wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: His lead is down to ~15K in AZ and is around 10K i think in GA. It'll end up being pretty thin margins just like Trump's win in 2016. Not disputing that. The poster said that PA was the ballgame. It isn’t. Biden won a convincing electoral college victory. The excellent turnout on both sides for this election effectively show us where we are in this country. It is a ~52/48 slight D lean country, with the Rs having advantages in the House (gerrymandering), Senate (two seats per state) and Presidency (electoral college). Dems have to win by 3-5% or more to counteract these factors. They did, barely, for the Presidency and House. The lean is more pronounced in the Senate, where some estimates say that the Ds need a +7 national win to grab the majority. All elections are effectively turnout elections with few voters crossing over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: What is your response to my thought that the Midwest is simply finally having the virus run its course here versus the coastal states when it happened earlier? That explanation is far more likely that ND and SD we’re doing everything right with the pandemic in May/June when the coastal states were spiking. So either ND did everything right early and New York did everything wrong and then they somehow flip flopped that. Or, my first explanation is better. Which do you think it is? Looks pretty geographic to me. Fortunately, NY and maybe some others don't want the vaccine so perhaps the Feds should make sure we get them first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Not disputing that. The poster said that PA was the ballgame. It isn’t. Biden won a convincing electoral college victory. The excellent turnout on both sides for this election effectively show us where we are in this country. It is a ~52/48 slight D lean country, with the Rs having advantages in the House (gerrymandering), Senate (two seats per state) and Presidency (electoral college). Dems have to win by 3-5% or more to counteract these factors. They did, barely, for the Presidency and House. The lean is more pronounced in the Senate, where some estimates say that the Ds need a +7 national win to grab the majority. All elections are effectively turnout elections with few voters crossing over. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-jon-meacham-biden-speechwriter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bison06 said: What is your response to my thought that the Midwest is simply finally having the virus run its course here versus the coastal states when it happened earlier? That explanation is far more likely that ND and SD we’re doing everything right with the pandemic in May/June when the coastal states were spiking. So either ND did everything right early and New York did everything wrong and then they somehow flip flopped that. Or, my first explanation is better. Which do you think it is? I think ND was playing a dangerous game all along, and it finally got them. I don’t think it “burns through” a population though, especially with estimates of only 5% contracting the virus. Might be due to seasonal effects of people moving inside. The timing doesn’t address the problem of why the case and death rates are so high, though. Why is ND/SD’s data worse than FL/AZ was in summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Virginia should be ashamed of how little testing they are doing compared to North Dakota. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/states-comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Less confirmed cases of coronavirus, the less testing you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Goon said: Not sure what that means? Real clear politics took Pa away from Biden. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/president/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, wxman91 said: I think ND was playing a dangerous game all along, and it finally got them. I don’t think it “burns through” a population though, especially with estimates of only 5% contracting the virus. Might be due to seasonal effects of people moving inside. The timing doesn’t address the problem of why the case and death rates are so high, though. Why is ND/SD’s data worse than FL/AZ was in summer? To answer that wouldn’t you have to do a comparative analysis of the states in question, with the variables being age and level of health prior to infection. A large percentage of the elderly population in both AZ and FL don’t live there in the summer. That has to be factored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: Stay tuned. Do people in cults know that they are in cults? No reason, just asking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Coronavirus absolutely "moves through the population areas" at different times and rates. There were people bragging about how Manitoba "did it right" and had zero or very little covid. Fast forward to today and they now have headlines that read: "We're at a critical point." Their cases are spiking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: Virginia should be ashamed of how little testing they are doing compared to North Dakota. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/states-comparison Don’t need to test as much if you aren’t in the middle of a huge outbreak. Would you like to compare more concrete death and hospitalization data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, wxman91 said: I think ND was playing a dangerous game all along, and it finally got them. I don’t think it “burns through” a population though, especially with estimates of only 5% contracting the virus. Might be due to seasonal effects of people moving inside. The timing doesn’t address the problem of why the case and death rates are so high, though. Why is ND/SD’s data worse than FL/AZ was in summer? If it's the same virus then it has nothing to do with geography. Not sure how to explain it, you were pretty close earlier. Look at the charts of every state. Remarkably similar. Why are all the midwest states getting hit at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, wxman91 said: Don’t need to test as much if you aren’t in the middle of a huge outbreak. Would you like to compare more concrete death and hospitalization data? My prediction is that this post doesn’t age well. I can see it and I don’t live there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, UND1983 said: If it's the same virus then it has nothing to do with geography. Not sure how to explain it, you were pretty close earlier. Look at the charts of every state. Remarkably similar. Why are all the midwest states getting hit at once? Especially when each of those states have had vastly different responses. The fact that Minnesota is spiking at the same time as the Dakotas bolsters this argument. Minnesota had locked down just as hard as any of the east coast states and yet here we are with the highest numbers we’ve seen in Minnesota. I think it’s foolish to think that anyone has “done it right” or “done it wrong” each state has taken its licks in due time. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, homer said: My prediction is that this post doesn’t age well. I can see it and I don’t live there. The implication that has been raised here before and now is that ND looks bad because of increased testing. And that is absolutely not the case. The positivity rate, hospitalization numbers and death count all align to being the worst in the nation. So, why is ND the worst state for COVID since the original peak in March? What is it that makes ND “special”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Do people in cults know that they are in cults? No reason, just asking. CNN cult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, wxman91 said: The implication that has been raised here before and now is that ND looks bad because of increased testing. And that is absolutely not the case. The positivity rate, hospitalization numbers and death count all align to being the worst in the nation. So, why is ND the worst state for COVID since the original peak in March? What is it that makes ND “special”? How many are symptomatic? Are other states catching the asymptomatic cases? The more you test, the more asymptomatic cases you will catch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Nodak78 said: CNN cult? Why would anyone watch cable news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, dmksioux said: How many are symptomatic? Are other states catching the asymptomatic cases? The more you test, the more asymptomatic cases you will catch. Hospitalizations and deaths don’t matter for asymptomatic counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Why would anyone watch cable news? Your cult members do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, wxman91 said: So, why is ND the worst state for COVID since the original peak in March? This is only based on Confirmed Covid cases. Less testing equals less Confirmed Covid cases. North Dakota leads the nation in testing per capita. ND does not lead the nation in positivity rate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, wxman91 said: The implication that has been raised here before and now is that ND looks bad because of increased testing. And that is absolutely not the case. The positivity rate, hospitalization numbers and death count all align to being the worst in the nation. So, why is ND the worst state for COVID since the original peak in March? What is it that makes ND “special”? North Dakota certainly has not been fairing well but it’s not the worst death percentage in the country. Not sure about hospitalizations. Positive percentage isn’t good with all the testing going on but there are states that are far worse but are testing much less. Still predicting your post won’t age well in a month. Certainly hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Osterholm is just a flat out f-n clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 What they forgot to mention about the Pfizer vaccine: Quote Pfizer's vaccine requires a storage temperatureof minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit. By comparison, Moderna has said its vaccine must be stored at minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit. Minus 94. How many facilities in ND can store something at that temperature? https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/covid-vaccine-pfizer-drug-is-more-than-90percent-effective-in-preventing-infection.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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