petey23 Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Where was this advice when petey23 was 18-19 years old. Oops. I think petey23 might have just went third person there. Crap I just did it again. Quote
Rick Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Oops. I think petey23 might have just went third person there. Crap I just did it again.Herschel Walker....is that you?? :-) Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Third person? I thought the master of that was Bob Dole. Quote
petey23 Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Third person? I thought the master of that was Bob Dole. My rankings1. Herschel Walker2. Bob Dole3. LeBron James4. Platinum......I can neither confirm or deny that she may be a "dancer" at Sugar Daddy's just north of St. Cloud5. The Rock6. Jimmy from Seinfeld7. petey23 Quote
Maddogg1971 Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Well, he used to work for the government, he hasn't held political office for awhile. And that is a very ignorant statement. Judge the individual on his or her merits.Calm down just a snidget. I meant Kelly not Ed. Ed is awesome. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Calm down just a snidget. I meant Kelly not Ed. Ed is awesome.Okay, it sounded like you were talking about Ed. My bad. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Taking a big salary is a <insert feminine hygiene product of choice here> move. More power to him, of course, but he also had the power to take much less.http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/3895700-ed-schafer-signs-almost-six-months-undEd Schafer will make $33,216 monthly...Lest we forget...http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/featured-columnists/3884216-onlooker-not-perfect-perhaps-best-choice-undAlthough he has personal wealth... Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Taking a big salary is a <insert feminine hygiene product of choice here> move. More power to him, of course, but he also had the power to take much less.http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/3895700-ed-schafer-signs-almost-six-months-undLest we forget...http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/featured-columnists/3884216-onlooker-not-perfect-perhaps-best-choice-undWhat was that saying about "other people's money"? Apparently, that principle only applies if everyone else's ox is getting gored. Quote
runaroundsioux Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 So he's basically getting paid the same as Kelly? What an outrage.Before you jump all over me saying it's more than Kelly gets. Kelly's base salary is $350,216 PLUS benefits (pension,insurance,etc.). Which added together probably comes in at more than $33,000 a month. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 So he's basically getting paid the same as Kelly? What an outrage.Before you jump all over me saying it's more than Kelly gets. Kelly's base salary is $350,216 PLUS benefits (pension,insurance,etc.). Which added together probably comes in at more than $33,000 a month.It's a generous package for an interim 'chair-warming' gig, at a school facing a budget shortfall, in a state facing badly-missed revenue projections.I think what this amounts to is conditioning for the fact that the next president will be paid considerably more than Kelley has been, and we all know how popular the NDUS leadership has been in certain circles around the state. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 It's a generous package for an interim 'chair-warming' gig, at a school facing a budget shortfall, in a state facing badly-missed revenue projections.I think what this amounts to is conditioning for the fact that the next president will be paid considerably more than Kelley has been, and we all know how popular the NDUS leadership has been in certain circles around the state.My sources said Whiskey Joe brokered the deal for Ed.................. Quote
petey23 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 My sources said Whiskey Joe brokered the deal for Ed..................I thought he was in WITSEC Quote
siouxjoy Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Taking a big salary is a <insert feminine hygiene product of choice here> move. More power to him, of course, but he also had the power to take much less.http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/3895700-ed-schafer-signs-almost-six-months-undLest we forget...http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/featured-columnists/3884216-onlooker-not-perfect-perhaps-best-choice-undWhere exactly does the article state that he demanded that salary? Maybe your ire should be directed to the Board for wasting mmoney by offering too much to an interim... Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Where exactly does the article state that he demanded that salary? Maybe your ire should be directed to the Board for wasting mmoney by offering too much to an interim...Reading comprehension may not be your strong suit. Who said anything about demanding? All we know is what he took. And it stands to reason that he could have taken less. No ire there; I begrudge no one the opportunity to make money.If I remember correctly, everybody wet their pants when this guy was hired because he was the home-grown, affable, friend to all. What he lacked in academic credentials he more than made up for in character and integrity. He would bridge the gap, and heal the divide. Walk on water. All that stuff. Now if he doesn't move mountains, he'll just be another overpaid "educrat", hired without broad faculty support, and earning some $200k for what, six months of cutting ribbons?A lot of household names, a-listers, celebrities, token hires, and others who don't need the money voluntarily choose to draw a salary below market (sometimes well below) when they take an honorary or leadership position. I thought that might have been the noble gesture here. Quote
Milford torgerson Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) A lot of household names, a-listers, celebrities, token hires, and others who don't need the money voluntarily choose to draw a salary below market (sometimes well below) when they take an honorary or leadership position. I thought that might have been the noble gesture here.Some people are just entitled. Kudos to the Hearld for actually reporting pertinent info to us commoners Edited December 4, 2015 by Milford torgerson because Quote
Cratter Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) A lot of celebrities who don't need the money voluntarily choose to draw a salary below market (sometimes well below) when they take an honorary or leadership position. I thought that might have been the noble gesture here.Like Josh Duhamel only charging the state of North Dakota $500,000 for his week worth of work? Edited December 4, 2015 by Cratter Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Like Josh Duhamel only charging the state of North Dakota $500,000 for his weeks worth of work?No disagreement here. That was beyond tacky and he wins the ND Summer's Eve Disposable of the Year Award in my book. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 For all of his political savvy, I'm surprised that Schafer would so soon take an anti-establishment stand on a higher ed issue that was trounced not once but twice in Bismarck in the past few sessions. Heck, I hope he can pull it off, but it would take a miracle in the House.http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3895892-schafer-nd-should-look-keeping-und-president-applicants-names-public-viewThe Senate passed a bill in 2009, but it failed in the House. A broader bill that also would have shielded the names of applicants – except for the three finalists – for college vice presidents, chancellors and vice chancellors and other top education positions died in the House on a 12-78 vote in January. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 If you want Ed for more than interim, you need to show the academy at UND that he's worth it.He'll prove it in person when he's there, but as much as academics say "it's not about money" ... dare I say BS. It's all about money to them. If the ND SBoHE wasn't paying Schafer at par with what Kelley was making* the academics wouldn't respect him. *PS - Paying Ed what Kelley was making has ... get ready for this ... zero net impact on UND's planned budget for the year. Was Ed supposed to do this gratis? 1 Quote
homer Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 No disagreement here. That was beyond tacky and he wins the ND Summer's Eve Disposable of the Year Award in my book.I can't think of an example of a "celebrity" taking a lot less money when moving into a leadership role with responsibility. Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I can't think of an example of a "celebrity" taking a lot less money when moving into a leadership role with responsibility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_career_of_Arnold_SchwarzeneggerSchwarzenegger also called the state legislature into a special session and said that spending cuts would also be necessary. He initiated the cuts by agreeing to serve as governor with no salary, a saving of $175,000 (USD) per year. Quote
ericpnelson Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_career_of_Arnold_SchwarzeneggerFor political positions, I think it's actually undemocratic to serve in office without pay. It becomes a deal where those who can't afford to make the political statement as hurt, making the process even more narrow. Quote
dagies Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I have a long history in the temp staffing industry. In many cases, temp professionals get a bigger paycheck than company direct employees for doing the same job. Why? fewer benefits, less security/stability.....Someone asked Ed if he'd step in and help out for an interim period. Only makes sense that he gets paid commensurate to what others would get in that job plus a little more to get him away from whatever else he was doing (even if it was nothing). Quote
Blackheart Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I can't think of an example of a "celebrity" taking a lot less money when moving into a leadership role with responsibility. How about when Barry Alvarez served as interim football coach during a recent Badger bowl game? Oh wait, I guess he jacked UW for about 50k for that one game. Quote
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