2024 Non-UND FCS Thread

[The Sicatoka]

3 minutes ago, Shawn-O said:

We’re the Idaho State of the East.  Yippee! 

You see it too. 

[JackJD]

With NDSU, USD and SDSU all claiming a share of the conference title, the Sagarin rating was the conference’s agreed method for resolving which team could claim the automatic qualifier for the playoffs. The AQ had no bearing on the selection committee’s process for determining seeding and matchups.  Had NDSU won in Vermillion, or if SDSU had lost at Missouri State, the Sagarin rating would not have been a topic on any fan message board.

I think most SDSU fans recognize that SDSU playing DII Augustana and USD playing DII Northern State, were factors in the committee’s work. In SDSU’s case, the decision to play Augie was a late call – SDSU was contracted to host FCS (WAC) Utah Tech (formerly Dixie State out of St. George, UT) but Utah Tech backed out. I don’t know anything about USD’s scheduling decision but that decision took on added significance when Portland State cancelled USD’s game after USD flew in to Portland only to hear PSU's team had been exposed to pertussis (a fact PSU knew for a day or two before USD got on the plane)…it was likely USD would have won that game but instead ended up with one less DI game on its schedule.

It seems hard to argue with Montana State’s #1 seed or NDSU’s #2 seed based on win/loss and more detailed season stats. In my view, USD’s win over NDSU should have been a discussion point in the committee’s deliberations – should a losing team be seeded higher than a team that just beat them? -- but what weight was given to that point in light of other factors is beyond me. My guess is the committee thought a little about what could happen if the brackets permitted SDSU meeting NDSU in Frisco, a repeat of the 2022 game (boring to the rest of the country; or, if the brackets permitted SDSU playing USD in Frisco.  What is the interest in playoffs for fans whose favorite team is not located in Montana or one of the Dakotas?

I think you’ll find very little griping by SDSU fans about the bracket and seeding. Sure, there are some personal preferences about whether we end up in Fargo or Bozeman if we get through the preliminary rounds; but, I think the Jacks faithful take a note from our coach and the team: we’ll play anybody, anywhere. To get to Frisco means we have to go through some very good teams (cue the “last play” and “one game at a time” mantras).

Jacks fans are guardedly optimistic right now.  Since mid-season, the Jacks have looked like and played like the Jacks teams of the past couple of seasons. In some respects, we may be better.  The adjustment to the loss of a great senior class now well represented in the NFL, took longer than we thought but now, much like last season and the playoffs, we have been crushing teams. This past weekend, a pretty good Missouri State team could only score 9 points at home – three field goals.

Best of luck to UND working through the discussions about whether a coaching change is warranted.  That’s a tough decision that impacts all of the teams in the conference.

[geaux_sioux]

9 minutes ago, JackJD said:

With NDSU, USD and SDSU all claiming a share of the conference title, the Sagarin rating was the conference’s agreed method for resolving which team could claim the automatic qualifier for the playoffs. The AQ had no bearing on the selection committee’s process for determining seeding and matchups.  Had NDSU won in Vermillion, or if SDSU had lost at Missouri State, the Sagarin rating would not have been a topic on any fan message board.

I think most SDSU fans recognize that SDSU playing DII Augustana and USD playing DII Northern State, were factors in the committee’s work. In SDSU’s case, the decision to play Augie was a late call – SDSU was contracted to host FCS (WAC) Utah Tech (formerly Dixie State out of St. George, UT) but Utah Tech backed out. I don’t know anything about USD’s scheduling decision but that decision took on added significance when Portland State cancelled USD’s game after USD flew in to Portland only to hear PSU's team had been exposed to pertussis (a fact PSU knew for a day or two before USD got on the plane)…it was likely USD would have won that game but instead ended up with one less DI game on its schedule.

It seems hard to argue with Montana State’s #1 seed or NDSU’s #2 seed based on win/loss and more detailed season stats. In my view, USD’s win over NDSU should have been a discussion point in the committee’s deliberations – should a losing team be seeded higher than a team that just beat them? -- but what weight was given to that point in light of other factors is beyond me. My guess is the committee thought a little about what could happen if the brackets permitted SDSU meeting NDSU in Frisco, a repeat of the 2022 game (boring to the rest of the country; or, if the brackets permitted SDSU playing USD in Frisco.  What is the interest in playoffs for fans whose favorite team is not located in Montana or one of the Dakotas?

I think you’ll find very little griping by SDSU fans about the bracket and seeding. Sure, there are some personal preferences about whether we end up in Fargo or Bozeman if we get through the preliminary rounds; but, I think the Jacks faithful take a note from our coach and the team: we’ll play anybody, anywhere. To get to Frisco means we have to go through some very good teams (cue the “last play” and “one game at a time” mantras).

Jacks fans are guardedly optimistic right now.  Since mid-season, the Jacks have looked like and played like the Jacks teams of the past couple of seasons. In some respects, we may be better.  The adjustment to the loss of a great senior class now well represented in the NFL, took longer than we thought but now, much like last season and the playoffs, we have been crushing teams. This past weekend, a pretty good Missouri State team could only score 9 points at home – three field goals.

Best of luck to UND working through the discussions about whether a coaching change is warranted.  That’s a tough decision that impacts all of the teams in the conference.

Take your sdsu bull sh t out of here! Kidding, good post. I’ll be cheering for a jacks 3 peat. 

[JackJD]

5 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Take your sdsu bull sh t out of here! Kidding, good post. I’ll be cheering for a jacks 3 peat. 

Hey, I remember well all the years when SDSU couldn't buy a football win against both North Dakota schools.

 

 

 

[CMSioux]

27 minutes ago, JackJD said:

With NDSU, USD and SDSU all claiming a share of the conference title, the Sagarin rating was the conference’s agreed method for resolving which team could claim the automatic qualifier for the playoffs. The AQ had no bearing on the selection committee’s process for determining seeding and matchups.  Had NDSU won in Vermillion, or if SDSU had lost at Missouri State, the Sagarin rating would not have been a topic on any fan message board.

I think most SDSU fans recognize that SDSU playing DII Augustana and USD playing DII Northern State, were factors in the committee’s work. In SDSU’s case, the decision to play Augie was a late call – SDSU was contracted to host FCS (WAC) Utah Tech (formerly Dixie State out of St. George, UT) but Utah Tech backed out. I don’t know anything about USD’s scheduling decision but that decision took on added significance when Portland State cancelled USD’s game after USD flew in to Portland only to hear PSU's team had been exposed to pertussis (a fact PSU knew for a day or two before USD got on the plane)…it was likely USD would have won that game but instead ended up with one less DI game on its schedule.

It seems hard to argue with Montana State’s #1 seed or NDSU’s #2 seed based on win/loss and more detailed season stats. In my view, USD’s win over NDSU should have been a discussion point in the committee’s deliberations – should a losing team be seeded higher than a team that just beat them? -- but what weight was given to that point in light of other factors is beyond me. My guess is the committee thought a little about what could happen if the brackets permitted SDSU meeting NDSU in Frisco, a repeat of the 2022 game (boring to the rest of the country; or, if the brackets permitted SDSU playing USD in Frisco.  What is the interest in playoffs for fans whose favorite team is not located in Montana or one of the Dakotas?

I think you’ll find very little griping by SDSU fans about the bracket and seeding. Sure, there are some personal preferences about whether we end up in Fargo or Bozeman if we get through the preliminary rounds; but, I think the Jacks faithful take a note from our coach and the team: we’ll play anybody, anywhere. To get to Frisco means we have to go through some very good teams (cue the “last play” and “one game at a time” mantras).

Jacks fans are guardedly optimistic right now.  Since mid-season, the Jacks have looked like and played like the Jacks teams of the past couple of seasons. In some respects, we may be better.  The adjustment to the loss of a great senior class now well represented in the NFL, took longer than we thought but now, much like last season and the playoffs, we have been crushing teams. This past weekend, a pretty good Missouri State team could only score 9 points at home – three field goals.

Best of luck to UND working through the discussions about whether a coaching change is warranted.  That’s a tough decision that impacts all of the teams in the conference.

If SDSU makes it to Frisco this might be the year to take it in. Especially if Montana State is the opponent as there is another North Dakota connection then. If Moo U makes it I wouldn't drive that far to experience their attitudes.

[SiouxFan100]

At least ndsu has to get by SDSU to get to frisco 

[forksandspoons]

What ever happened to the NDSU player who tried to kill someone a couple months ago? Did he see his day in court? Hard to comb through all the Deion Sanders articles and TV ratings articles.

[HoopsFan03]

11 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

What ever happened to the NDSU player who tried to kill someone a couple months ago? Did he see his day in court? Hard to comb through all the Deion Sanders articles and TV ratings articles.

He’s back on the team

[FSSD]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

Take your sdsu bull sh t out of here! Kidding, good post. I’ll be cheering for a jacks 3 peat. 

I am going for a Yote vs Jacks final.

[FSSD]

1 hour ago, JackJD said:

With NDSU, USD and SDSU all claiming a share of the conference title, the Sagarin rating was the conference’s agreed method for resolving which team could claim the automatic qualifier for the playoffs. The AQ had no bearing on the selection committee’s process for determining seeding and matchups.  Had NDSU won in Vermillion, or if SDSU had lost at Missouri State, the Sagarin rating would not have been a topic on any fan message board.

I think most SDSU fans recognize that SDSU playing DII Augustana and USD playing DII Northern State, were factors in the committee’s work. In SDSU’s case, the decision to play Augie was a late call – SDSU was contracted to host FCS (WAC) Utah Tech (formerly Dixie State out of St. George, UT) but Utah Tech backed out. I don’t know anything about USD’s scheduling decision but that decision took on added significance when Portland State cancelled USD’s game after USD flew in to Portland only to hear PSU's team had been exposed to pertussis (a fact PSU knew for a day or two before USD got on the plane)…it was likely USD would have won that game but instead ended up with one less DI game on its schedule.

It seems hard to argue with Montana State’s #1 seed or NDSU’s #2 seed based on win/loss and more detailed season stats. In my view, USD’s win over NDSU should have been a discussion point in the committee’s deliberations – should a losing team be seeded higher than a team that just beat them? -- but what weight was given to that point in light of other factors is beyond me. My guess is the committee thought a little about what could happen if the brackets permitted SDSU meeting NDSU in Frisco, a repeat of the 2022 game (boring to the rest of the country; or, if the brackets permitted SDSU playing USD in Frisco.  What is the interest in playoffs for fans whose favorite team is not located in Montana or one of the Dakotas?

I think you’ll find very little griping by SDSU fans about the bracket and seeding. Sure, there are some personal preferences about whether we end up in Fargo or Bozeman if we get through the preliminary rounds; but, I think the Jacks faithful take a note from our coach and the team: we’ll play anybody, anywhere. To get to Frisco means we have to go through some very good teams (cue the “last play” and “one game at a time” mantras).

Jacks fans are guardedly optimistic right now.  Since mid-season, the Jacks have looked like and played like the Jacks teams of the past couple of seasons. In some respects, we may be better.  The adjustment to the loss of a great senior class now well represented in the NFL, took longer than we thought but now, much like last season and the playoffs, we have been crushing teams. This past weekend, a pretty good Missouri State team could only score 9 points at home – three field goals.

Best of luck to UND working through the discussions about whether a coaching change is warranted.  That’s a tough decision that impacts all of the teams in the conference.

As I stated on here previously, if those schools all agreed on how to break a tie given this exact scenario for the AQ.  Why wouldn't the conference rep carry those wishes to the commitee.  Why would the conference want the Big Sky and other conferences to have a decision?  All the other conference don't want the MVFC domination to continue.  They are simply looking out for their conferences best interests.  Have you even looked at the qaulifications of the committee members - what a scary group.    

In addition, IMO SDSU is playing the best football right now.  They look locked and loaded and why shouldn't they be the #2 team.  Winning in Fargo is not going to be easy and draggin the Bison down to Brookings in late Dec would be a much better match-up for SDSU.  The Big Sky and Montana St got exactly what they want.  SDSU their biggest threat going on the road in the semifinals.  I don't understand rewarding a team who !@#$ the bed when they could have won it all and claimed the #1 seed easly.  Did you see that secondary with multiple blown assignments? Players literally standing by themselves waiting for passes to reach them.  Coaching staff pissing there pants at crunch time.  Yep, let's give them the # 2 seed.

Again, my position #1 MSU, #2 SDSU, #3 USD and #4 NDSU

And all this BS about D-II scheduling is pure crap.  Teams in the NSIC, GLV or RMAC would beat 50% of the FCS.  This is FCS football we are talking about.  Maybe 50 of the 100 or so teams playing at this level care about football.  The formation of FCS football is for schools who care about other sports more than football and to parse D-II vs FCS teams is a fools errand.  Anyway cheering for a SDSU/USD Frisco final.  Let's see it happen.