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5 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

The entire locker room was advocating for him. The admin were the ones that told him to go get outside experience. He young, knows winning, and wants to advance. Doubt there’s even interest but he’s my pick 

In my opinion he should have been the next coach there.  That's why I said he would be the most motivated to beat the team down south. Prove they made a mistake 

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1 hour ago, UND92,96 said:

Along those same lines, Johansen’s interest may depend on 65 year old Bob Nielson’s plans at USD, since presumably Johansen is the heir apparent there. But if Nielson wants to coach a few more years, who knows? Maybe Johansen doesn’t want to wait and is ready to move on. 

Is he a USD alum?  Just curious why he would want to wait for that position, as UND has a lot to offer with the facilities coming on board, and Grand Forks vs. Vermillion.

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2 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Beau Baldwin and Eric Schmidt have to both be considered, but I would give the edge to Baldwin given his success as FCS head coach. Schmidt has never been a head coach collegiately and his time as UND defensive coordinator was not that great - no playoff wins. His short time as DC at San Diego State has not been going well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Baldwin

Another perhaps overly simplistic method that would have barriers, but could produce high quality candidates, would be to look at recent Division II champions:

Tony Annese - Ferris State https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Annese

Todd Hoffner is intriguing although no championship 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Hoffner

Toldeo DC based on his time at Mount Union

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Kehres

Travis Johansen is gaining steam on here and I think he’s a fine candidate
https://goyotes.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/travis-johansen/1537

Lastly, there is Scott Wooster.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Wooster
 

All in all, I can guarantee at least one of the above will apply and be interested. I would not look towards Danny Freund, Isaac Fruechte, Jake Landry, or even Luke Schleusner, I’m afraid, as they do not have head coaching experience, FBS experience, or signifiant success as a coordinator.
 

Badly need to get some outside experiences into the UND fb program. 

I don’t believe Johansen has HC experience either,  but I would still look at him.  I would also look at Schmidt and Schleusner regardless of no HC experience either. All 3 of these guys are Coordinators with an upward trajectory. Candidates who have had success as a head coach and D1 coaching experience as a coordinator would have an advantage over guys who have never been a HC. 
 

A couple of thoughts:  I don’t care if they have a UND connection or not. I want the best available of the applicants to become the next HC. The guy (Gene Murphy) who turned our struggling program around in 2 years (albeit a long time ago) was a former player and long time asst with no HC experience. Roger Thomas had UND connections and turned the program around,  but it took longer.  Having UND connections can’t be a requirement nor should it disqualify anyone.

 

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9 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I don’t believe Johansen has HC experience either,  but I would still look at him.  I would also look at Schmidt and Schleusner regardless of no HC experience either. All 3 of these guys are Coordinators with an upward trajectory. Candidates who have had success as a head coach and D1 coaching experience as a coordinator would have an advantage over guys who have never been a HC. 
 

A couple of thoughts:  I don’t care if they have a UND connection or not. I want the best available of the applicants to become the next HC. The guy (Gene Murphy) who turned our struggling program around in 2 years (albeit a long time ago) was a former player and long time asst with no HC experience. Roger Thomas had UND connections and turned the program around,  but it took longer.  Having UND connections can’t be a requirement not should it disqualify anyone.

 

Johansen was 61-11 at Grand View (NAIA). 

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5 minutes ago, tnt said:

Is he a USD alum?  Just curious why he would want to wait for that position, as UND has a lot to offer with the facilities coming on board, and Grand Forks vs. Vermillion.

I just meant that if, hypothetically, Nielson told him he was retiring after the season or even after next season, maybe he’d be less interested in moving on now due to already having the players to fit his system, not having to uproot family, etc.  Obviously I agree that UND is the better job. 

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9 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Having UND connections can’t be a requirement not should it disqualify anyone.

Agreed. Preferred criteria would ideally be consistent success and a fast riser. Want someone who is capable of succeeding at UND and not plateau here. How that would look is someone with success as head coach (ideally) but alternatively success as coordinator, and someone who has moved up the ranks in relatively short amount of time. Success probably should be defined as wins.

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18 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

I thought Woodley was the HC but I could be wrong. 

Oh damn looks like you’re right! His bio on USD’s site is misleading. 

I knew I shouldn’t have doubted Ira. 

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1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

I don’t believe Johansen has HC experience either,  but I would still look at him.  I would also look at Schmidt and Schleusner regardless of no HC experience either. All 3 of these guys are Coordinators with an upward trajectory. Candidates who have had success as a head coach and D1 coaching experience as a coordinator would have an advantage over guys who have never been a HC. 
 

A couple of thoughts:  I don’t care if they have a UND connection or not. I want the best available of the applicants to become the next HC. The guy (Gene Murphy) who turned our struggling program around in 2 years (albeit a long time ago) was a former player and long time asst with no HC experience. Roger Thomas had UND connections and turned the program around,  but it took longer.  Having UND connections can’t be a requirement nor should it disqualify anyone.

 

I want someone who has won a national title as a player or coach. I do realize bubba met that requirement but if you look at UND guys to me it’s Luke S and Schimdt only. I do have a desire for new blood in the program though.

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If UND didn't hire from within so often maybe we wouldn't be in this position and only have one championship in a 100 years.

:whistling:

The status quo is obviously not working.

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2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

For this reason would like to see success as a head coach in the past …

The second Bubba left the head coaching position at Duluth....they won a national championship.

Despite the red flags....they picked that guy, over the guy who came to the Alerus with a lower division team and laid a whopping on UND.

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8 minutes ago, coltssiouxfan said:

Because I’m cheap… who’s all on this list?

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/8-names-to-consider-for-und-head-football-coach?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2qB_YCXK8TynWB7nXORu2Hu2lgA2-giWQuUG5HTeI_n0H_5RVPbEgQxUI_aem_gD4l67ayLhcHvLxlgYXG5w

Many many former UND guys on this list. I’m intrigued and most interested in the ones never before a coach at UND: 

1) Beau Baldwin, Calgary Stampede quarterbacks coach

2) Travis Johansen, South Dakota defensive coordinator

3) Brent Bolte, Bemidji State head coach

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