Siouxperfan7 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 If they are going to go generic if they go the bird route I rather they go the plane route. The navy used to use a Douglas A-4 Skyhawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_A-4_Skyhawk#United_StatesThe Argentine variant was the Fighting Hawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_A-4AR_FightinghawkThe US Lockheeed F-117 Nighthawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_NighthawkCurtiss P-40 Warhawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-40_WarhawkThen there is also the Desert Hawk which is a Drone (which doesn't look as cool, but does match our UAS program)Or Blackhawk which is a military helicopter.But what if their are some "delicate, special, mantel full of participation trophies" snowflakes on campus who feel that any mention or depiction of weapons would violate their safe zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Great idea to go with aircraft and the connection to the airbase, not to mention the strong aviation department, BUT there will definitely be bleeding hearts that object to anything related to war.Imagine the sound effects of an aircraft fly-over being used inside The Ralph and the Alerus when UND scores. Siouxpride.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodacker Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Gophers native American cousin? Fighting mice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Great idea to go with aircraft and the connection to the airbase, not to mention the strong aviation department, BUT there will definitely be bleeding hearts that object to anything related to war.Imagine the sound effects of an aircraft fly-over being used inside The Ralph and the Alerus when UND scores. Siouxpride.com This would be really cool. Differentiate ourselves at least a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Great idea to go with aircraft and the connection to the airbase, not to mention the strong aviation department, BUT there will definitely be bleeding hearts that object to anything related to war.Imagine the sound effects of an aircraft fly-over being used inside The Ralph and the Alerus when UND scores. Siouxpride.com Yes, I agree. Let's salvage something out of this whole fiasco and go aircraft based logo (connection to our local AF Bases, aviation at UND, tribute to our armed forces, etc) rather than be another bird logo like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Curtiss P-40 Warhawk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-40_Warhawk Problem with most of those suggestions would be that our name is the Fighting Hawks, now, so I think the name of the plane has to be the same. Had the Warhawks nickname been chosen, I could definitely see going with the shark mouth logo from the P-40's that were so common in WWIIYes, I agree. Let's salvage something out of this whole fiasco and go aircraft based logo (connection to our local AF Bases, aviation at UND, tribute to our armed forces, etc) rather than be another bird logo like everyone else. I could be swayed here. Boy, IMO it's really going to be key that they get a kick-ass logo. I think that will very much help people who aren't nickname fans to assimilate, if they really like the logo. I think a "meh" logo with a "meh" nickname will result in little identification with the new nickname by the fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Problem with most of those suggestions would be that our name is the Fighting Hawks, now, so I think the name of the plane has to be the same. Had the Warhawks nickname been chosen, I could definitely see going with the shark mouth logo from the P-40's that were so common in WWIII could be swayed here. Boy, IMO it's really going to be key that they get a kick-ass logo. I think that will very much help people who aren't nickname fans to assimilate, if they really like the logo. I think a "meh" logo with a "meh" nickname will result in little identification with the new nickname by the fanbase. You mean like this?!!! To bad it is not a USAF plane. Edited November 20, 2015 by Siouxperfan7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fight on sioux Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 https://www.change.org/p/the-university-of-northd-dakota-fighting-hawks-logo?recruiter=22043669&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_page&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-custom_msg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I could be swayed here. Boy, IMO it's really going to be key that they get a kick-ass logo. I think that will very much help people who aren't nickname fans to assimilate, if they really like the logo. I think a "meh" logo with a "meh" nickname will result in little identification with the new nickname by the fanbase. Let me say this, our fan base deserves something better than just some ordinary bird logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I like this article by Tom Dennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 You mean like this?!!! To bad it is not a USAF plane. I like it. Sure, it was developed for Argentina, but people voted for Roughriders and they were- well, never mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I like this article by Tom Dennis.Seldom does an editorial by the Grand Forks Herald sway any action, public opinion or create any social change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Lockheed Martin A-4AR Fightinghawk Lockheed Martin is an American company. I like it. Sure, it was developed for Argentina, but people voted for Roughriders and they were- well, never mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedude Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe something like this? I cant think of how to put the text but the Fightinghawk plane has a really nice line on the back of the wings for a text line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe something like this? I cant think of how to put the text but the Fightinghawk plane has a really nice line on the back of the wings for a text line.I love your guerrilla activism but unfortunately I don't like the plane idea in general. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Seldom does an editorial by the Grand Forks Herald sway any action, public opinion or create any social change. Cool, good talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evrSIOUX Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I like this article by Tom Dennis.Well done, I completely agree. I think using some aspects of the old logo will make this whole change easier fo people to accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Seldom does an editorial by the Grand Forks Herald sway any action, public opinion or create any social change. That is debatable. I think many do the opposite of what they say or recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Seldom does an editorial by the Grand Forks Herald sway any action, public opinion or create any social change. The last local guy that designed a logo did a pretty good job I think?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fight on sioux Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 The last local guy that designed a logo did a pretty good job I think?!!Yes he did and I think he needs to do it again!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yes he did and I think he needs to do it again!!! Can lightning strike twice? Do you want to go to that well again? Won't anything less than a home run taint the legacy and remove some of the luster and reverence?I'm no art critic, but you'd be putting a lot of pressure on the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I'm not a fan of the idea of going out for an RFP on the logo design. Perhaps it will work out ok. But when I think of "formal" process I think of the committee, and I worry that the winning design firm will be some firm from far away that specializes in logo designs. And then we'll end up with a nice looking logo meant to be safely appealing without any real soul. The designer won't be someone who really wants something special for UND, but someone who just cranks out pretty logo designs. The difference between buying a pie from Baker's Square and making your own. Deep down the mass market pie just can't compare to one made with soul.I'd like to see people like Bennett Brien and other local artists who really want to make a name for themselves to have a chance to submit their ideas. Maybe even an idea from a regular Joe would be identified as great, and then a professional contracted to refine and turn it into a finished product.I just think if UND hires a "firm" that cranks these out is just going to get someone producing for a paycheck, and not someone close to home who is motivated by being identified with a great logo that inspires pride in the nickname/image. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) But when I think of "formal" process I think of the committeeYeah, and you see where the creativity-by-committee strategy has gotten us so far. It creates a situation in which the focus is on elimination instead of creation. Each option is taken away one by one until we are left with a nickname by default, and eventually a logo by default. Edited November 21, 2015 by obborg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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