SWSiouxMN Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dustin said: I've been a little out of touch with the conference tournament since we've joined the Summit League, so hopefully someone can catch me up. It looks like the top 6 teams make the tournament. Seems a bit low for a conference tournament, but it probably helps avoid an unexpected upset and get the best team in the NCAA. Does that mean #1 and #2 seeds receive byes? I see the tournament is in Omaha this year. Does someone know how was that determined? I would love if the Betty could host the conference tourney again like they did in 2011 (Great West) and 2016 (Big Sky). Those tournaments are some of my best volleyball memories during the golden age. Yes. Whoever wins the regular season title the previous season. Quote
Dustin Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Whoever wins the regular season title the previous season. Ok. I understand that it's easier to plan when you know the venue and host a year in advance, but I feel like the reward is delayed and sort of cheats the best team of the current season. Quote
Dustin Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 It would be nice to get into that #3 seed (or #2 seed, but let's assume #3 for this argument) and play #6, currently SDSU. At the moment, there appears to be a big drop-off from #5 (Denver) to #6, so getting your first game of the conference tourney out of the way with an easier match would be good for the team. And then, maybe we can catch the #2 seed a little cold in the semi-final and ride our momentum into the championship game. Quote
Wildfan Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 The Oral Roberts facility that I seen in some of the highlights is straight embarrassing for D1 Edit: looks like they play in their wellness center and have temporary bleachers set up on the outside courts. I've seen better setups in HS B volleyball. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wildfan said: The Oral Roberts facility that I seen in some of the highlights is straight embarrassing for D1 Edit: looks like they play in their wellness center and have temporary bleachers set up on the outside courts. I've seen better setups in HS B volleyball. https://oruathletics.com/facilities/cooper-aerobics-center/4 Quote
siouxvblove Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dustin said: It would be nice to get into that #3 seed (or #2 seed, but let's assume #3 for this argument) and play #6, currently SDSU. At the moment, there appears to be a big drop-off from #5 (Denver) to #6, so getting your first game of the conference tourney out of the way with an easier match would be good for the team. And then, maybe we can catch the #2 seed a little cold in the semi-final and ride our momentum into the championship game. Still blown away with the Denver game. It was so back and forth, I think our Lady Hawks can beat them for sure. Assuming we will have a couple more wins (UMKC, SDSU, Denver, NDSU, USD??) Where would that put us. Quote
Dustin Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, siouxvblove said: Still blown away with the Denver game. It was so back and forth, I think our Lady Hawks can beat them for sure. Assuming we will have a couple more wins (UMKC, SDSU, Denver, NDSU, USD??) Where would that put us. Almost incomprehensible compared to what we dealt with last year, but winning out from this point (though I will admit would be unlikely) would make them champs (or possibly co-champs) the for regular season. In that scenario, the best that USD, NDSU, or Omaha could do is tie UND at the top with a record of 15-3. UND would own the head-to-head tiebreaker with both USD and NDSU, but would still be tied with Omaha, with each team having won once. I am not quite sure what the next tie-breaker criteria would be, so it possible we could lose that one. Since that scenario seems unlikely, let's see what happens if UND splits its games with the upper echelon (USD, NDSU, Omaha, and Denver, which BTW, we play them all AT HOME over the next 2 weeks, so get your butts in the Betty!!) for the season (meaning at the end of the year we would 1-1 with all those aforementioned teams): UND would finish 13-5 and probably be about where we are now in the standings - 4th or 5th. Like I said, if we could get out of the 4/5 match-up, I see that benefitting us a lot. But to do that, we will have to win a couple matches we are not favored in. Can't believe we're talking conference tourney seeding scenarios, but here we are. First, finish up the road trip tomorrow with a win, and then 4 straight home games against the cream of the crop. Should be a lot of fun. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 Don't quote me, but top six in a 3-6 winner plays 2, 4-5 winner plays 1 format to give top two some advantage for winning during regular season. I believe Omaha hosts as last season's regular season champ. Quote
kiyoat Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Don't quote me, but top six in a 3-6 winner plays 2, 4-5 winner plays 1 format to give top two some advantage for winning during regular season. I believe Omaha hosts as last season's regular season champ. This is exactly correct. And I'm quoting you..... Great reverse-sweep win. I think at this point the only way Tupac doesn't win COY is if NDSU wins the regular season. Great hire. 3 Quote
kiyoat Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Dustin said: ... I am not quite sure what the next tie-breaker criteria would be, so it possible we could lose that one.... I believe that after a H2H comparison, the records of the tied teams are compared to each conference opponent, one-by-one, starting at the top of the rankings. So if there are a bunch of teams tied for first, like in your example, then the next team down in standings is what would be compared. If that is still a tie they look at RPI ranking. Keep in mind that tie-breakers in the Summit are just for seeding (and determining next year's host), Co-champions is a thing. Quote
farce poobah Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 https://kcroos.com/watch/?Live=241&type=Live For the VB fans ... a live stream of today's match at KC. 1 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Lost the third and now fighting a close fourth set Quote
farce poobah Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Nice recovery in set 5. 15-10 final. 1 Quote
Dustin Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 It looked like it could be a sweep, but it took 5. Anyway, take a road win anyway you can get it. Back home for a really fun stretch of games. 2 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 MEMBER LEAGUE OVERALL South Dakota 10-1 21-2 North Dakota State 10-2 17-7 Omaha 10-3 15-8 North Dakota 9-3 12-11 Denver 9-4 15-9 South Dakota State 4-7 10-13 Oral Roberts 4-8 7-17 Kansas City 4-8 7-18 St. Thomas 1-12 3-22 Western Illinois 0-13 4-21 3 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Last year MEMBER LEAGUE OVERALL Omaha 16-2 20-10 South Dakota 15-3 20-10 Denver 14-4 23-6 Kansas City 12-6 21-10 Oral Roberts 11-7 18-11 South Dakota State 10-8 19-12 North Dakota State 6-12 12-18 Western Illinois 4-14 5-24 St. Thomas 2-16 3-25 North Dakota 0-18 1-29 Quote
Dustin Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I didn’t realize that NDSU was having a turnaround season as well. KC and ORU took steps in the other direction. Quote
loyalundfan Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I’m getting ready for a crazy back end of conference!!! Team is playing well, I’d love to see them knock off 2 of the top 4 (I think they can do it too.) There are usually a couple upsets pre conference tournament. Plus USD starting setter in a boot, so Tuesday could be fun! Let’s park the Betty for the top conference teams in November!!! 1 Quote
Dustin Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, loyalundfan said: USD starting setter in a boot Is this a recent development? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 ORU and UMKC each have 8 losses. UND has 9 wins. My math says UND's magic number to a bid is 2. Quote
Dustin Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: ORU and UMKC each have 8 losses. UND has 9 wins. My math says UND's magic number to a bid is 2. It appears your math is correct. Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted November 1, 2022 Posted November 1, 2022 2022 Summit League Volleyball Preseason Coaches' Poll Rank School Points (1st) 2021 Record (SL) 1. Denver 75 (6) 23-6 (14-4) 2. South Dakota 74 (3) 20-10 (15-3) 3. Omaha 68 (1) 20-10 (16-2) 4. Oral Roberts 53 18-11 (11-7) 5. South Dakota State 51 19-12 (10-8) 6. Kansas City 42 21-10 (12-6) 7. North Dakota State 35 12-18 (6-12) 8. North Dakota 22 1-29 (0-18) 9. St. Thomas 20 3-25 (2-16) 10. Western Illinois 10 5-24 (4-14 Quote
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