Fire Berry Please!

[Melvin]

On 12/27/2024 at 11:24 AM, fightingsioux4life said:

I guess we'll see if that happens or not.

I have a feeling you're going to be disappointed. 

[yzerman19]

25 minutes ago, SJHovey said:

He wasn’t on any of Hak’s FF teams or the four Blais teams I referenced.

Parise was Blais' prizw recruit and played for him.  You are correct they didn't make the frozen four.  Should have.   

toews and oshie both played on Hak frozen four teams

[gfhockey]

Blais was a cos ch the playas feared and knew they would skate if they f ed up

 

berry is a coach that cuddles the playas. Breakfast bars lunch buffets and charter planes oh my!

[SJHovey]

30 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

Parise was Blais' prizw recruit and played for him.  You are correct they didn't make the frozen four.  Should have.   

toews and oshie both played on Hak frozen four teams

I think the point of my post was missed. I opined that Blais’ most successful four year stretch was significantly better than Hak’s best four year stretch, and Blais did it with zero first round picks vs. Hak’s half dozen. 

[fightingsioux4life]

6 minutes ago, SJHovey said:

I think the point of my post was missed. I opined that Blais’ most successful four year stretch was significantly better than Hak’s best four year stretch, and Blais did it with zero first round picks vs. Hak’s half dozen. 

AND Blais did it without a shiny $104 Million arena.

[cberkas]

So, looking at years 1997-2001 of "chippas" in the NCAA 

1997 - 0

1998 - 1

1999 - 3

2000 - 7 (Hale was a 2000 but played 2001)

The amount of 1st rounders going NCAA wasn't all that high until Hak was coach. With 1986 having 5 (Pelawa being one)

1995-2004 37 1st rounders (1 didn't play in the NHL)

2005-2015 55 1st rounders (1 didn't play in the NHL)

[tnt]

Where is the line of expectation for this program?  Brad Schlossman points out that Pat Ferschweiler for Western Michigan just got a new contract through 2030, based on them making the tourney for the last 3 years, the first time in program history.  
Looks like they will most likely make it 4 years in a row this year, which is something Berry has never done, and Western has had a lot of turnover the past few years.

Western reminds me of the style we used to be known for, by being fast hockey with an edge that sometimes is a problem because of penalties.

Western does have the problem we have had lately though and have not done much in the tournament, and thus the question, what should the level of expectation be for our program compared to those of teams like St. Cloud and Western who both have had decent success?

 

[yzerman19]

If we are now in the same strata as Jan Brady and Western that is really, really sad.  

[cberkas]

33 minutes ago, tnt said:

Western does have the problem we have had lately though and have not done much in the tournament, and thus the question, what should the level of expectation be for our program compared to those of teams like St. Cloud and Western who both have had decent success?

 

Western Michigan has made a total of 9 NCAAs about to be 10. Might as well give him the contract extension with him having 3/4 of those appearances. Eventually that first win is going to come and hopefully many more after that.

[gfhockey]

20 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

AND Blais did it without a shiny $104 Million arena.

As does sandy

[cberkas]

12 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

As does sandy

Had most of his success once AMSOIL Arena was built 

[gfhockey]

1 hour ago, cberkas said:

Had most of his success once AMSOIL Arena was built 

Was it 104 million

[sioux rube]

10 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Was it 104 million

Obviously they didn't need one to fit 12,000 spectators in hence the lower price tag 

[cberkas]

19 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Was it 104 million

$80 million 

[SiouxFan100]

20 hours ago, cberkas said:

$80 million 

Which is still a lot

[SJHovey]

On 12/31/2024 at 6:44 PM, cberkas said:

So, looking at years 1997-2001 of "chippas" in the NCAA 

1997 - 0

1998 - 1

1999 - 3

2000 - 7 (Hale was a 2000 but played 2001)

The amount of 1st rounders going NCAA wasn't all that high until Hak was coach. With 1986 having 5 (Pelawa being one)

1995-2004 37 1st rounders (1 didn't play in the NHL)

2005-2015 55 1st rounders (1 didn't play in the NHL)

Fun fact.  There isn't a single current college hockey player who was alive when Michigan last won a national championship.

[sioux rube]

22 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Which is still a lot

Today the Ralph would be closer to 180 million