The Portal - Basketball Edition

[sioux24/7]

The top possible transfers from the Summit, in my opinion are:

- Frankie Fidler

- Zeke Mayo

- William Kyle

- Andrew Morgan

- BJ Omot (entered)

Anyone I’m missing? There will be more that enter but these are the ones that could “move up”. 

[Hambone]

1 hour ago, forksandspoons said:

Odds that the NIL collective launches in time and offers him $100K to stay?? 

My assumption is that he's already been offered well north of that somewhere else.

[sioux24/7]

26 minutes ago, Hambone said:

My assumption is that he's already been offered well north of that somewhere else.

The way he looked for a lot of the game Sunday, I’d say you’re right. 

[McBuckets]

1 hour ago, SD UND said:

Unfortunately, he'll probably get more than that.... and be less happy in the long run, IMO

I guess I’m just confused by this statement here, it’s unfortunate that he is going to go get paid and make more money playing basketball than most people in this forum make in 2 years? To say he will be less happy in the long run is whatever thats your opinion and maybe it is right, but just dont see how it is unfortunate. I thought BJ had a great 2 years with the program and represented UND very well. Wish nothing but the best for him and hopefully he can be much happier in the long run.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, McBuckets said:

I guess I’m just confused by this statement here, it’s unfortunate that he is going to go get paid and make more money playing basketball than most people in this forum make in 2 years? To say he will be less happy in the long run is whatever thats your opinion and maybe it is right, but just dont see how it is unfortunate. I thought BJ had a great 2 years with the program and represented UND very well. Wish nothing but the best for him and hopefully he can be much happier in the long run.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence. I don't wish bad things on him, but I also don't plan on adopting whatever team he lands on either.

The risk for him is that he'll wind up sitting on the bench more than being on the court.

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, HoopsFan03 said:

And that is fair.

But as a grown adult to say that it is unfortunate that a 19-20 year old is getting offers well over $100,000 to play college basketball is just a very weird statement. Really strange behavior honestly. 

Good points.

[sioux24/7]

So with BJ in the portal, do we turn to Brody Fox? I don’t think he can just replace BJ but would play a similar role. Doubt he offers the defensive versatility that BJ did. Never seen the kid play so basing this off stats and some highlights. 

[McBuckets]

5 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

So with BJ in the portal, do we turn to Brody Fox? I don’t think he can just replace BJ but would play a similar role. Doubt he offers the defensive versatility that BJ did. Never seen the kid play so basing this off stats and some highlights. 

That could definitely be a good option, he can sure score the ball, doesn’t shot it well though. I know UND has reach out to him

[CMSioux]

There were several players that could actually take over a game in The Summit, BJ was not one of them. However in the next level they probably aren't looking for that.  As we have seen there is just as good of a chance he rides the bench. This is the new reality and it sucks. 

[SD UND]

3 hours ago, McBuckets said:

I guess I’m just confused by this statement here, it’s unfortunate that he is going to go get paid and make more money playing basketball than most people in this forum make in 2 years? To say he will be less happy in the long run is whatever thats your opinion and maybe it is right, but just dont see how it is unfortunate. I thought BJ had a great 2 years with the program and represented UND very well. Wish nothing but the best for him and hopefully he can be much happier in the long run.

 

2 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

And that is fair.

But as a grown adult to say that it is unfortunate that a 19-20 year old is getting offers well over $100,000 to play college basketball is just a very weird statement. Really strange behavior honestly. 

Don’t spin the comments into something they’re not boys.. let me break it down for you.

i used the word unfortunately to describe that “unfortunately, UND cannot afford to pay him that money”

”to be less happy in the long run” refers to the overwhelming reality in college basketball that it’s almost a guarantee that he plays significantly less minutes and has less of an impact… which later on in life i would bet the thought comes through his head “hmm maybe i shoulda just stayed”

 

Class dismissed

[McBuckets]

1 hour ago, SD UND said:

 

Don’t spin the comments into something they’re not boys.. let me break it down for you.

i used the word unfortunately to describe that “unfortunately, UND cannot afford to pay him that money”

”to be less happy in the long run” refers to the overwhelming reality in college basketball that it’s almost a guarantee that he plays significantly less minutes and has less of an impact… which later on in life i would bet the thought comes through his head “hmm maybe i shoulda just stayed”

 

Class dismissed

Should have said the part about UND not having the budget, I’m sure you can understand the confusion based on the rest of your post thinking you know what the correct decision is. I think everyone is making a lot of assumptions about his playing time next year when we dont even know what schools he is looking at, let alone what role will be asked of him. Maybe he takes less minutes next season but has an higher impact his senior season. Who knows. Maybe he goes to a team has less of an impact and less minutes but wins a conference championship or plays in March Madness doubt he will look back and say hmm maybe I should’ve stayed.

[McBuckets]

What do you think Filip Rebraca has to say about transferring out? Took a lesser role his first year, stats all went down, but then got a bigger role his senior year. Played in march madness both years, won the big 10 one year. Got to experience playing against many different NBA players and in top college facilities across the country 

[SD UND]

37 minutes ago, McBuckets said:

What do you think Filip Rebraca has to say about transferring out? Took a lesser role his first year, stats all went down, but then got a bigger role his senior year. Played in march madness both years, won the big 10 one year. Got to experience playing against many different NBA players and in top college facilities across the country 

I would argue that Filip is a better player than bj. And played 4 years at UND and graduated.

im not saying there aren’t instances where it’s a great decision.

 

im saying there are way more instances where it’s a net negative for literally everyone involved 

[McBuckets]

37 minutes ago, SD UND said:

I would argue that Filip is a better player than bj. And played 4 years at UND and graduated.

im not saying there aren’t instances where it’s a great decision.

 

im saying there are way more instances where it’s a net negative for literally everyone involved 

Same with Geno, he was probably happy with his decision.

It may work out it may not. I’m just not going to tell him what he should or shouldn’t do and act like I know best based on my opinion on the changing landscape of college athletics. Obviously I wish he would stay but not going to fault a kid for leaving to get paid and pursue a different opportunity elsewhere especially when there have been several UND athletes who have done the same thing and had success.

[SD UND]

47 minutes ago, McBuckets said:

Same with Geno, he was probably happy with his decision.

It may work out it may not. I’m just not going to tell him what he should or shouldn’t do and act like I know best based on my opinion on the changing landscape of college athletics. Obviously I wish he would stay but not going to fault a kid for leaving to get paid and pursue a different opportunity elsewhere especially when there have been several UND athletes who have done the same thing and had success.

Sure. We probably have different opinions about the current landscape of college athletics. I hate it. I think there are better ways for players to “get paid” rather than just open the floodgates and have the rich get richer and the low and mid major teams suffer for finding kids that the big dogs wouldn’t sniff at in recruiting. We have a worse product because of it.

 

im not faulting BJ, if I would have his opportunity, it would be insane to turn down 100k plus. 
 

But i don’t like what it does for the summit league and UND

[CMSioux]

9 hours ago, McBuckets said:

What do you think Filip Rebraca has to say about transferring out? Took a lesser role his first year, stats all went down, but then got a bigger role his senior year. Played in march madness both years, won the big 10 one year. Got to experience playing against many different NBA players and in top college facilities across the country 

Flip left because UND did not offer the grad school major he needed, easier to ask a little tougher questions when the reason for leaving is money. Agreed it's his life, his choice and we can assume conversations were probably already happening before the season was over. 

[homer]

5 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Let's not get it twisted.

BJ is NOT just "leaving for the money". Sure, the money part is a nice added bonus for moving up a level. But that is not the reason BJ is leaving so not sure what the "tougher questions" are that you feel need to be asked. 

Opportunity for money is playing no part in it?  

[The Sicatoka]

Bet he ends up closer to home (Mankato). 

[GoodGood]

Keep hearing UND fans talk about grass isn’t always greener and he’ll take a lesser role blah blah blah. Let’s look at the most recent D1 transfers for UND

DAE - First team All Big West

Moody - First team All Big Sky

Rebraca - 3rd team All Big 10

Ethan E - played 26 mpg at CSUN 

Tyree - started 60% of games at JMU, including 7 of last 8 games played. Just couldn’t stay healthy 

Paul Bruns - transferred to be closer to home, starting on a Summit League team 

Only player it didn’t work out for is Seybian Sims. Still not sure how he even ended up at another D1 program. Let me know if I’m forgetting someone but 6 for 7 or 85% found success at their new homes. Sorry if this defeats your narrative that people can’t have success outside of UND. 

[sioux24/7]

Not sure if anyone else listens to 3 Man Weave but I think they have a great idea when it comes to MM players transferring to P6 schools. If BJ ends up at Minnesota, Minnesota would have to play in GF this year. A sort of trade off. Never going to happen, but I like it. 

[SD UND]

Just now, GoodGood said:

Keep hearing UND fans talk about grass isn’t always greener and he’ll take a lesser role blah blah blah. Let’s look at the most recent D1 transfers for UND

DAE - First team All Big West

Moody - First team All Big Sky

Rebraca - 3rd team All Big 10

Ethan E - played 26 mpg at CSUN 

Tyree - started 60% of games at JMU, including 7 of last 8 games played. Just couldn’t stay healthy 

Paul Bruns - transferred to be closer to home, starting on a Summit League team 

Only player it didn’t work out for is Seybian Sims. Still not sure how he even ended up at another D1 program. Let me know if I’m forgetting someone but 6 for 7 or 85% found success at their new homes. Sorry if this defeats your narrative that people can’t have success outside of UND. 

DAE and Moody are laughable to use as examples. It took both of those clowns 3-4 years AFTER leaving UND and two schools each to figure it out.

 

Sorry if that hurts your feeling guys, as you both still read this.

[UND1983]

1 minute ago, SD UND said:

DAE and Moody are laughable to use as examples. It took both of those clowns 3-4 years AFTER leaving UND and two schools each to figure it out.

 

Sorry if that hurts your feeling guys, as you both still read this.

lol exactly.  Babysit those two for 3 more years to get a one-time all conf player.   

[sioux24/7]

3 minutes ago, SD UND said:

DAE and Moody are laughable to use as examples. It took both of those clowns 3-4 years AFTER leaving UND and two schools each to figure it out.

 

Sorry if that hurts your feeling guys, as you both still read this.

Bingo.

Rebraca was successful but was on record saying he didn’t plan on transferring but had to. 

Igbaunago meh his time was over here. Averaged more here anyways but let’s not act like we were hurt by him leaving. 

Tyree come on he asked to come back. Couldn’t find success with JMU. Maybe due to injury but either way. 

Bruns got to go home, cool. Not much winning happening there and would say his freshman year was his best year, likely due to volume since we sucked. 
 

[SD UND]

11 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Keep hearing UND fans talk about grass isn’t always greener and he’ll take a lesser role blah blah blah. Let’s look at the most recent D1 transfers for UND

DAE - First team All Big West

Moody - First team All Big Sky

Rebraca - 3rd team All Big 10

Ethan E - played 26 mpg at CSUN 

Tyree - started 60% of games at JMU, including 7 of last 8 games played. Just couldn’t stay healthy 

Paul Bruns - transferred to be closer to home, starting on a Summit League team 

Only player it didn’t work out for is Seybian Sims. Still not sure how he even ended up at another D1 program. Let me know if I’m forgetting someone but 6 for 7 or 85% found success at their new homes. Sorry if this defeats your narrative that people can’t have success outside of UND. 

Rebraca- played 4 years at UND, graduated- no problem with him leaving especially with his academic goals he had for his last two years

Ethan- was at UND for 5 years!!!! - Graduated, it was time to move on

Tyree- it was so good at JMU for Tyree that he transferred back to UND.

Paul Bruns- 9th place team in Summit league

 

Andrew Rohde- Freshman of year in Summit- transfers to Virginia- averages 4.4 ppg on an average ACC team that probably won't make the NCCA tournament- fun! I'm sure he loves it

The guys that it has worked out for are the guys that have stayed 3-4 years and then go play their SR year in the P5 conferences (I.e Griesel, Scheierman, Nelson (I guess you can call this successful? He probably has hurt his "Draft Stock" more than helped it though)

[forksandspoons]

I think i saw that BJ has siblings at the U of M, so I wouldn’t blame him if he ends up there. It’s definitely a bummer as he could have set records here and been on top of the league for the next to years, but I will be watching him in the future and hoping he does well! What some of you are leaving out is his defensive ability. It made a major leap this year and was extremely valuable.