago, brianvf said:

January is when it all changed for this season and when the admins starting thinking seriously of replacing Berry.
The ASU weekend was turbulent and when the tension between Berry & Jackson kind of overflowed...rumor is that they almost came to blows.
Then the horrible home weekend against WMU.
Then the following weekend when the "Jammer incident" occurred during the bye week.

The admins started hearing about these issues from players, staff, and team personnel.
Players were not happy with how Berry handled the Jammer issue...Dane wanted to handle it in a different manner that aligned with what the players wanted as well.

Berry is a great guy, no one is stating otherwise.  I think he got taken advantage of a bit with that and he couldn't make the tough choices, especially with this year's senior class, their playing time & roles, and the Jammer issue.
By the time the season ended, the decision to replace Berry had already been made and had been in process for at least a month or more.

What was the Jammer issue?

[siouxfaninseattle]

36 minutes ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said:

Hmmmm.....

[Siouxdaddy]

1 minute ago, Rebel_Sioux said:

What was the Jammer issue?

Inappropriate behavior with a teamates girlfriend at Palooza

[tnt]

1 hour ago, brianvf said:

January is when it all changed for this season and when the admins starting thinking seriously of replacing Berry.
The ASU weekend was turbulent and when the tension between Berry & Jackson kind of overflowed...rumor is that they almost came to blows.
Then the horrible home weekend against WMU.
Then the following weekend when the "Jammer incident" occurred during the bye week.

The admins started hearing about these issues from players, staff, and team personnel.
Players were not happy with how Berry handled the Jammer issue...Dane wanted to handle it in a different manner that aligned with what the players wanted as well.

Berry is a great guy, no one is stating otherwise.  I think he got taken advantage of a bit with that and he couldn't make the tough choices, especially with this year's senior class, their playing time & roles, and the Jammer issue.
By the time the season ended, the decision to replace Berry had already been made and had been in process for at least a month or more.

Is Schlossman completely out of the loop on everything?  He always seems to be playing catch up on a lot of the behind the scenes stuff.  Not saying he should repeat it, but if this stuff is true it wouldn’t be all about the wins, losses narrative he is pushing.

[scpa0305]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

I think I stated it the other night, but what I really care about is having the opportunity to win while watching a team of elite talent play a fast, skilled game.  Kids I am going to keep watching at the next level like I did Toews, Oshie, Parise, Zajac...none of which who won a Natty but 2 of which combined for 4 cups.  With a team like we had back then or like BC has now, you never counted yourself out.  Sure we lost in the NCAAs, but talk about fun hockey every friday and saturday night.  I like the ride and the skill, not just the result.

Horrible syle of play is why I will never pay to watch a Wild game, and that all stems from Lemaire.  

This is what i witnessed this year….mid 2000 mn wild team. Impossible to watch. Zero offensive 

[Walsh Hall]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

you know what just dawned on me with the chippaz?  In order to be a true chippa these days, not only do you have to have the talent and the work ethic, but also you need to have parents with money.  It is really rare to find a blue collar chippa in the US.  So, some of the approach might be that these kids have always grown up knowing they will go to school and it will be paid for.  Whether its hockey or a parental scholarship.  So, they don't feel like anybody is really doing them a solid, its just another team they are making...no different than any other elite team, they are just 18 years old now.  I don't think they are rude about it, its just that it doesn't feel that special or amazing, because it was always going to happen.

I’m out of the loop these days, but back in the 1990’s there was a noticeable difference from  the Canadian chippaz to the US chippaz in terms of,  how do you put it… attitude and entitlement?   The ‘nucks were all very down  to earth unassuming guys, US guys not so much (certainly some exceptions). Sounds like the US side of things is the same.

[nascar99]

7 minutes ago, tnt said:

Is Schlossman completely out of the loop on everything?  He always seems to be playing catch up on a lot of the behind the scenes stuff.  Not saying he should repeat it, but if this stuff is true it wouldn’t be all about the wins, losses narrative he is pushing.

He's in the loop, he just won't repeat it in order to keep his sources & potentially his whole job. DM Schloss politely on Twitter & you'll find out that he knows more behind the scenes but can't really bring it up on pods & in articles.

[SuhakiYeahYeah]

3 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

He's in the loop, he just won't repeat it in order to keep his sources & potentially his whole job. DM Schloss politely on Twitter & you'll find out that he knows more behind the scenes but can't really bring it up on pods & in articles.

He also wants to keep himself as the sort of "breaking news" guy, the one who has the scoop before anyone else

[nascar99]

1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

I think I stated it the other night, but what I really care about is having the opportunity to win while watching a team of elite talent play a fast, skilled game.  Kids I am going to keep watching at the next level like I did Toews, Oshie, Parise, Zajac...none of which who won a Natty but 2 of which combined for 4 cups.  With a team like we had back then or like BC has now, you never counted yourself out.  Sure we lost in the NCAAs, but talk about fun hockey every friday and saturday night.  I like the ride and the skill, not just the result.

Horrible syle of play is why I will never pay to watch a Wild game, and that all stems from Lemaire.  

I think you need a balance of your top end stars in the Toews, Oshie, Boeser, Schmaltz type, but you still need your Cole Smith, Austin Poganski, Gage Ausmus type guys too. And you need to recruit the rare Caggiula types who have pretty high end skill for the NCAA level but grit/bite/edge/tenacity that few have anymore.

Also, just recruit a top end goalie, I know they're hard to find, but c'mon on. Wonder if Jacob Fowler was not pursued hard by Berry and staff, or if he just wanted to stay east of Lake Michigan, in which he came down to Boston College & Michigan, obviously chose the Eagles.

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

I think you need a balance of your top end stars in the Toews, Oshie, Boeser, Schmaltz type, but you still need your Cole Smith, Austin Poganski, Gage Ausmus type guys too. And you need to recruit the rare Caggiula types who have pretty high end skill for the NCAA level but grit/bite/edge/tenacity that few have anymore.

Also, just recruit a top end goalie, I know they're hard to find, but c'mon on. Wonder if Jacob Fowler was not pursued hard by Berry and staff, or if he just wanted to stay east of Lake Michigan, in which he came down to Boston College & Michigan, obviously chose the Eagles.

I have always said, a mix of 1 to 2 year guys and 3 to 4 year guys is best.

[Dustin]

7 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I have always said, a mix of 1 to 2 year guys and 3 to 4 year guys is best.

Especially 3-4 year D men. 

[nascar99]

8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I have always said, a mix of 1 to 2 year guys and 3 to 4 year guys is best.

Which basically means if you combined the Michigan approach and the Minnesota approach, you’d win national championships pretty consistently. But both of those programs get in their own way for different reasons, hence their title droughts.

North Dakota should have the right mix every year, but the coaching and potentially some of the recruiting has dipped lately.

[tnt]

17 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

He's in the loop, he just won't repeat it in order to keep his sources & potentially his whole job. DM Schloss politely on Twitter & you'll find out that he knows more behind the scenes but can't really bring it up on pods & in articles.

Then if this dust up with Jackson is true beyond the Jamernik issue, why is Schlossman making it all about Berry’s record?  Of course the record alone in the playoffs should be reason enough for a top tier program.

[Oxbow6]

UConn is just about to tie UND in NCAA tournament wins over the past 9 seasons.

[Blackheart]

32 minutes ago, tnt said:

Is Schlossman completely out of the loop on everything?  He always seems to be playing catch up on a lot of the behind the scenes stuff.  Not saying he should repeat it, but if this stuff is true it wouldn’t be all about the wins, losses narrative he is pushing.

That's a pretty big IF assuming stuff on this message board is true.

[brianvf]

Just now, Oxbow6 said:

UConn is just about to tie UND in NCAA tournament wins over the past 9 seasons.

Ha, i just posted the same thing in the other thread. 
Great minds.   

[Greenbayguy87]

34 minutes ago, nascar99 said:

He's in the loop, he just won't repeat it in order to keep his sources & potentially his whole job. DM Schloss politely on Twitter & you'll find out that he knows more behind the scenes but can't really bring it up on pods & in articles.

Used to be journalists broke stories.  If it can’t be written, and at times be uncomfortable with those written about, I can read press releases on X.

[fargosioux]

22 minutes ago, Dustin said:

Especially 3-4 year D men. 

Exactly! A team full of freshmen & sophomore D-men is a horrible formula for postseason success.

[stoneySIOUX]

52 minutes ago, tnt said:

Is Schlossman completely out of the loop on everything?  He always seems to be playing catch up on a lot of the behind the scenes stuff.  Not saying he should repeat it, but if this stuff is true it wouldn’t be all about the wins, losses narrative he is pushing.

So, you think he should reveal a fight between two coaches?

[Oxbow6]

4 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

So, you think he should reveal a fight between two coaches?

Fight sounds a little barbaric.  We prefer the term dust up.

[tnt]

5 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

So, you think he should reveal a fight between two coaches?

Did I say that? Just saying don’t be incredulous about the firing if that was going on and was known. 

[Cratter]

So Hakstol thought Berry would be a better head coach than Dane.

and then Berry pretty clearly in his letter didn't want Dane to be head coach.

Then UND hired Dane to be the head coach!

[stoneySIOUX]

1 minute ago, tnt said:

Did I say that? Just saying don’t be incredulous about the firing if that was going on and was known. 

Ok, fair enough. In your opinion, what should he be saying? He's a local newspaper writer writing about college hockey. I don't get why people think he needs to be an investigative reporter and reveal all the secrets. 

[tnt]

Just now, stoneySIOUX said:

Ok, fair enough. In your opinion, what should he be saying? He's a local newspaper writer writing about college hockey. I don't get why people think he needs to be an investigative reporter and reveal all the secrets. 

Oh, I don’t know, maybe a lot of the reasons people on this site have given for thinking a change was in order.  Giving only the positive stats and ignoring the others doesn’t give a complete picture, and I thought being a journalist was to give both sides of issues and let the readers decide for themselves.

[brianvf]

Just now, stoneySIOUX said:

Ok, fair enough. In your opinion, what should he be saying? He's a local newspaper writer writing about college hockey. I don't get why people think he needs to be an investigative reporter and reveal all the secrets. 

Yeah.  You know he def knows more than he is reporting, which is why his outburst at the firing was so odd.
Like in his article about Berry's firing where he mentioned the info about other schools actively trying to poach our players as far back as Jan (when the issues started!) and about other schools contacting our recruits.  Neither of those are earth-shattering news for sure, but he had never mentioned that in any earlier podcast or article.  Yet you know that he knew about it happening.