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Friday 8/4/2023 dispatch from the Pollard: Both sides of the ball were buzzing today. They practiced in helmets and shoulder pads and did 3 live 11 on 11 sessions and some skelly work.

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He’s not. And you’re stirring pots that aren’t there, again. There. Happy? You got your reactions to another inane post. 

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It's a very good article.  WARNING to some: It states some positive things about UND football players.  

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2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Drake - WIN

Northern Arizona - WIN

@Boise State - LOSS

@South Dakota State - LOSS

Western Illinois - WIN

North Dakota State - LOSS

@Northern Iowa - LOSS

Indiana State - WIN

@Murray State - WIN

@South Dakota - WIN

Illinois State - WIN

 

I figure anywhere between 6-5 and 8-3.  I think 4-7 is really unlikely, and folks predicting that are still stinging from the way the last two games of the season went.  Don't blame any of you for that though.  MVFC isn't as tough as many like to proclaim.  We've proven that already with Top 3 finishes in two of first three years since joining.  I expect another Top 3 or 4 finish.

Obviously unlikely to beat NDSU, but wouldn't be shocked given it is in the Alerus.  UNI and ISUr should both be winnable, but more likely a split and probably lose the one on the road.

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7 minutes ago, bincitysioux said:

I figure anywhere between 6-5 and 8-3.  I think 4-7 is really unlikely, and folks predicting that are still stinging from the way the last two games of the season went.  Don't blame any of you for that though.  MVFC isn't as tough as many like to proclaim.  We've proven that already with Top 3 finishes in two of first three years since joining.  I expect another Top 3 or 4 finish.

Obviously unlikely to beat NDSU, but wouldn't be shocked given it is in the Alerus.  UNI and ISUr should both be winnable, but more likely a split and probably lose the one on the road.

So in summary, 6 to 7 wins again is the most likely outcome, and you continue to think the Big Sky Conference is head and shoulders above the MVFC.

Sounds like more of the same, to me. 

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22 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

UND has plenty of big slow bodies. It’s the lineage. Need actual speed in the receiver room; it’s absent right now. Belquist #1 is the only stud. 

You missed the “like JMU” because with that the speed is implied. 

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7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

So in summary, 6 to 7 wins again is the most likely outcome, and you continue to think the Big Sky Conference is head and shoulders above the MVFC.

Sounds like more of the same, to me. 

Never said the Big Sky was "head and shoulders" above the MVFC.  The Valley is quality league.  I just don't believe that it is this gauntlet that the Fargo media would have you believe.

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We have a program where a 5-6 coach who was 47-40 over 8 seasons was extended before his contract was up - and the 5-6 season involved some of the worst game management ever.  Said coach is extremely adverse to change.  How do you think the 23 season is going to go?  

A contract is never "up".  Figure it out

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33 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

A contract is never "up".  Figure it out

Enlighten me - Bubba had more years to go on the contract that was current at the time.  When that period ended the contract was done and a new one was needed.  It did not go on in perpetuity.   I used the word "up" in the same context as "time's up".  What word should I have used to indicate this?  You know exactly what I meant.  This is your take-away from this thread?  

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I guess we might as well look at what we have coming back.

QB: everyone. This group is mostly an asset.

RB: lose Hoos which sucks, i wish we could have him another year. What a stud. Other losses are Moe-Tucker to the portal and likely Skokna ages out? This group needs a good transfer and fr. We will only have 4 RBs returning. Ziebarth is an x factor with his size and speed, hopefully he can step into a big role.

WR: Lose Maag. I'm not sure what to make of this group. Bo is an animal obviously. I think there's some potential with Dennis, DeMontagnac, and Wright. But as a whole this group is weak. Everyone knows how I feel about it, too white and slow. It's not hard to find good WRs these days with how the game is played in all parts of the country. 

TE: Lose Steckler and Zavalney. We've actually got a really nice group here, we just don't use them enough. I want to see more of Gunderson, he's got all the tools. Steck intrigues me as well. Norby is a nice player as well. I also look for Thaden to end up at OT before he's done here, kid's huge.

OL: Lose Christian and Oliphant. Ventrelli might come back for a final year, has this been confirmed? Kilty, Anderson, Hagen, Carrol, Lotysz and Bryant are a nice core. If a couple of Kelzenberg, Becher, Borud, and/or Kuntz develop we should be in business and better on the OL. We need this group to become the strength of the program with a legit 2 deep at every spot. We're not quite there yet but could be close.

DL: Lose Morrison, Ogbu, Johnson and Ledbetter. This group was not good this year. McNaboe made some plays here and there but, as a whole, they didn't do what our system requires. Beech and Orlando at least look the part. Schultz has legit potential i think. We will see if Teiken can make good on the hype. Other than that it's meh at best. Not looking good for next year.

LB: Lose MVJ, White, Cooper, Krzanowski, and Mullin. We are dead at OLB, and I mean dead. I have no idea who can make a play out there. I thought Navratil would have a huge season and he did all of nothing. I think Kelley and Pedigo can get it done in the middle. This group overall just straight sucks which is inexcusable given the system we run. We should be loaded. We have been in the past. What happened? LBs are as easy to find as WRs. The roster management here has been an absolute travesty. 

CB: Lose anyone? I actually like the potential of Ocannsey, Bliuett and Dixon. But they're very young and our system doesn't allow young guys to flourish. 

S: Lose nothing because we have nothing. I've never seen a worse position group. It's bad. Get 6 transfers here and see if any can play. Maybe a couple of these guys, KK and Koshiol, can slide down to OLB and be productive? 

Looks like we will be potentially better on O and potentially worse on D. I guess we will score 40 per game and give up 39.9 per game and lose first round of the playoffs. Nice.

 

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23 minutes ago, Irish said:

Enlighten me - Bubba had more years to go on the contract that was current at the time.  When that period ended the contract was done and a new one was needed.  It did not go on in perpetuity.   I used the word "up" in the same context as "time's up".  What word should I have used to indicate this?  You know exactly what I meant.  This is your take-away from this thread?  

Because people like you keep wondering why his contract was extended.  If he is deeemd the guy then it gets extended with 1-2 years left.  It never gets to the end.  

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18 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I guess we might as well look at what we have coming back.

QB: everyone. This group is mostly an asset.

RB: lose Hoos which sucks, i wish we could have him another year. What a stud. Other losses are Moe-Tucker to the portal and likely Skokna ages out? This group needs a good transfer and fr. We will only have 4 RBs returning. Ziebarth is an x factor with his size and speed, hopefully he can step into a big role.

WR: Lose Maag. I'm not sure what to make of this group. Bo is an animal obviously. I think there's some potential with Dennis, DeMontagnac, and Wright. But as a whole this group is weak. Everyone knows how I feel about it, too white and slow. It's not hard to find good WRs these days with how the game is played in all parts of the country. 

TE: Lose Steckler and Zavalney. We've actually got a really nice group here, we just don't use them enough. I want to see more of Gunderson, he's got all the tools. Steck intrigues me as well. Norby is a nice player as well. I also look for Thaden to end up at OT before he's done here, kid's huge.

OL: Lose Christian and Oliphant. Ventrelli might come back for a final year, has this been confirmed? Kilty, Anderson, Hagen, Carrol, Lotysz and Bryant are a nice core. If a couple of Kelzenberg, Becher, Borud, and/or Kuntz develop we should be in business and better on the OL. We need this group to become the strength of the program with a legit 2 deep at every spot. We're not quite there yet but could be close.

DL: Lose Morrison, Ogbu, Johnson and Ledbetter. This group was not good this year. McNaboe made some plays here and there but, as a whole, they didn't do what our system requires. Beech and Orlando at least look the part. Schultz has legit potential i think. We will see if Teiken can make good on the hype. Other than that it's meh at best. Not looking good for next year.

LB: Lose MVJ, White, Cooper, Krzanowski, and Mullin. We are dead at OLB, and I mean dead. I have no idea who can make a play out there. I thought Navratil would have a huge season and he did all of nothing. I think Kelley and Pedigo can get it done in the middle. This group overall just straight sucks which is inexcusable given the system we run. We should be loaded. We have been in the past. What happened? LBs are as easy to find as WRs. The roster management here has been an absolute travesty. 

CB: Lose anyone? I actually like the potential of Ocannsey, Bliuett and Dixon. But they're very young and our system doesn't allow young guys to flourish. 

S: Lose nothing because we have nothing. I've never seen a worse position group. It's bad. Get 6 transfers here and see if any can play. Maybe a couple of these guys, KK and Koshiol, can slide down to OLB and be productive? 

Looks like we will be potentially better on O and potentially worse on D. I guess we will score 40 per game and give up 39.9 per game and lose first round of the playoffs. Nice.

 

Our defensive background head coach, along with Holinka, have gutted our defense. And Chaves extends this after a losing season? I hope Bubba has the balls to hang it up sooner rather than later and hand the keys to Danny Freund. Lost a lot of respect for him from a coaching perspective, but he’s a really nice guy. 

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4 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Because people like you keep wondering why his contract was extended.  If he is deeemd the guy then it gets extended with 1-2 years left.  It never gets to the end.  

Yes, he was deemed the guy after a 5-6 2021 season. Funding football for UND is already an issue, so aimlessly extending coaches so you can’t buy them out is an issue. 

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Not cause of that. He will retire is my prediction 

I actually agree. He wants to retire in Grand Forks. Great guy, and I hope he stays here long term to represent the university and football program, just not as HC. As I said above, hope he hands the keys to Danny Freund. Also wouldn’t mind a nation wide search for new blood, but more likely scenario is the former (promotion of Freund). 

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