Popular Post ClassB Posted November 8, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2015 To those who choose to abstain -A wise woman once told me: "Its fine to have principles, but sometimes, at the end of the day, that's all you're left with." Like it or not, people will move past Sioux (I sure don't like it). Eventually, you will be at a UND (roughriders, hawks) hockey game, and you will let out a "Sioux yeah yeah!" and you will get glares in response. On that day, you will wish you had voted. Or you will dig in your heels and become a a bitter old man or woman.To you who wouldn't vote, I implore you to not be short-sighted. I will still be wearing my Sioux gear probably until the end of time. One day, I'm sure I'll buy gear with the new nickname. Make your opinion count today, in a way that you haven't yet (and look where that has gotten us!). This is the last chance for you to legitimize your opinion. On November 16th, it really won't matter why you didn't vote, all you will be is a statistic that chose not to step up to the plate, and therefore comes across as disinterested in the University's athletics. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 To those who choose to abstain -A wise woman once told me: "Its fine to have principles, but sometimes, at the end of the day, that's all you're left with." Like it or not, people will move past Sioux (I sure don't like it). Eventually, you will be at a UND (roughriders, hawks) hockey game, and you will let out a "Sioux yeah yeah!" and you will get glares in response. On that day, you will wish you had voted. Or you will dig in your heels and become a a bitter old man or woman.To you who wouldn't vote, I implore you to not be short-sighted. I will still be wearing my Sioux gear probably until the end of time. One day, I'm sure I'll buy gear with the new nickname. Make your opinion count today, in a way that you haven't yet (and look where that has gotten us!). This is the last chance for you to legitimize your opinion. On November 16th, it really won't matter why you didn't vote, all you will be is a statistic that chose not to step up to the plate, and therefore comes across as disinterested in the University's athletics.Well said. I agree 100%. Please, if you are an eligible voter, exercise your right to vote. Those who don't participate in the process thereby give up their right to complain about the results of the process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Well said. I agree 100%. Please, if you are an eligible voter, exercise your right to vote. Those who don't participate in the process thereby give up their right to complain about the results of the process.As long as it is a vote for Roughriders, right?So, just like politics, if you don't vote, then no complaining. Got it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 As long as it is a vote for Roughriders, right?So, just like politics, if you don't vote, then no complaining. Got it. Did I say that? No.....you did.The more people that vote, the more legitimate the process will be. And the easier it will be for the public to accept the results.I could live with either of the finalists, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 To those who choose to abstain -A wise woman once told me: "Its fine to have principles, but sometimes, at the end of the day, that's all you're left with." Like it or not, people will move past Sioux (I sure don't like it). Eventually, you will be at a UND (roughriders, hawks) hockey game, and you will let out a "Sioux yeah yeah!" and you will get glares in response. On that day, you will wish you had voted. Or you will dig in your heels and become a a bitter old man or woman.To you who wouldn't vote, I implore you to not be short-sighted. I will still be wearing my Sioux gear probably until the end of time. One day, I'm sure I'll buy gear with the new nickname. Make your opinion count today, in a way that you haven't yet (and look where that has gotten us!). This is the last chance for you to legitimize your opinion. On November 16th, it really won't matter why you didn't vote, all you will be is a statistic that chose not to step up to the plate, and therefore comes across as disinterested in the University's athletics. I have made the choice to abstain not because I am clinging to Fighting Sioux, but because I would just be voting for something I don't really care about at this point. The process has been a joke and I am extremely disappointed in each of the final 5 names but that doesn't change the fact that I will accept whatever is selected and support it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Honestly my line next week will be less than 1/3 of eligible voters chose Fighting Hawks. 1/6th (considered a majority) chose this for us. So by all means, go on and vote so that I can at least start accepting that we are a childish enough fan base to elect Hawks by majority, as opposed to an indifferent fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The problem is that I don't like either name enough to vote for it. So I should decide which I dislike the least and vote for it? If I clearly didn't want one of the names and found it worse than the other I would vote. If I liked one better than the other I would vote. I don't find myself in either situation right now. I really wanted something unique and that was pushed aside a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 YES. You should decide which you dislike the least and vote for it -- the same as you do every time there is a presidential election.Roughriders (I am told) is used by zero other universities. Yes, Red River uses it. If they were a national power in something year in and year out (at the HS level), where we would have an identity crisis, i would have second thoughts, but they're not, and i don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Did I say that? No.....you did.The more people that vote, the more legitimate the process will be. And the easier it will be for the public to accept the results.I could live with either of the finalists, btw.ummm. That ship sailed months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 ummm. That ship sailed months ago.I hear what you are saying, but we have to make the best of a bad situation and that is what I am going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Honestly my line next week will be less than 1/3 of eligible voters chose Fighting Hawks. 1/6th (considered a majority) chose this for us. So by all means, go on and vote so that I can at least start accepting that we are a childish enough fan base to elect Hawks by majority, as opposed to an indifferent fan base.So, the other universities that have "bird" nicknames are childish and/or have immature fan bases? UND is no more privileged than:Air Force FalconsBall State CardinalsBoston College EaglesBowling Green FalconsEastern Michigan EaglesFlorida Atlantic OwlsGeorgia Southern EaglesLouisiana-Monroe WarhawksLouisville CardinalsMiami (OH) RedhawksOregon DucksRick OwlsSouth Carolina GamecocksSouthern Miss Golden EaglesTemple Owls Yes, there are a lot of "bird-related" nicknames, but most of the schools have identifiable logos and, most importantly, do just fine with their athletics. UND can do just fine with marketing and promotions as the Fighting Hawks. Furthermore, UND can be successful on the field, ice, and court as the Fighting Hawks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evrSIOUX Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I have made the choice to abstain not because I am clinging to Fighting Sioux, but because I would just be voting for something I don't really care about at this point. The process has been a joke and I am extremely disappointed in each of the final 5 names but that doesn't change the fact that I will accept whatever is selected and support it. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evrSIOUX Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 YES. You should decide which you dislike the least and vote for it -- the same as you do every time there is a presidential election.Roughriders (I am told) is used by zero other universities. Yes, Red River uses it. If they were a national power in something year in and year out (at the HS level), where we would have an identity crisis, i would have second thoughts, but they're not, and i don't.Great, I'll vote for FH! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I have made the choice to abstain not because I am clinging to Fighting Sioux, but because I would just be voting for something I don't really care about at this point. The process has been a joke and I am extremely disappointed in each of the final 5 names but that doesn't change the fact that I will accept whatever is selected and support it. right there with you. It's been a complete fiasco and I'm done with it. Whatever name it is that's what I'll go with it. Sick of the entire played out process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 YES. You should decide which you dislike the least and vote for it -- the same as you do every time there is a presidential election.Got one of these situations going on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 YES. You should decide which you dislike the least and vote for it -- the same as you do every time there is a presidential election.Roughriders (I am told) is used by zero other universities. Yes, Red River uses it. If they were a national power in something year in and year out (at the HS level), where we would have an identity crisis, i would have second thoughts, but they're not, and i don't.So I should flip a coin then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I will vote for Roughriders. The Fighting Hawks name, although I could live with it, is something chosen by a consultant and the president. I want something unique. Hawks is not unique.Either way, I support the university and its athletic teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoiseInsideMyHead Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2015 I will vote for Roughriders. The Fighting Hawks name, although I could live with it, is something chosen by a consultantcommittee and the presidentvoters. I want something unique. Hawks is not unique.Either way, I support the university and its athletic teams. FYP. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 FYP.Exactly. a lot of people seem to be having a hard time grasping the reality that Roughriders is not nearly popular enough to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndamukong_sioux Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 So, the other universities that have "bird" nicknames are childish and/or have immature fan bases? UND is no more privileged than:Air Force FalconsBall State CardinalsBoston College EaglesBowling Green FalconsEastern Michigan EaglesFlorida Atlantic OwlsGeorgia Southern EaglesLouisiana-Monroe WarhawksLouisville CardinalsMiami (OH) RedhawksOregon DucksRick OwlsSouth Carolina GamecocksSouthern Miss Golden EaglesTemple Owls Yes, there are a lot of "bird-related" nicknames, but most of the schools have identifiable logos and, most importantly, do just fine with their athletics. UND can do just fine with marketing and promotions as the Fighting Hawks. Furthermore, UND can be successful on the field, ice, and court as the Fighting Hawks. This guy gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 As has been demonstrated, the University can have success without a nickname at all - clearly it will keep having success no matter the nickname. My childish comment was directed at the fact that there simply is nothing unique about it. Just be be ready to accept that when one hears talk of the 'Hawks' in an airport, it most likely will not be in reference to North Dakota. Sioux did that, and Roughriders would do that.Hawks is so overdone in hockey and football circles that RPI is known as "the engineers" in those sports, and red Hawks in other sports. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 As long as it is a vote for Roughriders, right?So, just like politics, if you don't vote, then no complaining. Got it. That's what he's saying... Do vote, if you're going to vote for Riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Here's my question, if Fighting Hawks is so bad, why did it win the last two nickname votes? Just throwing it out there. Obviously, someone likes this nickname or it wouldn't be winning. Also, the poll on Sioux Sports, might not be representative of the UND fans base. Edited November 9, 2015 by Goon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoiseInsideMyHead Posted November 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2015 Here's my question, if Fighting Hawks is so bad, why did it win the last two nickname votes? Just throwing it out there. And would anyone have guessed the level of disconnect between this site and the UND community at large? Posters on here tend to be a zealous lot, naturally, but I am surprised how little predictive value these discussions have had. Maybe we sports fans are truly on the fringe. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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