The top team in the land visits the Ralph. Denver @ UND

[brianvf]

38 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

For further context, it looks like we added 7 in the portal in 2023 to Denver's 0.

Carle don't need no transfers!

38 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

No other college team has to deal with player injuries though.  Only North Dakota.  

We'll have to look into the math on that one.

[GDPritch]

55 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

This team has no identity.  Without an identity, you're going to play without purpose, and that's what UND games look like.

Are we a race horse team beating you with speed and skating up and down the ice?  No.  Are we grind it out physical teams making the opponent earn every inch of the ice?  Not even close.  Are we defensive-minded, controlling neutral zone and playing cautious but optimistic?  Nope.  Are we a team loaded with snipers using puck movement to give our guys clean looks.  Haven't seen it.  

What are we??  On a good night, we play with a bit of energy and have enough skill to overcome.  On a bad night, we look totally lost and players have no purpose in their movements other than to react to whatever the situation gives, instead of controlling the game and playing with intent.  What does Berry actually coach?

You sum it up perfectly.

[.357]

23 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Definitely a tough season so far. Didn’t see this coming. Injuries stink but good teams find a way. DU is obviously good but again, dzone breakdowns hurt us bad.

I was looking forward to this year, but so far it's been a continual uphill climb in terms of consistency & injuries. Some years are just like that, it's the volatile nature of sports. Whereas DU is coasting & it seems like everything they do turns to gold. I'm not ruling UND out because they could go on a tear, but realistically the odds aren't in their favor; they don't seem to have the horses, the consistency & the savvy coaching that define successful teams.

[SiouxFanSince1990]

Maybe our players just aren’t very good. Maybe Berry has lost his recruiting edge. How many of his forwards have been successful after college hockey? Denver is the second youngest team in the country, and also the best. Is it recruiting, coaching, the system? I saw like three different teams tonight. One that was fast, and hard on pucks. One that was slow, and watching the game. The other was pond hockey. Slapping the puck around, no look passes to no where. Guys just giving up on plays. It’s maddening.

[Oxbow6]

OMac at center was a noticeable upgrade with Perron and James.

.....and you're welcome.

[scpa0305]

5 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

Maybe our players just aren’t very good. Maybe Berry has lost his recruiting edge. How many of his forwards have been successful after college hockey? Denver is the second youngest team in the country, and also the best. Is it recruiting, coaching, the system? I saw like three different teams tonight. One that was fast, and hard on pucks. One that was slow, and watching the game. The other was pond hockey. Slapping the puck around, no look passes to no where. Guys just giving up on plays. It’s maddening.

Carle is a super recruiter. Gets a couple blue chips each year and back fills with great over agers. Just got Berchild and I’ve heard he’s about to get another MN gem. He’s on a roll…just need some NHL squad to scoop him up sooner rather than later.

[scpa0305]

4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

OMac at center was a noticeable upgrade with Perron and James.

.....and you're welcome.

Agreed. Perron has to start hitting the net though. He’s way too skilled to be this nonexistent.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

I wonder who tells these players to do all these drop/behind passes? The waved off goal was started in Denver’s end by #27 do a behind the back pass that missed, every player seems guilty 

[cberkas]

1 hour ago, Big A HG said:

 

For further context, it looks like we added 7 in the portal in 2023 to Denver's 0.

Carle came out and said he doesn't rely on the portal, instead he trusts his recruiting 

[.357]

3 hours ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

Is it recruiting, coaching, the system? 

Everything flows from the coach. Carle is in a league of his own. If he were coaching UND's current team, there's a high likelihood that he would put a lot better product on the ice, because he gets the most out of his players. Whereas Berry does the usual Berry stuff in a Berry kind of way. Carle's building a dynasty at Denver, & UND is currently unable to stop him. 

[Cratter]

Young coach who is good at keeping up with college hockey changing landscape vs older coach who is ready to retire on a beach and likes to overeat.

Oops I said the quiet part out loud. 

[Scratch]

Denver literally toyed with them. Zeev is almost as good as Sanderson it seems like. this team absolutely sucks. We’re back to 2018. Tournament isn’t happening and our strength is “depth” aka this is just a !@#!$ team. If I’m wrong who is the game breaker

[Scratch]

On 11/15/2024 at 8:50 PM, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

Sure, but that blunder off the dot, led to a 2 on 1.

How could a person watch these games and think that there’s a net gain here. Siouxwhatever is gonna say I’m a Debby downer and he’s right but this team is not a step away from putting it all together they are on home ice getting swept by a denver team that is more talented and works harder. “at the end of the day” being unable to do anything about zeev buium skating laps in your end means you just suck

[SiouxForever]

So TJ warranted to start over Hobie? 

What has TJ shown? Not trying to rip a goalie with an injured back end, but 3 goals per game (like I said) isn’t going to cut it. UND is not going to win many games if they’re giving up 3 goals per game. 

[I Ranger]

8 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

Carle is a super recruiter. Gets a couple blue chips each year and back fills with great over agers. Just got Berchild and I’ve heard he’s about to get another MN gem. He’s on a roll…just need some NHL squad to scoop him up sooner rather than later.

And their recruiting has really taken an uptick capitalizing on these most recent national championships. This is/was the most frustrating thing for me after our natty in 2016. Instead of building of the momentum of finally getting the monkey off our back we followed it up with 2 of the worst recruiting classes maybe ever at UND. 

[scpa0305]

2 minutes ago, I Ranger said:

And their recruiting has really taken an uptick capitalizing on these most recent national championships. This is/was the most frustrating thing for me after our natty in 2016. Instead of building of the momentum of finally getting the monkey off our back we followed it up with 2 of the worst recruiting classes maybe ever at UND. 

Plus he’s the WJC coach…that helps big time 

[siouxweet]

9 hours ago, .357 said:

Everything flows from the coach. Carle is in a league of his own. If he were coaching UND's current team, there's a high likelihood that he would put a lot better product on the ice, because he gets the most out of his players. Whereas Berry does the usual Berry stuff in a Berry kind of way. Carle's building a dynasty at Denver, & UND is currently unable to stop him. 

To a certain extent maybe the game has passed Berry by.  He wants to develop these kids into NHL type players but the problem is that he is trying to make them late 90s early 2000 type players not 2024 NHL players.

[fightingsioux4life]

9 hours ago, .357 said:

Everything flows from the coach. Carle is in a league of his own. If he were coaching UND's current team, there's a high likelihood that he would put a lot better product on the ice, because he gets the most out of his players. Whereas Berry does the usual Berry stuff in a Berry kind of way. Carle's building a dynasty at Denver, & UND is currently unable to stop him. 

But we can't expect that kind of success here because the NCAA tournament is "one and done" and it's all about "luck". (sarcasm) 

Cripes, our program is sinking into the black hole of low expectations and even worse results. I am sick of playing second and third fiddle to other teams in the national college hockey scene. This should not be a problem here. Ever.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

We seem to get good recruits but don’t develop them , Boisvert, Swanson were big time players in the USHL but seem average in Berrys system , I have said many times UND where good players come to play worse. Compare Denver or Minnesota to UND and styles they play ? Also look at results and NCAA results. Berry for whatever reason will not or cannot adapt but dang is he a nice guy. #culture

[90siouxfan]

19 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

We seem to get good recruits but don’t develop them , Boisvert, Swanson were big time players in the USHL but seem average in Berrys system , I have said many times UND where goid players come to play worse. Compare Denver or Minnesota to UND and styles they play ? Also look at results and NCAA results. Berry for whatever reason will not or cannot adapt but Dan is he a nice guy. #culture

I don't know Dan, but my default is that everyone is a nice guy until proven otherwise. It is a costly way of thinking but it's the way I choose to be.

[KetoChronos]

10 hours ago, brianvf said:

Carle don't need no transfers!

We'll have to look into the math on that one.

Denver picked up two transfers in the portal this year, Eric Pohlkamp and Samu Salminen. Both have made a meaningful contribution. Pohlkamp (defenseman) came from Bemidji State, where he was the top player and a top CCHA star. He was drafted by the San Jose Sharks in 2023. Pohlkamp connected with David Carle as a member of the World Junior Championship team that Carle coached. Salminen (forward) transferred from Connecticut and is a Junior. He was drafted by the New Jersey Devils in 2021. Salminen had some history with Denver as a commitment that for some reason didn’t work out for him as a freshman. 
 

Denver does seek transfers, just not as many as some teams. 
 

[KetoChronos]

I read here that UND fans are upset and worried, but I wouldn’t count them out as of yet.  Full disclosure, I grew up near GF and now live in Denver and am a diehard DU fan. Growing up I was a Sioux fan of course. So, some mixed allegiances. 
October to December is less about wins than it is growth and coming together as a team. Denver started slow last season and also in 21-22 seasons when they won the championship. 
What matters is tournament time. That’s where the wins absolutely matter. Your team could very well get its act together and surprise the naysayers. 
I do have to agree with those who are critical of Berry. Sometimes teams just need a fresh start, a new face and approach. 
 

[MafiaMan]

10 hours ago, cberkas said:

Carle came out and said he doesn't rely on the portal, instead he trusts his recruiting 

He might be onto something with this “recruiting” thing…

[siouxkid12]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

But we can't expect that kind of success here because the NCAA tournament is "one and done" and it's all about "luck". (sarcasm) 

Cripes, our program is sinking into the black hole of low expectations and even worse results. I am sick of playing second and third fiddle to other teams in the national college hockey scene. This should not be a problem here. Ever.

We are experiencing the late 80’s and early 90’s all over. The difference is, we have a fancy arena that makes the crap on the ice acceptable to watch.

The only way Berry is replaced as HC is if he leaves or retires. The AD doesn’t have the balls to do it and Berry had Kris Engelstad in his corner. 

[Blackheart]

13 hours ago, George M. Bluth said:

Does it matter??

It was just unfortunate his stick broke but it happens.  Simply was curious if he skated off or picked up a new stick on the fly to try get back into the play.  Yes, in hindsight he probably should have just tried to slow down one of the DU guys on the rush.