Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, bison73 said: The only place this is a story is here. And Twitter and Facebook. I've already seen people saying they might think twice about letting their football playing son go to NDSU. And the internet doesn't die. Other prospective students will Google NDSU and Kolpacks article will still be there for all the world to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cratter said: It's on the NCAA website. So you dont have a link where is says---" Most of the time the NCAA doesn't even test for a stimulant (caffeine) unless that player had previously failed a NCAA drug test before. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 53 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So basically you are asking a University to willingly incriminate itself, embroiling itself in a possible lawsuit because it’s the right thing to do? No business or University on the planet would do that. So basically if Junior and BB mamma are right, then NDSU should lie to avoid a lawsuit? Do anything to protect the 7? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: So basically if Junior and BB mamma are right, then NDSU should lie to avoid a lawsuit? Do anything to protect the 7? Thats not what he is saying at all. And you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, bison73 said: So you dont have a link where is says---" Most of the time the NCAA doesn't even test for a stimulant (caffeine) unless that player had previously failed a NCAA drug test before. " Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it. He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants (caffeine). A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cratter said: Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it. He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants (caffeine). A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room. Wow you know he didnt test positive for caffeine????? No link????? Just as I thought. But you stick to your narrative. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, bison73 said: The only place this is a story is here. 1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Your sadly mistaken, I was just at Bozoville and the top thread was Brock Robbins with 307 posts all within the last few weeks. Another troll downplaying this NCAA violation. 52 minutes ago, bison73 said: Bozoville is spot on this NCAA kill. And you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it. He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants (caffeine). A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room. It sounds like in this particular case it won’t end up being caffeine, but you’re wrong about caffeine not being on the NCAA list of banned stimulants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMav Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: You want quotes? Did you even bother to read the article? You can choose like the rest of turdnation to stick your head in the sand. I however prefer to bask in Robbins' multiple statements that expose what is going on at ndsu. Below are a couple exact quotes from the article written on January 30th. His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances. The university denies the supplement came from a staff member. NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate. Still reads to me, that the staff member did not directly hand the substance to Robbins, but it was provided by the staff member. That makes Larsen and Lori Robbins correct. Kolpack added: The university denies the supplement came from a staff member. His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances. NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You’re wrong about caffeine not being on the NCAA list of banned stimulants. I never said that. I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMav Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Cratter said: Then NDSU still hired and provided banned substances to player(s) on the football team. Robbins ran out of his special juice so he borrowed his football player buddy who got it from Newman. The NCAA won't care if it was the player banned or not in their investigation. You've been reading Bisonville, I don't think they are close yet on who and what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cratter said: I never said that. I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests. Where on the ncaa site do you see a distinction between different stimulants and how long the suspension is? Everything I’ve seen just lumps them all under the category of “stimulants”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cratter said: I never said that. I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests. http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152 This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Wow you guys are sure getting ripped off by Ben Newman if apparently, according to your posts, all he’s been providing is overpriced Folgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, BisonMav said: Still reads to me, that the staff member did not directly hand the substance to Robbins, but it was provided by the staff member. That makes Larsen and Lori Robbins correct. Kolpack added: The university denies the supplement came from a staff member. His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances. NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate. And Bill didn’t have sexual relations with Monica, because it depends on what the definition of is, is. All I can say is good luck with your defense in the court of public opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMav Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: And Bill didn’t have sexual relations with Monica, because it depends on what the definition of is, is. All I can say is good luck with your defense in the court of public opinion. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: It has nothing to do with me being a former player. This is a possible legal situation and NDSU is taking the advice of lawyers at this point likely. What would your advice be to NDSU if you were there legal counsel? No comment would have been better than naming specifics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bison06 said: http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152 This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban. Ouch thats going to leave a mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, bison73 said: So what category do we put this post in???? Extrapolation or logical fallacy???? Both? Where ever you want. I really don’t care. I was responding to a post where a former player basically said it’s ok to lie to cover the university’s own actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Bison06 said: http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152 This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban. You are a horrible at reading comprehension. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, homer said: Where ever you want. I really don’t care. I was responding to a post where a former player basically said it’s ok to lie to cover the university’s own actions. You can read my statement however you like I suppose, but I think we both know that’s not what I was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: You are a horrible at reading comprehension. A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1, Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1, Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes. What am I missing? You caught him. Now hes just trolling. Its called deflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, bison73 said: The only place this is a story is here. ... and the front page of the Sunday Fargo Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: ... and the front page of the Sunday Fargo Forum. and every pre Super Bowl party in the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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