2023-24 University of North Dakota Hockey Season

[Goon]

48 minutes ago, krustyklown said:

First; no more ‘checkbox’ marking, natty babble or other fan/critic b.s.

Second; funnel your fan ‘karma energy’ to the TEAM so they win the first shift tomorrow night.

Third; rinse and repeat step 2

P.S.  Cease demanding line personnel change(s), ad infinitum.  Coaches coach, players play, fans are happy or sad - these are the finite roles in this drama.

 

 

Think about this: we lost a player last season to the portal because he couldn't handle the pressure of playing at UND. Too much pressure. 

[brianvf]

2 hours ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

Idk what you mean by we’d breeze through rounds one and two. Maybe round one but the NCAAs is no easy tourney

Yeah the current brackets have us playing Cornell in the 1st round.
This season, Cornell has swept UMD, beaten BU, beaten QU, and have only lost 4 games all season.

I don't think that'd be an easy first round game at all.

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

1 hour ago, Goon said:

Think about this: we lost a player last season to the portal because he couldn't handle the pressure of playing at UND. Too much pressure. 

Which specific one? There are a few that left that might apply to.

[Goon]

9 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Which specific one? There are a few that left that might apply to.

Cooper Moore said that I've heard it from a couple of different people, but Schloss had it in his Twitter feed last spring. 

[fightingsioux4life]

11 hours ago, brianvf said:

Yeah the current brackets have us playing Cornell in the 1st round.
This season, Cornell has swept UMD, beaten BU, beaten QU, and have only lost 4 games all season.

I don't think that'd be an easy first round game at all.

There are no easy games in the postseason. All the teams are good, that's why they are in the playoffs.

[stoneySIOUX]

On 2/21/2024 at 8:36 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

I think the fact that both Duluth and Denver have won two nattys each since we won #8 is what bothers people. We are falling behind in the all-time NCAA title race. With the talent we have had over the past 20 years, we should have passed Michigan in total nattys by now. That has real world consequences for our program. The very notion of North Dakota devolving into a forgotten, also-ran program like both Northern Michigan and Lake Superior State have is nauseating to someone who has been following this team since I was 6 years old. Whatever changes come to the sport of college hockey, our program must adapt.

Man, you bring this up ALL THE TIME and it's just not founded in truth. Who else believes this? What proof do you have about this? UND continues to win games, continues to get into the tournament, continues to recruit great players, continues to put players in the pros. Yes, I understand it's about winning championships, but a team has to have those regular season wins to get to the tournament. 

It's annoying that DU and UMD have won those titles. No doubt. Those two programs have found a way to have a four-game winning streak a couple times. That's quite literally what it takes to win a title and a team has to no only be very, very good to win those titles, but they also have to be very, very fortunate. That's the nature of the game and the nature of a one-game tournament format. Our standing as a program doesn't, nor should it, be diminished because we haven't been as fortunate in the tournament in recent years. Being a good to great team nearly every year has us in a position to remain where we are. Once you're in the tourney, it takes a lot to win it. UND didn't get it done in 20-21. Does a loss in 5OT mean that team couldn't have won the title? How about the 19-20 team that was lost to COVID? Both of those teams had what it takes to win. It's complete nonsense to think that because they didn't go on a four-game winning streak to end those seasons that our program is somehow diminished.

[fightingsioux4life]

37 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Man, you bring this up ALL THE TIME and it's just not founded in truth. Who else believes this?

I don't bring it up because I believe it. I think it's hogwash. I bring it up ALL THE TIME because @scpa0305 keeps insisting that the B1G and the big media market schools out east are going to rule the College Hockey world and that UND and other similar programs will have to settle for "backfilling with over-agers" (that's a direct quote from sometime last season, I am not making it up). Go tell @scpa0305 that he is wrong, because I think he is too. I keep bringing it up because that erroneous notion needs to be challenged whenever and wherever it is propagated.

Anyway, you make good points. I am enjoying this season, especially after the past few seasons, which were not as much fun to watch. @krustyklown is right, I will not bring up the topic of championships as long as UND is alive in the postseason.

[gfhockey]

48 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Man, you bring this up ALL THE TIME and it's just not founded in truth. Who else believes this? What proof do you have about this? UND continues to win games, continues to get into the tournament, continues to recruit great players, continues to put players in the pros. Yes, I understand it's about winning championships, but a team has to have those regular season wins to get to the tournament. 

It's annoying that DU and UMD have won those titles. No doubt. Those two programs have found a way to have a four-game winning streak a couple times. That's quite literally what it takes to win a title and a team has to no only be very, very good to win those titles, but they also have to be very, very fortunate. That's the nature of the game and the nature of a one-game tournament format. Our standing as a program doesn't, nor should it, be diminished because we haven't been as fortunate in the tournament in recent years. Being a good to great team nearly every year has us in a position to remain where we are. Once you're in the tourney, it takes a lot to win it. UND didn't get it done in 20-21. Does a loss in 5OT mean that team couldn't have won the title? How about the 19-20 team that was lost to COVID? Both of those teams had what it takes to win. It's complete nonsense to think that because they didn't go on a four-game winning streak to end those seasons that our program is somehow diminished.

Continue to get in tournament? Didn’t we miss it last year 

[stoneySIOUX]

2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I don't bring it up because I believe it. I think it's hogwash. I bring it up ALL THE TIME because @scpa0305 keeps insisting that the B1G and the big media market schools out east are going to rule the College Hockey world and that UND and other similar programs will have to settle for "backfilling with over-agers" (that's a direct quote from sometime last season, I am not making it up). Go tell @scpa0305 that he is wrong, because I think he is too. I keep bringing it up because that erroneous notion needs to be challenged whenever and wherever it is propagated.

Anyway, you make good points. I am enjoying this season, especially after the past few seasons, which were not as much fun to watch. @krustyklown is right, I will not bring up the topic of championships as long as UND is alive in the postseason.

Overall, I do apologize for making this all about you because it's certainly not. I think what @scpa0305 has always discussed, from my understanding, is that UND will lose out on the market share with how college hockey is going. I can't disagree with that. When I hear "backfilling with over-agers" I kind of think that's a lot what we did this year with Britt, Pehrson, Pyke, Johannes, etc. (not shots at them.... they are all very, very good hockey players). UND still has the ability to recruit and that hasn't changed. 

I think the bolded part is what bothers me the most. This team didn't get dropped from the NCAA tournament by losing two games to CC last week. We're so incredibly over reactive as a fanbase. I understand "fan" is short for fanatic, but my goodness 

[stoneySIOUX]

4 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Continue to get in tournament? Didn’t we miss it last year 

You're right. I TOALLY FORGOT ... My point is completely shattered 

[TwamleyShuffle]

It's game day : )

[gfhockey]

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney?

 

I bet you ask every single playa and they’ll say no

[TwamleyShuffle]

3 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney?

 

I bet you ask every single playa and they’ll say no

They'd probably say it's not a success if we don't win the last game of the NCAA tourney

[fightingsioux4life]

7 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney?

 

I bet you ask every single playa and they’ll say no

Let's not bring this out of the closet please:

[stoneySIOUX]

7 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney?

 

I bet you ask every single playa and they’ll say no

Who's saying it would be?

[burd]

6 minutes ago, TwamleyShuffle said:

They'd probably say it's not a success if we don't win the last game of the NCAA tourney

Agree

[fightingsioux4life]

18 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

When I hear "backfilling with over-agers" I kind of think that's a lot what we did this year with Britt, Pehrson, Pyke, Johannes, etc. (not shots at them.... they are all very, very good hockey players).

Those were Transfer Portal additions. When I hear "backfilling with over-agers", I think of settling for kids who have aged out of junior hockey and are still available because they aren't considered top recruits. That would mean fewer postseason trips and even fewer Frozen Four appearances. That is what we cannot afford to have happen.

[stoneySIOUX]

3 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Those were Transfer Portal additions. When I hear "backfilling with over-agers", I think of settling for kids who have aged out of junior hockey and are still available because they aren't considered top recruits. That would mean fewer postseason trips and even fewer Frozen Four appearances. That is what we cannot afford to have happen.

I understand the trepidation that it could cause if that's how you hear it. 

[burd]

18 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Is the season considered a success if we sre one and done in the tourney.

But that’s not the point you continually make.   Throughout his time as head coach, you could be counted on to continually diss Hal because he did not win a banner, despite winning many tourney games.   I’m sure you’re a loyal, long-time Sioux fan, gf, and probably knowledgeable, but you rarely, if ever, even talk about the game itself—only the failure to win banners.   One would think you get more out of the program’s failures than its successes.   

[thUNDer]

15 hours ago, krustyklown said:

First; no more ‘checkbox’ marking, natty babble or other fan/critic b.s.

Second; funnel your fan ‘karma energy’ to the TEAM so they win the first shift tomorrow night.

Third; rinse and repeat step 2

P.S.  Cease demanding line personnel change(s), ad infinitum.  Coaches coach, players play, fans are happy or sad - these are the finite roles in this drama.

 

 

Hmmmm, common sense & reasoning over negativity is a refreshing take. I’m in the camp of always having fun watching my Alma mater play & as much college hockey as possible from October into April. Losing games really sucks but doesn’t affect my passion in support of the entire program 

[Blackheart]

40 minutes ago, burd said:

But that’s not the point you continually make.   Throughout his time as head coach, you could be counted on to continually diss Hal because he did not win a banner, despite winning many tourney games.   I’m sure you’re a loyal, long-time Sioux fan, gf, and probably knowledgeable, but you rarely, if ever, even talk about the game itself—only the failure to win banners.   One would think you get more out of the program’s failures than its successes.   

Well, that's his schtick, isn't it?

[90siouxfan]

45 minutes ago, burd said:

But that’s not the point you continually make.   Throughout his time as head coach, you could be counted on to continually diss Hal because he did not win a banner, despite winning many tourney games.   I’m sure you’re a loyal, long-time Sioux fan, gf, and probably knowledgeable, but you rarely, if ever, even talk about the game itself—only the failure to win banners.   One would think you get more out of the program’s failures than its successes.   

Some people relish the opportunity to get up on the soap box and shout thier opinion,  being negatively slant is the easier route...   calling out perceived problems is an lame grab to make yourself relevant. 

[The Sicatoka]

If 2016 and prior are long forgotten programs, I guess college hockey is just DU, UMD, Q, and ... UMass ... 

[fightingsioux4life]

18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If 2016 and prior are long forgotten programs, I guess college hockey is just DU, UMD, Q, and ... UMass ... 

Northern Michigan and Lake Superior State University have been irrelevant for three decades. They used to be national powers. It can happen to anyone. Even UND.

[thUNDer]

18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If 2016 and prior are long forgotten programs, I guess college hockey is just DU, UMD, Q, and ... UMass ... 

Oh & such wisdom was just added to the list. Go Sioux tonight!