Popular Post brianvf Posted March 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:05 PM, Kevin G said: I guess I'm not seeing how moving to Omaha (or Des Moines or Sioux Falls) fixes the problems we're seeing in the Twin Cities. Expand Agreed. On-campus sites is the future IMO. 7 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 and call me crazy but take this a little further........the regional in Fargo this week should be at Mariucci too....KEEP EM ON CAMPUS! keom! Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:15 PM, brianvf said: Agreed. On-campus sites is the future IMO. Expand can you slide over to the basketball side and post this "on campus" mentality please!!!!! keom Quote
siouxweet Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 6:30 PM, MafiaMan said: The conference tourney currently IS the Frozen Faceoff. Are you suggesting that St Cloud State would host next year’s tournament because they won it this year? If so, interesting idea… Expand That would mean UND would never get to host it Quote
SiouxFanatic Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 With UND’s lack of success at the Frozen Faceoff and the overall cost to going, I don’t think it’s tenable for the NCHC to keep relying on UND fans each year to show up. UND should turn full heel and demand that Grand Forks hosts the Frozen Faceoff every year! We are already hated, might as well double down. 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 if and when we go to the big10 format... do we have four best of 3 gamers in the first round on campus or do we give the top two seeds the weekend off before they host the next round on campus (big 10 gives the conference winner a bye to the second round and then they get to play the lowest seed to advance from weekend 1...bc they have an odd number of members with the other und)? Quote
johnsowe Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 Ok Reg season champ host torny.....first round best of 3 second round the frozen four at the reg season champs place. Unless the NCHC adds MSU and ASU or another big fan base. The final five worked because you had 2 big fan bases UND and UM add WIS and the rest you have a good base to fill the X. NCHC has UND and............ and the rest. Location helps too. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:12 PM, johnsowe said: Ok Reg season champ host torny.....first round best of 3 second round the frozen four at the reg season champs place. Unless the NCHC adds MSU and ASU or another big fan base. The final five worked because you had 2 big fan bases UND and UM add WIS and the rest you have a good base to fill the X. NCHC has UND and............ and the rest. Location helps too. Expand do you give the top seed a bye bc if you don't and they lose in the first round...........big 10 model is the way to go... keoc Quote
siouxweet Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 How long is the agreement with the X to host this tourney? Quote
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2023 Can UND just join the Big 10? 2 3 Quote
Sweethockey Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:26 PM, siouxweet said: How long is the agreement with the X to host this tourney? Expand The partnership will keep the NCHC’s championship weekend in Saint Paul through at least 2025. .....They signed a 3 year extension last year. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:28 PM, Oxbow6 said: Can UND just join the Big 10? Expand If they would make it worth our while ($$$$$), I would at least be open to it. But they are too stuck up and snobbish to "lower themselves to our level", so I think the odds of it happening are very remote. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:31 PM, Sweethockey said: The partnership will keep the NCHC’s championship weekend in Saint Paul through at least 2025. .....They signed a 3 year extension last year. Expand That sounds very familiar. Where have I recently heard about a three year contract exte............oh yeah, different thread. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:28 PM, Oxbow6 said: Can UND just join the Big 10? Expand are they looking for an eighth being an afilliate or waiting for an existing school to add it..? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:36 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: are they looking for an eighth being an afilliate or waiting for an existing school to add it..? Expand If the $$$$$ was right, it would merit thoughtful consideration. But I don't see that happening. Quote
tnt Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 8:05 PM, Kevin G said: I guess I'm not seeing how moving to Omaha (or Des Moines or Sioux Falls) fixes the problems we're seeing in the Twin Cities. Expand Exactly. Part of the reason the Twin Cities works at all for us even is because of how many UND fans live in the Cities. Don’t think that is the case for either Des Moines or Sioux Falls. 2 Quote
nd jg Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 The biggest reason the old final 5 format was successful is 9 of the 12 schools were within a 6 hr drive to the cites. So worse case any year is you had half the schools that close save AA. DU, OR CC. ( Fans could drive down if they chose and didn't need a flight. The loss if UM, UW, MT, MSUM, BSU took out those fan bases. Now half the schools need to fly. The only way to get back to a full house is on campus. 4 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:28 PM, Oxbow6 said: Can UND just join the Big 10? Expand Something needs to change, to inject life into the program. It's gotten "satisfied". And there'd be lots to negotiate (only Fri/Sat home games; keep regional cable deal). But I fear that DU and ASU are on the list ahead of UND if there is a list. Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 20, 2023 Author Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 12:21 AM, nd jg said: The biggest reason the old final 5 format was successful is 9 of the 12 schools were within a 6 hr drive to the cites. So worse case any year is you had half the schools that close save AA. DU, OR CC. ( Fans could drive down if they chose and didn't need a flight. The loss of UM, UW, MT, MSUM, BSU took out those fan bases. Now half the schools need to fly. Expand The handful of Michigan Tech, UW, MSUM, and BSU fans who made the trip or alumni locals who attended the games was pretty minuscule to the amount of Gopher fans there. The biggest loss to the tournament — and it isn’t even close — was Minnesota. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 1:10 PM, MafiaMan said: The biggest loss to the tournament — and it isn’t even close — was Minnesota. Expand Reality: The X is Goldy's alternate home site. Proof of @MafiaManposit? Mary's-ucci was full Saturday night. In the WCHA days that would've been the X. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 12:54 PM, The Sicatoka said: Something needs to change, to inject life into the program. It's gotten "satisfied". And there'd be lots to negotiate (only Fri/Sat home games; keep regional cable deal). But I fear that DU and ASU are on the list ahead of UND if there is a list. Expand ASU.........maybe. But the snobs that run the B1G will never admit a small, private school like Denver. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 1:36 PM, fightingsioux4life said: ASU.........maybe. But the snobs that run the B1G will never admit a small, private school like Denver. Expand The B1G academic snobs would take DU over ASU or UND. Each of the three has plusses and minuses. Quote
Dustin Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 Joining the conversation late, but yes, I agree that watching the Big Ten championship with a full house was more interesting than watching the NCHC championship game. I would now be in favor of moving to campus sites. I never attended the Final Five in person, but I would watch every game (even the Thursday play-in) with anticipation and the energy of the crowd was palpable. Without the passionate (and large) Gophers and Badgers fanbases (plus decades of cultivated rivalries), the Frozen Faceoff just can't be the Final Five. As for joining the Big Ten, consider me intrigued on certain levels, but having UND's showcase sport in a conference that would only treat that sport as high as #3 would mean we would get some raw deals, IMO. A neutral site Big Ten conference tournament with UND in it would probably work, actually. Not to say that it should go that way. The NCHC would no doubt flounder without UND, so staying an alpha probably wins out. I wouldn't mind seeing more across the board NCHC / Big Ten out-of-conference matchups, though (like the ACC / Big Ten basketball challenges they do before conference seasons start). The geographical footprint is the pretty much the same, so I think there would be mutual interest. Miami can tell a recruit, "yeah, we go west for conference games, but we also play Michigan, Ohio State, and Notre Dame in the next 3 seasons." Likewise, UND can tell recruits that Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan are on their schedule. I'll probably have more thoughts to come on this. 1 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 1:52 PM, Dustin said: Joining the conversation late, but yes, I agree that watching the Big Ten championship with a full house was more interesting than watching the NCHC championship game. I would now be in favor of moving to campus sites. I never attended the Final Five in person, but I would watch every game (even the Thursday play-in) with anticipation and the energy of the crowd was palpable. Without the passionate (and large) Gophers and Badgers fanbases (plus decades of cultivated rivalries), the Frozen Faceoff just can't be the Final Five. As for joining the Big Ten, consider me intrigued on certain levels, but having UND's showcase sport in a conference that would only treat that sport as high as #3 would mean we would get some raw deals, IMO. A neutral site Big Ten conference tournament with UND in it would probably work, actually. Not to say that it should go that way. The NCHC would no doubt flounder without UND, so staying an alpha probably wins out. I wouldn't mind seeing more across the board NCHC / Big Ten out-of-conference matchups, though (like the ACC / Big Ten basketball challenges they do before conference seasons start). The geographical footprint is the pretty much the same, so I think there would be mutual interest. Miami can tell a recruit, "yeah, we go west for conference games, but we also play Michigan, Ohio State, and Notre Dame in the next 3 seasons." Likewise, UND can tell recruits that Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan are on their schedule. I'll probably have more thoughts to come on this. Expand Yet we keep bringing in Quinnipiac, Niagra, and Lindenwood in OOC games? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 2:58 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: Yet we keep bringing in Quinnipiac, Niagra, and Lindenwood in OOC games? Expand You need those games for PWR comps across conferences ... assuming you win them. 1 Quote
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