JohnboyND7 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 As well you should! Lol How many points will you give her on this game? Her interest level in sports is next to none. I'd give her 17.
Hayduke Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Her interest level in sports is next to none. I'd give her 17. I'd like the win, but I'd be okay to beat that spread. I was thinking 20. I'll get ripped for that...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I'd like the win, but I'd be okay to beat that spread. I was thinking 20. I'll get ripped for that... As long as UND doesn't get embarrassed, the UND folks I know will be very happy.
geaux_sioux Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 I'd like the win, but I'd be okay to beat that spread. I was thinking 20. I'll get ripped for that... Why would you get ripped? We don't have a complete team yet. 2
The Sicatoka Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 You drive a big truck to compensate or??? I thought driving a big truck made you an eco-terrorist, consuming fossil fuels and damaging "Mother Earth" and all --> rollin' coal.
jdub27 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I'd like the win, but I'd be okay to beat that spread. I was thinking 20. I'll get ripped for that... Last I saw, Montana was a 14-15 point underdog at home against NDSU for the FCS kickoff game. You should be able to get more than 20 points.
UND-1 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Last I saw, Montana was a 14-15 point underdog at home against NDSU for the FCS kickoff game. You should be able to get more than 20 points. Exactly. NDSU is currently a 16 point favorite over Montana in Missoula. UND will be around a 27 point dog in Fargo.
Hayduke Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Exactly. NDSU is currently a 16 point favorite over Montana in Missoula. UND will be around a 27 point dog in Fargo. Might be..we'll have to see how the beginning of the season pans out.
petey23 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I'm not doubting you, I just wanted to know why the veer offense would be hard to fund scholly-wise? More skill position players in the backfield? Just curious...I remember having 2 conversations on this back in the day. One with a couple guys who were pretty tight with the Bison program and another was with a UND coach and both had similar take on it.Mostly with having a lot of scholarships tied up in QB's as they got hit a lot and you had to have depth for current roster as well as for future, RB's since you had to have good depth as even on plays you didn't run the ball you usually had more blocking assignments than a traditional RB may have as you were usually helping on linemen or getting to the linebackers and secondary....so you had to play quite a few RB in every game and again have depth in case of injuries, and you needed several Linemen as running option is a pretty active offense for linemen as well and you needed to be 2 deep or at least have a solid 8 for every game and also be prepared for injuries as well and when D2 cut scholarships it made it tough for everyone who had been fully funding football at the D2 level and even tougher on teams who ran "option" type offenses.When Babich came in, one of the first things he did was to gradually move their offense in a different direction.
JohnboyND7 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 When Babich came in, one of the first things he did was to gradually move their offense in a different direction. The nerve of some people.... Honestly I'm a very big fan of option football. Makes you very difficult to prepare for, even disciplined defenses have trouble at the college level. Anytime Navy, chAir Force, or Georgia Tech are on TV I try to watch.
The Sicatoka Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 The nerve of some people.... Honestly I'm a very big fan of option football. Makes you very difficult to prepare for, even disciplined defenses have trouble at the college level. Anytime Navy, chAir Force, or Georgia Tech are on TV I try to watch. True, but you also had better take the opening kickoff and score because coming from behind is not easy when you run the option.
JohnboyND7 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 True, but you also had better take the opening kickoff and score because coming from behind is not easy when you run the option. No reason to panic unless you are down by a few scores.
The Sicatoka Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 If you're an option team, and you're down 21-10 in the third quarter, and you don't have the ball, you're in trouble.
molden Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 The veer served the Bison very well for quite a while. It takes a very special athlete at QB to make it dominant. We had two guys who made it run like a fine clock, resulting in 5 national championships. We lost the third potential national championship QB to a serious knee injury. He wasn't even hit. Time ran out for the veer.
petey23 Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 The veer served the Bison very well for quite a while. It takes a very special athlete at QB to make it dominant. We had two guys who made it run like a fine clock, resulting in 5 national championships. We lost the third potential national championship QB to a serious knee injury. He wasn't even hit. Time ran out for the veer.And having 2 stud running backs and a stud fullback to join the QB in the backfield didn't hurt either.....not to mention Wide Outs who didn't mind not catching balls but relished blocking downfield.....growing up a Nebraska fan I have to admit I was a fan of watching the option offense.
molden Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 And having 2 stud running backs and a stud fullback to join the QB in the backfield didn't hurt either.....not to mention Wide Outs who didn't mind not catching balls but relished blocking downfield.....growing up a Nebraska fan I have to admit I was a fan of watching the option offense. And having 2 or more stud running backs to back up the backs didn't hurt either. It was running back by committee most of the time. The best teams of that era had DI athletes in the backfield and others sprinkled around the rest of the team. Simdorn and Bentrim were DI athletes that would have played another position with many DI programs.
JohnboyND7 Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 And having 2 or more stud running backs to back up the backs didn't hurt either. It was running back by committee most of the time. The best teams of that era had DI athletes in the backfield and others sprinkled around the rest of the team. Simdorn and Bentrim were DI athletes that would have played another position with many DI programs. Option was still common at division 1 at the time, I think they were probably just "misses" by bigger programs. And who knows, maybe they would have struggled at a higher level. Lots of variables to consider.
Teeder11 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Mel Kiper has NDSU QB Carson Wentz as the No. 3 best QB on his very very early draft board for 2016. Impressive.
jdub27 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Mel Kiper has NDSU QB Carson Wentz as the No. 3 best QB on his very very early draft board for 2016. Impressive. Small clarification, No. 3 senior QB. Still incredibly impressive.
Teeder11 Posted June 24, 2015 Posted June 24, 2015 Small clarification, No. 3 senior QB. Still incredibly impressive. Yes, indeed, thanks.... I always assume everyone sticks around all four years like in the good ol' days.
Rory Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Mel Kiper has NDSU QB Carson Wentz as the No. 3 best QB on his very very early draft board for 2016. Impressive. But Johnboy said he is just average.
bison73 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 But Johnboy said he is just average. Johnboy hasnt been on this planet long enough to make an informed opinion. Plus he likes to troll both sides of the fence.
jdub27 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I'm already seeing and hearing excuses and claims of how UND will play dirty. Also a handful of #hottakes on some plays from the Montana game from last year from a bunch of geniuses who didn't see a single second of the game. What a bunch of garbage. Glad Schmidt's defense already has the fans thinking about a physical game. Can't wait to see what he has drawn up to bring pressure out of the 3-4.
darell1976 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I'm already seeing and hearing excuses and claims of how UND will play dirty. Also a handful of #hottakes on some plays from the Montana game from last year from a bunch of geniuses who didn't see a single second of the game. What a bunch of garbage. Glad Schmidt's defense already has the fans thinking about a physical game. Can't wait to see what he has drawn up to bring pressure out of the 3-4. Let the excuses roll, they will have excuses for everything if the game is close or if UND wins. I think I heard them all from 1993-2003.
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Let the excuses roll, they will have excuses for everything if the game is close or if UND wins. I think I heard them all from 1993-2003. "It was their Superbowl" "It's just a non conference game, conference games are way more important" "I'd rather lose now than in the playoffs, so this loss is not that bad" Some new ones for you maybe!!
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