Oxbow6 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 ............and in the Premier League Chelsea had 66% of the possession vs Newcastle and won 2-1. #metrics #analytics #Corsi Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Godsmack said: I should’ve clarified that my commentary was directed at the relative silence to Bast’s hit. There appears to be far more outrage on this game thread over Wilkie’s cele than over Bast’s high hit on Berardinelli. But I also don’t think what Wilkie did on his roughing penalty merits wishing the guy ill will for the rest of his college career. I think there's more "outrage" over Wilkie's pop over Bast's hit because no one is disagreeing that Bast's hit was anything but dirty. Is anyone on here arguing that it wasn't? I haven't seen it. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: ............and in the Premier League Chelsea had 66% of the possession vs Newcastle and won 2-1. #metrics #analytics #Corsi Thanks for the soccer analysis. Possession led to 4 goals last night. Other than the PPG, which was a corner pick on a nice play, the kind of play many on here, myself included, have been begging for, the other three were the types of goals you get with consistent pressure and possession. I don't understand the problem, honestly. Do we all want more goals? Absolutely. But, 4 seems like a good start. Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Godsmack said: I should’ve clarified that my commentary was directed at the relative silence to Bast’s hit. There appears to be far more outrage on this game thread over Wilkie’s cele than over Bast’s high hit on Berardinelli. I have to rewind the tape to know for certain, but it appeared to me that not only did Wilkie celebrate with a jersey pop, I think he was wearing mismatched socks too! 1 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Wilkie was chirping the UND bench as he skated by after the goal. Between that and trying to bury one of our players face in the ice while he was on the top of him is enough for me to wish him all the worst in the last 1 1/2 seasons of his hockey career. As Stoney said, enjoy the ring you were gifted while at UND. Wilkie didn't say anything to the bench after his goal. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Thanks for the soccer analysis. Possession led to 4 goals last night. Other than the PPG, which was a corner pick on a nice play, the kind of play many on here, myself included, have been begging for, the other three were the types of goals you get with consistent pressure and possession. I don't understand the problem, honestly. Do we all want more goals? Absolutely. But, 4 seems like a good start. Leicester City had 72% of possession but lost 2-1 to Southampton. Bottom line is all the possession, Corsi, metrics and analytics garbage is irrelevant. Only thing that matters is final score and to UND's credit they we're finally on the right side of that last night. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Frozen4sioux said: As expected, Bast suspended. .....and deserved 1 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Oxbow6 said: Leicester City has 72% of possession but lost 2-1 to Southampton........ Bottom line is all the possession, Corsi, metrics and analytics garbage is irrelevant. Only thing that matters is final score and to UND's credit they we're finally on the right side of that last night. It's just not true to call it garbage, but ok. Do possession and shots always equal wins? No. But, we've already discussed possession leaders and how statistics show that this typically leads to success and UND has been an outlier this year. It's fine if you want to ignore it. Doesn't mean it's garbage. We dominated shots and possession last night and won. Both are great things. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: As expected, Bast suspended. 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: .....and deserved Agreed. Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 I think it would ..... check that...m should...be a challenge to find a UND fan who disagrees with the suspension. 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 4 hours ago, MafiaMan said: The Christmas Tree wasn’t literally lit up last night. Canisius College, however, was. Were you lit up last night, MM? Quote
TheFlop Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 Wilkie looks like he physically matured during the last couple years. He had a high school build his first 2 years at UND. Criticize his theatrics but he is exactly the type of player UND is desperately missing this year, which is a guy with a scorer's touch. He reminds me of Mismash a little bit except when he misses a shot it isn't 3 feet wide off the glass. A win is a win but it is amazing how hard UND has to work for goals (deflections, etc). The skill just isn't on the team this year to convert breakaways, 2 on 1's, etc. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 My head say split but a winning streak isn't defined by a single win......... 3-2 UND 2 Quote
Nameless Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Wilkie looks like he physically matured during the last couple years. He had a high school build his first 2 years at UND. Criticize his theatrics but he is exactly the type of player UND is desperately missing this year, which is a guy with a scorer's touch. He reminds me of Mismash a little bit except when he misses a shot it isn't 3 feet wide off the glass. A win is a win but it is amazing how hard UND has to work for goals (deflections, etc). The skill just isn't on the team this year to convert breakaways, 2 on 1's, etc. Now we want him back? No thanks 1 Quote
TheFlop Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Nameless said: Now we want him back? No thanks Said that type of player, not necessarily him specifically , you must have misread. This team is lacking finishers. Seeing 40 shots at the chest of the opposing goalie per game hoping for a random tip or deflection isn't a consistent formula to winning, at least not for this team. This team needs players that can cash in a higher percentage of shots. But since you brought it up, I would take Wilkie over 5-6 of the forwards that have played regularly this season. 1 Quote
Goon Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Said that type of player, not necessarily him specifically , you must have misread. This team is lacking finishers. Seeing 40 shots at the chest of the opposing goalie per game hoping for a random tip or deflection isn't a consistent formula to winning, at least not for this team. This team needs players that can cash in a higher percentage of shots. But since you brought it up, I would take Wilkie over 5-6 of the forwards that have played regularly this season. I think you could make the argument that Jones is a finisher. Check out this goal. Quote
TheFlop Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Goon said: I think you could make the argument that Jones is a finisher. Check out this goal. Jones has been a very solid player for UND. Tough not to like the guy. Quote
scpa0305 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Jones has been a very solid player for UND. Tough not to like the guy. Agreed, I doubt he ever plays in the nhl but he seems to give his all most games. Quote
scpa0305 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Nameless said: Now we want him back? No thanks I wish he never would have left. Kids taking off after an underclassmen season? Embarrassing. Quote
Goon Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I wish he never would have left. Kids taking off after an underclassmen season? Embarrassing. Hey @scpa0305 didn't he leave on his own accord? IRC he was whing and complaining about not getting playing time? He could've worked harder and stayed here. In JR's he was one of the top goal scorers in the USHL. Quote
nodakgirl93 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Agreed, I doubt he ever plays in the nhl but he seems to give his all most games. Luke Johnson made it. If he can so can Jones. Is Luke really a better player? Quote
scpa0305 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Goon said: Hey @scpa0305 didn't he leave on his own accord? IRC he was whing and complaining about not getting playing time? He could've worked harder and stayed here. In JR's he was one of the top goal scorers in the USHL. Ya agreed. That’s what I was saying Quote
scpa0305 Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said: Luke Johnson made it. If he can so can Jones. Is Luke really a better player? Depends. I was shocked luke got a few games this season. I also heard he lost some mass and worked on his speed a bunch. Luke is a good player. luke did well in juniors too. Quote
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