The All Important Polls

[Nodak78]

39 minutes ago, Dagger said:

How come Cal Poly doesn't get more respect?  They are 2 and 1.  There loss is to FBS Nevada in overtime.  They just went into Brookings and put 600 some  yards on SDSU and  beat them.  In most of the polls they are ranked way behind SDSU.  SDSU is I and 2.  How does that work?

Well poly is in the BSC no respect.  I agree they should be ranked.

[geaux_sioux]

39 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Predictions: If/When UND comes out of Bozeman with a win, do we hop back into the polls? On the one hand, this is not the highly ranked MSU team of years past. On the other hand it bring us to 2-2 with close losses to a, now ranked, Stony Brook, and a FBS Bowling Green.

I really don't care if we are ranked or not, I figure as long as this team does what it needs to do, especially with the schedule we have, the rankings will take care of themselves. Just curious what others think.

Better start caring about the rankings. We dug ourself a hole by losing the first two. We dropped a little bit more after our USD win too. We need to go on a big run to get back in the conversation otherwise we will screw ourselves over just like last year.

[siouxfan512]

48 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Better start caring about the rankings. We dug ourself a hole by losing the first two. We dropped a little bit more after our USD win too. We need to go on a big run to get back in the conversation otherwise we will screw ourselves over just like last year.

Right, I didn't mean they are unimportant. I just meant that if we win the games we need to going forward, the actual ranking will happen. It may not happen with 1 win or 2 wins, but with Montana St. on the road and Cal-Poly at home, there is an opportunity to get some pretty quality wins. Just focus on getting 1 win at a time and the rankings will fall into place.

[The Sicatoka]

Polls? Can't really control those. 

Control what's yours to control. --> Call play; execute play; repeat. 

[UNDColorado]

This is a good poll: http://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-week-5-2016

 

The STATS poll was garbage this week with SDSU ranked higher than Poly and UNI moving up two spots after that epic win over Bye.

[Sioux94]

1 hour ago, UNDColorado said:

This is a good poll: http://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-week-5-2016

 

The STATS poll was garbage this week with SDSU ranked higher than Poly and UNI moving up two spots after that epic win over Bye.

I agree, the Athlon poll seems to be more accurate based upon what has actually occurred this year, not just based upon conference, past history, and how good they thought teams were suppose to be this year.  

[UNDBIZ]

43 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I agree, the Athlon poll seems to be more accurate based upon what has actually occurred this year, not just based upon conference, past history, and how good they thought teams were suppose to be this year.  

I'd say South Dakota State is only in the poll based on conference and past history.

[Matt]

9 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

I'd say South Dakota State is only in the poll based on conference and past history.

They, and the rest of the mvfc, also receive the benefit of taking the field nearly every year against the top team in the country.  If you hung in there against ndsu, i gotta think that sticks in a voter's mind.

[geaux_sioux]

I wonder how far we drop in the polls this week.

[Wildfan]

7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

I wonder how far we drop in the polls this week.

Montana sports writer put in a vote with us at #21, Cal Poly at #15 and Stoney Brook at #22(I believe). 

[Nodak78]

Well we made one poll

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-week-6-2016

 

[Teeder11]

24 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

Well we made one poll

http://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-week-6-2016

 

Not a complaint, but it seems like they attributed a lot to Prothoe's absence as the reason for a Poly loss and justification for a higher ranking than UND. Did they realize that our featured All-America back was out for virtually the entire game, too? We just had better depth. Imagine that!

[Nodak78]

3 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:

Not a complaint, but it seems like they attributed a lot to Prothoe's absence as the reason for a Poly loss and justification for a higher ranking than UND. Did they realize that our featured All-America back was out for virtually the entire game, too? We just had better depth. Imagine that!

I agree.  I'm not sure Porthole would have made much difference.

[geaux_sioux]

Just remember everyone else looks at our games and either sees that the other team found a way to lose or were just too much for us to overcome. We haven't won a game yet this year, the other team just ran out of time.

[MoreSiouxForYou]

35 minutes ago, Teeder11 said:

Not a complaint, but it seems like they attributed a lot to Prothoe's absence as the reason for a Poly loss and justification for a higher ranking than UND. Did they realize that our featured All-America back was out for virtually the entire game, too? We just had better depth. Imagine that!

They don't even acknowledge that Santiago was out with injury as well. This reads like he could have played.

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Our preseason No. 15 squad returns to the Power Poll with a three-game winning streak. Sophomore Brady Oliveira is becoming the featured running back over John Santiago. - See more at: http://athlonsports.com/college-football/fcs-rankings-power-poll-week-6-2016#sthash.RxkvXI6t.dpuf

 

[Teeder11]

5 minutes ago, MoreSiouxForYou said:

They don't even acknowledge that Santiago was out with injury as well. This reads like he could have played.

 

Those were my thoughts, too. Oh well.  Keep 'em guessing!

[siouxfan512]

Gotta love the MVFC team. Illinois state is on a 3 game losing streak, got it handed to them by NDSU, and only drops 2 spots to remain in the polls at 21. 2-3 and 0-2 in conference. Sorry, they should have dropped out.

As for not acknowledging Santiago, its a little ridiculous, but not all that surprising. While UND is gaining momentum, and more fans at the games, it'll still take a while to gain more respect. Stupid, but it is what it is.

If this team plays to its potential, they can win out. I'm not saying they will, but they certainly have that capability to, given the schedule and the way this team is progressing.

[geaux_sioux]

8 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Gotta love the MVFC team. Illinois state is on a 3 game losing streak, got it handed to them by NDSU, and only drops 2 spots to remain in the polls at 21. 2-3 and 0-2 in conference. Sorry, they should have dropped out.

As for not acknowledging Santiago, its a little ridiculous, but not all that surprising. While UND is gaining momentum, and more fans at the games, it'll still take a while to gain more respect. Stupid, but it is what it is.

If this team plays to its potential, they can win out. I'm not saying they will, but they certainly have that capability to, given the schedule and the way this team is progressing.

I'm pretty worried about Sac State though, they just had a huge confidence boost with a dramatic win and it will be their homecoming. As with every Cali team they will have enough athletes to beat us.

[siouxfan512]

10 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I'm pretty worried about Sac State though, they just had a huge confidence boost with a dramatic win and it will be their homecoming. As with every Cali team they will have enough athletes to beat us.

Absolutely! There are no free games. I am hoping they will come out a bit flat off of an emotional win, but the same could be said for us. Hopefully the late start doesn't impact our guys too much either. We need a fast start like last week, but without the turnovers. Lets put the game away early. Yes, I know they came back against Mt. St, but I'd love to see our back ups play the 4th Q.

[Longtime fan]

24 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

Gotta love the MVFC team. Illinois state is on a 3 game losing streak, got it handed to them by NDSU, and only drops 2 spots to remain in the polls at 21. 2-3 and 0-2 in conference. Sorry, they should have dropped out.

As for not acknowledging Santiago, its a little ridiculous, but not all that surprising. While UND is gaining momentum, and more fans at the games, it'll still take a while to gain more respect. Stupid, but it is what it is.

If this team plays to its potential, they can win out. I'm not saying they will, but they certainly have that capability to, given the schedule and the way this team is progressing.

Just look at cal poly-  they dominated (661 yards)  a top ten team sdsu in sd and then dropped 42 and a W on top ten montana- two top ten wins!!!   -  a then 3-1 record and their only loss was in OT to a fbs team yet sit below both montana and sdsu!?!?! Wtf! 

They've made it clear that the only thing that matters is the name on jersey and belonging to a "certain" conference.  

 

[siouxfan512]

3 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

Just look at cal poly-  they dominated (661 yards)  a top ten team sdsu in sd and then dropped 42 and a W on top ten montana- two top ten wins!!!   -  a then 3-1 record and their only loss was in OT to a fbs team yet sit below both montana and sdsu!?!?! Wtf! 

They've made it clear that the only thing that matters is the name on jersey and belonging to a "certain" conference.  

 

Agreed, I'd like to think it will even out as the year goes on, but then they will just say the MVFC beats up on themselves, justifying high rankings for all. Obviously they have some really good teams. I don't think anyone would deny that. BUT they definitely rank some teams that don't need to be ranked, and over rank some teams as well. 

I know SDSU won this past weekend, but they had no business being ranked as high as they were going into the weekend. They were a 1-3 team, winning against Drake.

Pretty obnoxious stuff.

[siouxfan512]

We snuck into the STATS poll at #24, behind #23 Illinois St, and #21 Cal Poly.

 

STATS FCS Poll

Rankings as of 10/3/2016

RankSchoolVotesPrev

1 North Dakota State (4-0)4100 (164)1

2 Sam Houston State (4-0)38662

3 Jacksonville State (3-1)37073

4 Eastern Washington (4-1)35964

5 Chattanooga (5-0)34865

6 Richmond (4-1)30736

7 James Madison (4-1)30117

8 Charleston Southern (3-2)283610

9 Citadel (4-0)28109

10 Montana (3-1)257111

11 UNI (2-2)234012

12 South Dakota State (2-2)220115

13 Western Illinois (3-1)19448

14 Villanova (4-1)193617

15 Youngstown State (3-1)156920

16 Albany (4-0)142221

17 Coastal Carolina (3-2)125314

18 North Carolina A&T (3-1)122222

19 Eastern Illinois (3-2)91013

20 McNeese (3-2)86623

21 Cal Poly (3-2)76916

22 Harvard (3-0)70625

23 Illinois State (2-3)67918

24 North Dakota (3-2)365NR

25 Central Arkansas (4-1)363NR

Others: Grambling State (305) , Tennessee State (259) , William & Mary (218) , Samford (168) , New Hampshire (134) , Stony Brook (125) , Missouri State (73) , Stephen F. Austin (70) ,Indiana State (64) , Sacred Heart (54) , Wagner (45) , Colgate(28) , Southern Utah (26) , Northern Arizona (22) , Cornell (21) ,South Carolina State (13) , Dartmouth (11) , Portland State (11) , Lehigh (10) , Penn (7) , Fordham (7) , Nicholls (5) , Towson (5) , Northern Colorado (4) , Monmouth (3) , North Carolina Central(3) , Kennesaw State (3) , Wofford (2) , Georgetown (1) ,Eastern Kentucky (1) , San Diego (1)

[geaux_sioux]

15 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

We snuck into the STATS poll at #24, behind #23 Illinois St, and #21 Cal Poly.

 

STATS FCS Poll

Rankings as of 10/3/2016

RankSchoolVotesPrev

1 North Dakota State (4-0)4100 (164)1

2 Sam Houston State (4-0)38662

3 Jacksonville State (3-1)37073

4 Eastern Washington (4-1)35964

5 Chattanooga (5-0)34865

6 Richmond (4-1)30736

7 James Madison (4-1)30117

8 Charleston Southern (3-2)283610

9 Citadel (4-0)28109

10 Montana (3-1)257111

11 UNI (2-2)234012

12 South Dakota State (2-2)220115

13 Western Illinois (3-1)19448

14 Villanova (4-1)193617

15 Youngstown State (3-1)156920

16 Albany (4-0)142221

17 Coastal Carolina (3-2)125314

18 North Carolina A&T (3-1)122222

19 Eastern Illinois (3-2)91013

20 McNeese (3-2)86623

21 Cal Poly (3-2)76916

22 Harvard (3-0)70625

23 Illinois State (2-3)67918

24 North Dakota (3-2)365NR

25 Central Arkansas (4-1)363NR

Others: Grambling State (305) , Tennessee State (259) , William & Mary (218) , Samford (168) , New Hampshire (134) , Stony Brook (125) , Missouri State (73) , Stephen F. Austin (70) ,Indiana State (64) , Sacred Heart (54) , Wagner (45) , Colgate(28) , Southern Utah (26) , Northern Arizona (22) , Cornell (21) ,South Carolina State (13) , Dartmouth (11) , Portland State (11) , Lehigh (10) , Penn (7) , Fordham (7) , Nicholls (5) , Towson (5) , Northern Colorado (4) , Monmouth (3) , North Carolina Central(3) , Kennesaw State (3) , Wofford (2) , Georgetown (1) ,Eastern Kentucky (1) , San Diego (1)

This poll has been particularly terrible this year.

[UNDColorado]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

This poll has been particularly terrible this year.

Agreed, last week UNI improved two spots after a bye week. SDSU also did not get punished for losing at home to Poly. 

[UNDBIZ]

24 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

We snuck into the STATS poll at #24, behind #23 Illinois St, and #21 Cal Poly.

 

STATS FCS Poll

Rankings as of 10/3/2016

RankSchoolVotesPrev

1 North Dakota State (4-0)4100 (164)1

2 Sam Houston State (4-0)38662

3 Jacksonville State (3-1)37073

4 Eastern Washington (4-1)35964

5 Chattanooga (5-0)34865

6 Richmond (4-1)30736

7 James Madison (4-1)30117

8 Charleston Southern (3-2)283610

9 Citadel (4-0)28109

10 Montana (3-1)257111

11 UNI (2-2)234012

12 South Dakota State (2-2)220115

13 Western Illinois (3-1)19448

14 Villanova (4-1)193617

15 Youngstown State (3-1)156920

16 Albany (4-0)142221

17 Coastal Carolina (3-2)125314

18 North Carolina A&T (3-1)122222

19 Eastern Illinois (3-2)91013

20 McNeese (3-2)86623

21 Cal Poly (3-2)76916

22 Harvard (3-0)70625

23 Illinois State (2-3)67918

24 North Dakota (3-2)365NR

25 Central Arkansas (4-1)363NR

Others: Grambling State (305) , Tennessee State (259) , William & Mary (218) , Samford (168) , New Hampshire (134) , Stony Brook (125) , Missouri State (73) , Stephen F. Austin (70) ,Indiana State (64) , Sacred Heart (54) , Wagner (45) , Colgate(28) , Southern Utah (26) , Northern Arizona (22) , Cornell (21) ,South Carolina State (13) , Dartmouth (11) , Portland State (11) , Lehigh (10) , Penn (7) , Fordham (7) , Nicholls (5) , Towson (5) , Northern Colorado (4) , Monmouth (3) , North Carolina Central(3) , Kennesaw State (3) , Wofford (2) , Georgetown (1) ,Eastern Kentucky (1) , San Diego (1)

We did have a really bad loss against Stony Brook though.  We should be happy we're ranked at all after that debacle.  I don't think any other team would be.  For some reason I can't get the numbers 42-14 and 6 out of my head right now.

Cal Poly lucky to be ranked at all too, all they've done is beat the #10 and #12 teams.  Vaunted MVFC defense really shut down their run game but they got lucky is all.