NDSUCKS Dump Thread

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, bison73 said:

The only place this is a story is here.

 

1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

Your sadly mistaken, I was just at Bozoville and the top thread was Brock Robbins with 307 posts all within the last few weeks.

Another troll downplaying this NCAA violation. 

 

52 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Bozoville is spot on this NCAA kill. And you know it.

[Bison06]

6 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it.

He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants  (caffeine).

A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room.

It sounds like in this particular case it won’t end up being caffeine, but you’re wrong about caffeine not being on the NCAA list of banned stimulants.

[BisonMav]

1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said:

You want quotes?  Did you even bother to read the article?  You can choose like the rest of turdnation to stick your head in the sand.  I however prefer to bask in Robbins' multiple statements that expose what is going on at ndsu.  Below are a couple exact quotes from the article written on January 30th.  

His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances.

The university denies the supplement came from a staff member.

NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Still reads to me, that the staff member did not directly hand the substance to Robbins, but it was provided by the staff member.  That makes Larsen and Lori Robbins correct.

Kolpack added:  The university denies the supplement came from a staff member.

His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances.

NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate.

[Cratter]

6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

You’re wrong about caffeine not being on the NCAA list of banned stimulants.

I never said that. 

I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests.

 

[BisonMav]

2 hours ago, Cratter said:

Then NDSU still hired and provided banned substances to player(s) on the football team.

Robbins ran out of his special juice so he borrowed his football player buddy who got it from Newman.

The NCAA won't care if it was the player banned or not in their investigation. 

You've been reading Bisonville, I don't think they are close yet on who and what.

[Bison06]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

I never said that. 

I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests.

 

Where on the ncaa site do you see a distinction between different stimulants and how long the suspension is? Everything I’ve seen just lumps them all under the category of “stimulants”.

[Bison06]

9 minutes ago, Cratter said:

I never said that. 

I said one year automatic suspensions (and denied appeals) don't happen for positive caffeine tests.

 

http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152

This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban.

[Siouxphan27]

Wow you guys are sure getting ripped off by Ben Newman if apparently, according to your posts, all he’s been providing is overpriced Folgers.   

[Siouxphan27]

13 minutes ago, BisonMav said:

Still reads to me, that the staff member did not directly hand the substance to Robbins, but it was provided by the staff member.  That makes Larsen and Lori Robbins correct.

Kolpack added:  The university denies the supplement came from a staff member.

His mother, Lori Robbins, said a “trusted program staff member” provided a pre-workout powder that contained an illegal substance or substances.

NDSU athletic director Matt Larsen said Robbins “got it from another student-athlete.” He didn't elaborate.

And Bill didn’t have sexual relations with Monica, because it depends on what the definition of is, is.  

All I can say is good luck with your defense in the court of public opinion. 

[BisonMav]

2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:

And Bill didn’t have sexual relations with Monica, because it depends on what the definition of is, is.  

All I can say is good luck with your defense in the court of public opinion. 

Thanks

[homer]

1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

It has nothing to do with me being a former player. This is a possible legal situation and NDSU is taking the advice of lawyers at this point likely. 

What would your advice be to NDSU if you were there legal counsel?

No comment would have been better than naming specifics.  

[bison73]

10 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152

This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban.

Ouch thats going to leave a mark.

[homer]

42 minutes ago, bison73 said:

So what category do we put this post in???? Extrapolation or logical fallacy???? Both?

Where ever you want.  I really don’t care.  

I was responding to a post where a former player basically said it’s ok to lie to cover the university’s own actions.  

 

[Cratter]

17 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

http://www.ncaa.org/compliance/reinstatement/reinstatement-involving-testing-positive-ncaa-banned-substance-ncaa-bylaw-184151-and-184152

This language indicates you’re wrong. The NCAA makes no distinction and all positive tests result in a one year ban.

You are a horrible at reading comprehension.

[Bison06]

7 minutes ago, homer said:

Where ever you want.  I really don’t care.  

I was responding to a post where a former player basically said it’s ok to lie to cover the university’s own actions.  

 

You can read my statement however you like I suppose, but I think we both know that’s not what I was saying.

[Bison06]

6 minutes ago, Cratter said:

You are a horrible at reading comprehension.

A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1,

Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes.

What am I missing?

[bison73]

3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1,

Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes.

What am I missing?

You caught him. Now hes just trolling.  Its called deflection.

[The Sicatoka]

2 hours ago, bison73 said:

The only place this is a story is here.

... and the front page of the Sunday Fargo Forum. 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

... and the front page of the Sunday Fargo Forum. 

and every pre Super Bowl party in the state.

[bison73]

Just now, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

and every pre Super Bowl party in the state.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

16 minutes ago, bison73 said:

What would it take for you to believe, an on location, off season February ESPN Game Day Show of The SLIP? 

[Mama Sue]

8 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

and every pre Super Bowl party in the state.

What? Where? Is it national now??? I am going to get a tattoo on my forehead that says “Told You!!

[Cratter]

30 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1,

Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes.

What am I missing?

You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants, while they do test for other drugs, during the season right?

Those begin during the playoffs.

Why are they tested separately? They don't see them as "performance enhancing." 

Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." 

Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same to the NCAA.

[The Sicatoka]

The NCAA needs to look at this Ben Newman fellow and his various endeavors. 

NDSU’s relationship with him (payments, access) should be explored as part of a self or State evaluation. 

[bison73]

3 minutes ago, Cratter said:

You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants during the season right? But they do for other classifications.

Just the Championship part. These are tested separately.

Why? They don't see those as the "performancing enhancing." 

Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." 

Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same in the NCAA.

So where are your athletes getting there supplements?  Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities?

The reason I ask is its already been stated here that UND athletes take supplements and its in every locker room in the country.