tnt Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 6:05 PM, Sweethockey said: Agreed on the reset.. Remember last fall? Judd won the Ironman? Reflect on that! I would be more optimistic if we cleaned house and went back to developing young talent. Total rebuild, we have a crappy front half of the season next year- so be it. Expand Guess I don’t see a total rebuild as necessary. St. Cloud was disappointing last year, but they brought in Anhorn and Basse and kept around some veterans and although they have fallen off since Anhorn’s injury they are top ten pairwise. Quote
Kevin G Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 6:24 PM, tnt said: Guess I don’t see a total rebuild as necessary. St. Cloud was disappointing last year, but they brought in Anhorn and Basse and kept around some veterans and although they have fallen off since Anhorn’s injury they are top ten pairwise. Expand Goaltending and defense might take some time to round into shape, but UND should have a terrific group of forwards to build around. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 6:24 PM, tnt said: Guess I don’t see a total rebuild as necessary. St. Cloud was disappointing last year, but they brought in Anhorn and Basse and kept around some veterans and although they have fallen off since Anhorn’s injury they are top ten pairwise. Expand We need to move on from the five and six year players and get our incoming recruits to campus. Time to start developing our own talent again. Quote
brianvf Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:12 PM, fightingsioux4life said: We need to move on from the five and six year players and get our incoming recruits to campus. Time to start developing our own talent again. Expand I agree for the most part. If anyone comes back, I think it needs to be only for impact players. For example...getting Frisch back would be an enormous plus for our backend next season. And, I think we're a better team next season if Caulfield returns too. Rather than pickup two portal goalies, I'd like to see Hedquist come to campus and one portal goalie...have those two rotate until one moves into the #1 spot. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/dylan-james-shows-nhl-elite-speed-in-two-goal-game-against-omaha Quote "I felt fast today," James said. "Hopefully that will stay the same tomorrow. More confidence at the end of the season. You're playing to win. We just need to keep climbing the ranks here." James has been at his best in recent games. He generated three Grade-A scoring chances against Colorado College last Saturday, but was unable to finish on them. "He's playing with confidence," UND coach Brad Berry said. "We all know he has NHL elite speed, right? At the end of the day, as a freshman coming in here, sometimes, it's a little overwhelming just getting acclimated to the game, knowing how much time you have when you have the puck on your tape. Sometimes, the game overwhelms a young guy a little bit, because it's so tight-checking in our league. "But now he knows when to chip a puck. He knows when to hang onto a puck. Man, he's a threat off the rush going around defenders. Now he's starting to play with confidence." Expand Quote Jackson Blake has a shot to win the NCHC's scoring title. He enters the final night of the regular season with 29 conference points. He's tied with St. Cloud State's Jami Krannila, one point behind Denver's Massimo Rizzo. For the second-straight game, UND's faceoff numbers turned around big-time at the end of the game. At one point, Omaha led in draws 20-10. But UND finished the game going 25-12 in the dot over the final 34 minutes. UND heavily relied upon its top four defensemen. Tyler Kleven, Chris Jandric, Ethan Frisch and Ryan Sidorski were all over 22 minutes. Farmer was at 13:23. Cooper Moore was at 13:14. Expand Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:25 PM, brianvf said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/dylan-james-shows-nhl-elite-speed-in-two-goal-game-against-omaha Expand Rizzo? #wedidntwanthim 1 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:29 PM, Oxbow6 said: Rizzo? #wedidntwanthim Expand Wait, I thought he didn’t want us? 2 Quote
tnt Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:12 PM, fightingsioux4life said: We need to move on from the five and six year players and get our incoming recruits to campus. Time to start developing our own talent again. Expand The last time we had an off season, we did a combination, getting Westin Michaud and then bringing in Pinto. If we go totally young, you would be the first calling for change when the growing pains last longer than envisioned. Remember the growing pains Minnesota had with their young defensive group when we put one on them years ago at Thanksgiving. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:07 PM, tnt said: The last time we had an off season, we did a combination, getting Westin Michaud and then bringing in Pinto. If we go totally young, you would be the first calling for change when the growing pains last longer than envisioned. Remember the growing pains Minnesota had with their young defensive group when we put one on them years ago at Thanksgiving. Expand No, I would not be the first to be calling for changes. A young team struggling is normal, a team with a bunch of veteran players struggling is a lot harder to accept. 1 Quote
tnt Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:13 PM, fightingsioux4life said: No, I would not be the first to be calling for changes. A young team struggling is normal, a team with a bunch of veteran players struggling is a lot harder to accept. Expand If you don’t use the portal some, like Denver has, you are going to have holes in your lineup from year to year, and you won’t be making the tourney every year, which you have stated time and again should be the expectation. Portals don’t always work out, but then again freshmen sometime take two years or so to make an impact. Would rather fill a hole here and there with someone who has already made an impact at the college level. Quote
Kevin G Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:29 PM, tnt said: If you don’t use the portal some, like Denver has, you are going to have holes in your lineup from year to year, and you won’t be making the tourney every year, which you have stated time and again should be the expectation. Portals don’t always work out, but then again freshmen sometime take two years or so to make an impact. Would rather fill a hole here and there with someone who has already made an impact at the college level. Expand A successful program can do both things: develop freshman talent and use the portal (not often but strategically). 1 Quote
nodakgirl93 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:49 PM, Blackheart said: Wait, I thought he didn’t want us? Expand He indeed left us. Quote
Blackheart Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:36 PM, nodakgirl93 said: He indeed left us. Expand We’re we trying to convince him to play another year of juniors? Quote
nodakgirl93 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:29 PM, tnt said: If you don’t use the portal some, like Denver has, you are going to have holes in your lineup from year to year, and you won’t be making the tourney every year, which you have stated time and again should be the expectation. Portals don’t always work out, but then again freshmen sometime take two years or so to make an impact. Would rather fill a hole here and there with someone who has already made an impact at the college level. Expand The portal is still relatively new. Most players transferring had to sit out a year before the covid thing happened. Quote
nodakgirl93 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:37 PM, Blackheart said: We’re we trying to convince him to play another year of juniors? Expand Rizzo or Spicer? Rizzo was already on the incoming freshman list and had hockey gear with his name and number. He was all set to come to campus. Quote
Kevin G Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:37 PM, Blackheart said: We’re we trying to convince him to play another year of juniors? Expand No, not according to the best info I've found. The coaches fully expected him to arrive on campus in the summer/fall of 2021. Even had equipment with his name on it. Quote
Blackheart Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 He scored in the title game last year against Mankato. Shi+! Quote
Blackheart Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:41 PM, nodakgirl93 said: Rizzo or Spicer? Rizzo was already on the incoming freshman list and had hockey gear with his name and number. He was all set to come to campus. Expand Why did he break up with us? Quote
tnt Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:33 PM, Kevin G said: A successful program can do both things: develop freshman talent and use the portal (not often but strategically). Expand Right, that’s why I said a combination. I liken the transfer portal to the trade deadline in the NHL, you have the core of your team, but fill in the gaps and add to your depth. If you aren’t using the trade deadline, you are most likely not going to be a contender. The trade deadline also shows how important guys that play important roles and are hard to play against are. That is the type of guy Tampa Bay has brought in for their Stanley Cup runs. Give me a guy like Sidorski anytime. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:45 PM, tnt said: Right, that’s why I said a combination. I liken the transfer portal to the trade deadline in the NHL, you have the core of your team, but fill in the gaps and add to your depth. If you aren’t using the trade deadline, you are most likely not going to be a contender. The trade deadline also shows how important guys that play important roles and are hard to play against are. That is the type of guy Tampa Bay has brought in for their Stanley Cup runs. Give me a guy like Sidorski anytime. Expand Agreed. Most of the top teams will be using a combo of recruits + portal moving forward, IMO. We've had good luck with the portal too...guys like Sidorski, Jandric, Driscoll, Michaud, Jones, etc all ended up being great players for us. Quote
tnt Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:48 PM, brianvf said: Agreed. Most of the top teams will be using a combo of recruits + portal moving forward, IMO. We've had good luck with the portal too...guys like Sidorski, Jandric, Driscoll, Michaud, Jones, etc all ended up being great players for us. Expand Guarantee Quinnipiac wouldn’t be where they are without the portal. Guys like Connor Ford are always in short supply, so take advantage as long as the guy fits in with the way you want to play and is good in the team setting. Calder seemed off to me in that regard, but then again I have no insight to that except from the periphery. Quote
90siouxfan Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 I don't think the carry over fifty yearers played into the Rizzo miss... so what players would have come from our pipeline instead of keeping hain/senden/farmer/sidorski/deridder? Spicer, obviously, but hardly a gigantic plus by himself. Quote
Irish Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 Bottom line is that we need to upgrade our talent. Goalie, defense, passing, 5 on 5 scoring are all sub-par. We need to become a place again where top talent wants to come to hone their skills into NHL ready players. We seem to have lost that. We seem to fall down on the development part - have you ever seen a team regress so far as this one? Coaches need to do a serious post-mortem on this season. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 9:15 PM, 90siouxfan said: I don't think the carry over fifty yearers played into the Rizzo miss... so what players would have come from our pipeline instead of keeping hain/senden/farmer/sidorski/deridder? Spicer, obviously, but hardly a gigantic plus by himself. Expand He’s a true frosh…let’s let it play out 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 7:49 PM, Blackheart said: Wait, I thought he didn’t want us? Expand Didn’t we pull the plug? I could have sworn we asked him to play another year of juniors Quote
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