2024 UND Football

[shep]

7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I think that fr we're bringing in is pretty solid and a strong runner.

The Wisconsin kid?

[geaux_sioux]

25 minutes ago, shep said:

The Wisconsin kid?

Yup

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 hours ago, CMSioux said:

Feeny is ready. Portal needs to focus on defense.

was ready u mean...............

[Sioux>Bison]

3 hours ago, AJS said:

I’d be happy w/ one OL / WR. Not sure how I feel about a RB. Happy with 20, 28, 29. Do agree you could always use a solid 4th. Not sure if you’d upset the current RB room though.

Key word “power” RB. Z is the only power RB on the roster. Wouldn’t mind having a walk on beef filling that spot.

going to need to find a replacement for Quincy once he graduates

[Goose15]

On 12/5/2023 at 7:35 PM, Goose15 said:

Their offense is not why they are winning this year! Without their defense they are an average team. 

I am glad South Dakota's great offense after 1 year showed up to play today... Oh wait it is against NDSU though and apparently we can't count games against them according to some on here. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 hour ago, Goose15 said:

I am glad South Dakota's great offense after 1 year showed up to play today... Oh wait it is against NDSU though and apparently we can't count games against them according to some on here. 

Why are you so enthralled with Danny’s "2 yard pass and a cloud of dust" offense?    It was poor in almost every big game we had this season.

[Goose15]

17 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Why are you so enthralled with Danny’s "2 yard pass and a cloud of dust" offense?    It was poor in almost every big game we had this season.

The same offense that scored more points against NDSU than South Dakota did in two games? The same offense that works around the strengths of its QB? We certainly didn't push the ball down field every play, but that's not the strength of our offense. I am glad that "dust" allowed us to be a top scoring offense again this year. (24th in the FCS)

[Goose15]

29 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Why are you so enthralled with Danny’s "2 yard pass and a cloud of dust" offense?    It was poor in almost every big game we had this season.

Or maybe you would prefer to hire back Paul Rudolph? 

[Midwestern Hawk]

Just now, Goose15 said:

The same offense that scored more points against NDSU than South Dakota did in two games? The same offense that works around the strengths of its QB? We certainly didn't push the ball down field every play, but that's not the strength of our offense. I am glad that "dust" allowed us to be a top scoring offense again this year. (24th in the FCS)

Am I conversing with Danny's dad?  How did it go vs Boise St?  @SDSU? @UNI? @USD?  even Sac St when it mattered?  Let me know will you?  It's not like this is the first year of this "2 yards and a cloud of dust offense"...

How many times over the years has Danny out thought himself and done some ridiculous trick play(which fails badly) when we could have just run the ball?  I'm not saying that the offense was worse than the defense this year, but often the biggest problem with a bad defense is the offense can't dominate TOP and/or gets behind a TD or two before it starts moving the ball.

[Midwestern Hawk]

7 minutes ago, Goose15 said:

Or maybe you would prefer to hire back Paul Rudolph? 

So that is our choices?  Two yards and a cloud of dust through the air or on the ground?  Is that what you are saying?  No designed QB runs?, no TE routes?  rare deep throws?  Just swing passes, WR screens and running the ball until we start to dominate on the ground and then mysteriously decide to throw?

[Goose15]

4 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

So that is our choices?  Two yards and a cloud of dust through the air or on the ground?  Is that what you are saying?

I am simply saying, Danny is maximizing the QB he has. He isn't perfect, but is far from the problem. Next year when we have a QB who is more confident throwing down the field, let's talk about this 2 yards offense. If you want to can the guy who is the only reason we were a decent team this year, be my guest. 

[Sioux94]

8 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

So that is our choices?  Two yards and a cloud of dust through the air or on the ground?  Is that what you are saying?  No designed QB runs?, no TE routes?  rare deep throws?  Just swing passes, WR screens and running the ball until we start to dominate on the ground and then mysteriously decide to throw?

There have been some head scratchers on offense a few times for sure this year, and as I mentioned earlier in one post Danny's shine has dimmed some and I was flat out pissed at the offense a few times this year. Next year with a bigger arm and more mobile QB in Feeney or Jerry we will see what he can do. If the offense is still run the same way with either of those two under center....a change may be needed.

[Midwestern Hawk]

9 minutes ago, Goose15 said:

I am simply saying, Danny is maximizing the QB he has. He isn't perfect, but is far from the problem. Next year when we have a QB who is more confident throwing down the field, let's talk about this 2 yards offense. If you want to can the guy who is the only reason we were a decent team this year, be my guest. 

If you are correct and either of the other two guys are that much better than Tommy, doesn't that bring up a myriad of other problems?  I have gotten really excited about this program a few times over the last half decade only to have some very poor coaching usually bring my excitement to an abrupt halt.

[SIOUXFAN97]

20 minutes ago, Goose15 said:

Or maybe you would prefer to hire back Paul Rudolph? 

i would maybe b ok with that

[Sioux94]

17 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i would maybe b ok with that

Ummm No

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Ummm No

haha i said....maybe.......i remember watcing the poly game in 2016 and watching keaton hit clives on a play action 100% in stride for the dagger td and thinking "hell yeah rudy"........maybe he didn't have the resources (oline) to effectively do his job?

[Goose15]

9 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

If you are correct and either of the other two guys are that much better than Tommy, doesn't that bring up a myriad of other problems?  I have gotten really excited about this program a few times over the last half decade only to have some very poor coaching usually bring my excitement to an abrupt halt.

Like what? The guy who looks to be next in line was redshirted so we don't stunt his development? We see the talent we have recruited since our offense has gotten better take off this year as red shirt freshman? Everyone expects a quick fix but considering what he took over to what he has built, recruits are now starting to take notice. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 minute ago, Goose15 said:

Like what? The guy who looks to be next in line was redshirted so we don't stunt his development? We see the talent we have recruited since our offense has gotten better take off this year as red shirt freshman? Everyone expects a quick fix but considering what he took over to what he has built, recruits are now starting to take notice. 

How long has Danny been the OC?

[Sioux94]

23 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

haha i said....maybe.......i remember watcing the poly game in 2016 and watching keaton hit clives on a play action 100% in stride for the dagger td and thinking "hell yeah rudy"........maybe he didn't have the resources (oline) to effectively do his job?

Rudy certainly would do much better with the current team and he current OL, but I'd still take Danny easily. If we don't open it up more though next year with a different QB my mind might change. 

 

Also ai think it will be important for both Trey and Feeney to be ready.....so that we aren't afraid to call some QB runs.... because we know we have another guy totally capable of coming in and running the offense. 

The major story line I think all off-season will be who is going to win the starting job....and who we bring in and how much improvement do wee see on the DL and OLB spots. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Rudy certainly would do much better with the current team and he current OL, but I'd still take Danny easily. If we don't open it up more though next year with a different QB my mind might change. 

 

Also ai think it will be important for both Trey and Feeney to be ready.....so that we aren't afraid to call some QB runs.... because we know we have another guy totally capable of coming in and running the offense. 

The major story line I think all off-season will be who is going to win the starting job....and who we bring in and how much improvement do wee see on the DL and OLB spots. 

u mean jerry feeney and trey kaminski haha?

[UND Football Fan]

In my opinion. One similarity between Danny and Rudy is the reliance of a play concept. Danny we complain about the different versions of the short passing game, and Rudy I recall his use of  different versions if  the toss sweep run game. 

[Goose15]

On 12/9/2023 at 5:20 PM, Midwestern Hawk said:

How long has Danny been the OC?

Great comeback! We all know Danny has been OC for five years. In that time frame Danny has made us a good offense.  (Fringe top 20 overall scoring offense the last two years.) I know you want us to be elite after one year, like USD became this year but that's not how things work. It would be one thing if our previous OC retired or took a job elsewhere, but when the dude was fired it means you needed to build some things back up, which Danny did in his first three years to give us a good offense.  Now that we have a solid base, recruits on that side of the ball our starting to take notice.  You don't get recruits like Kaminski, Tai, Seidl, and others if you aren't doing something right.  Recruiting is one of the most important things to building a team and over Danny's five years our recruiting has made noticeable improvements.  Some of us talk about how many offers a kid has and I made a post a while back, that shows roughly 75% of this last year's freshman class and our incoming class this year all had at least one division 1 offer.  Lastly, I want to touch on the notion that Danny can't coach offense in games against good competition.  Last year we scored 29 against UNI, 48 on Missouri State when they were ranked #7, 35 on the road against YSU, 35 on SDSU!!  This year the games that everyone brings up are Boise, SDSU, UNI and South Dakota.  In the games against Boise, UNI and South Dakota, Tommy had a handful of plays that changed the game not in our favor. Against Boise he fumbles before half. Against UNI he fumbles on the opening drive deep in UNI territory. Against South Dakota he floats up a duck on a deep shot to Quincy that gets picked.  These are all plays that I don't see our next QB making. We also moved the ball in all three of those games, so it wasn't like every drive was a 3 and out.  I understand people are sick of waiting for us to take that next step.  Some on here think our offense has lost it's shine, but to me it is more a product of Bubba not being able to take this team any further and our defense not improving that takes the shine off our program.  Danny unlike Bubba has shown improvement in his time!

[Goose15]

31 minutes ago, Goose15 said:

Great comeback! We all know Danny has been OC for five years. In that time frame Danny has made us a good offense.  (Fringe top 20 overall scoring offense the last two years.) I know you want us to be elite after one year, like USD became this year but that's not how things work. It would be one thing if our previous OC retired or took a job elsewhere, but when the dude was fired it means you needed to build some things back up, which Danny did in his first three years to give us a good offense.  Now that we have a solid base, recruits on that side of the ball our starting to take notice.  You don't get recruits like Kaminski, Tai, Seidl, and others if you aren't doing something right.  Recruiting is one of the most important things to building a team and over Danny's five years our recruiting has made noticeable improvements.  Some of us talk about how many offers a kid has and I made a post a while back, that shows roughly 75% of this last year's freshman class and our incoming class this year all had at least one division 1 offer.  Lastly, I want to touch on the notion that Danny can't coach offense in games against good competition.  Last year we scored 29 against UNI, 48 on Missouri State when they were ranked #7, 35 on the road against YSU, 35 on SDSU!!  This year the games that everyone brings up are Boise, SDSU, UNI and South Dakota.  In the games against Boise, UNI and South Dakota, Tommy had a handful of plays that changed the game not in our favor. Against Boise he fumbles before half. Against UNI he fumbles on the opening drive deep in UNI territory. Against South Dakota he floats up a duck on a deep shot to Quincy that gets picked.  These are all plays that I don't see our next QB making. We also moved the ball in all three of those games, so it wasn't like every drive was a 3 and out.  I understand people are sick of waiting for us to take that next step.  Some on here think our offense has lost it's shine, but to me it is more a product of Bubba not being able to take this team any further and our defense not improving that takes the shine off our program.  Danny unlike Bubba has shown improvement in his time!

One thing I left out with recruiting too.  Look at what has happened with our OL!  Yes, Pawlak is a big part of that, but who do you think was a key part of getting him on staff? We have Waletzko in the NFL. Kilty has some big time FBS offers.  Again, it doesn't happen over night but you give a coach some time to have some success and look what happens. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Goose15 said:

Great comeback! We all know Danny has been OC for five years. In that time frame Danny has made us a good offense.  (Fringe top 20 overall scoring offense the last two years.) I know you want us to be elite after one year, like USD became this year but that's not how things work. It would be one thing if our previous OC retired or took a job elsewhere, but when the dude was fired it means you needed to build some things back up, which Danny did in his first three years to give us a good offense.  Now that we have a solid base, recruits on that side of the ball our starting to take notice.  You don't get recruits like Kaminski, Tai, Seidl, and others if you aren't doing something right.  Recruiting is one of the most important things to building a team and over Danny's five years our recruiting has made noticeable improvements.  Some of us talk about how many offers a kid has and I made a post a while back, that shows roughly 75% of this last year's freshman class and our incoming class this year all had at least one division 1 offer.  Lastly, I want to touch on the notion that Danny can't coach offense in games against good competition.  Last year we scored 29 against UNI, 48 on Missouri State when they were ranked #7, 35 on the road against YSU, 35 on SDSU!!  This year the games that everyone brings up are Boise, SDSU, UNI and South Dakota.  In the games against Boise, UNI and South Dakota, Tommy had a handful of plays that changed the game not in our favor. Against Boise he fumbles before half. Against UNI he fumbles on the opening drive deep in UNI territory. Against South Dakota he floats up a duck on a deep shot to Quincy that gets picked.  These are all plays that I don't see our next QB making. We also moved the ball in all three of those games, so it wasn't like every drive was a 3 and out.  I understand people are sick of waiting for us to take that next step.  Some on here think our offense has lost it's shine, but to me it is more a product of Bubba not being able to take this team any further and our defense not improving that takes the shine off our program.  Danny unlike Bubba has shown improvement in his time!

I agree with you. The offense figures to only get better. The problem with this team is the defense, which I never thought would happen with our program.

[gundy1124]

51 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I agree with you. The offense figures to only get better. The problem with this team is the defense, which I never thought would happen with our program.

If we're going to hype up the Jets as unstoppable again heading into 2024 they better actually run by someone.