fightingsioux4life Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?33998-UMKC-Summit-League From Bisonville UMKC may be rejoining the SL: This will make the Slummit even more of a joke than it already is. Oh, wait for it....#ButtRPI. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 This will make the Slummit even more of a joke than it already is. Oh, wait for it....#ButtRPI. Lakes is pumped because of the KC market, too bad they only care about KU and Mizzou and not UMKC. 3 Quote
nodak651 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 I saw SL and stuck it here without starting a new one or going further back. Oh well. Gotcha... I feel like a dick now, because I didn't notice that this was an old thread - thought siouxvolley created this one today, while the Summit is stable. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Gotcha... I feel like a dick now, because I didn't notice that this was an old thread - thought siouxvolley created this one today, while the Summit is stable. No problem. Quote
cberkas Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Lakes is pumped because of the KC market, too bad they only care about KU and Mizzou and not UMKC. Kansas City wants the Mizzou KU feud to end so they can have the rivalry games in football and basketball there like when Mizzou and Illinois play each other in St. Louis. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Sooo... What was the point of UMKC moving to the WAC if they were just going to go back to summit. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Sooo... What was the point of UMKC moving to the WAC if they were just going to go back to summit. Yeah never quite understood that one. Unless they felt more competitive in the WAC but guess not. Quote
jdub27 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Sooo... What was the point of UMKC moving to the WAC if they were just going to go back to summit. It was all part of Douple's master plan. Actually I think that the WAC offered UMKC some incentives to jump ship and it didn't work out as they had planned. Quote
UND-1 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Why not leave and try something else? The Summit will always take them back and they know it. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 This would save UMKC travel costs versus the WAC. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 MBB for UMKC 2013-14: 10-20 (7-9 WAC) 2012-13: 8-24 (5-11 SL) In 27 seasons of DI basketball 328-455 .419 or 12 wins a season on average. Most wins in a season 18 in 2001-02 season 18-11. Last winning season 2010-11 16-14 First game for UND joining DI in 2008 was at UMKC....UND won 61-56. Just a little info on the Kangaroos. Quote
FSSD Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Sooo... What was the point of UMKC moving to the WAC if they were just going to go back to summit. Obviously they missed being called Kansas City vs UMKC. The WAC said why would we do that and so they took off for the Slummit. Some of you are over thinking this.. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 UND now has to be concerned that there will not be a WAC home for baseball and M/W swimming, as losing UMKC would mean the WAC is down to seven members (and only six are full DI members - Grand Canyon is still transitioning). Swimming can probably find a home in the Mountain Pacific Federation, but baseball would be sluck in the Slummit. Oral Roberts returning to the Slummit saved it, as the Slummit got the six baseball members it had to have. The Slummit is a revolving door conference, that is for sure. Every year that passes, their memberships changes by one school based on historical averages. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 no conference for baseball no problem..drop it and add lacrosse! 1 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 no conference for baseball no problem..drop it and add lacrosse! I would agree. But currently there is no league that UND could join for lacrosse either. If some PAC12 and MWC school start lax, that would change the whole equation. Denver is in the Big East for lax, and Air Force is in a smaller East Coast Conference. Quote
cberkas Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 I would agree. But currently there is no league that UND could join for lacrosse either. If some PAC12 and MWC school start lax, that would change the whole equation. Denver is in the Big East for lax, and Air Force is in a smaller East Coast Conference. Denver is in the ECAC for Lacrosse. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 http://www.bigeast.com/ot/bige-13-standings.html Last spring was Denver's first year as an affiliate lax school in the Big East. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 no conference for baseball no problem..drop it and add lacrosse! Or drop it and take that money and/or scholarships and spread it to other sports. Quote
#MACtion Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Without having football, guess the fear is that DU would pour money into basketball and dominate Montana and Weber St (so those two probably very much opposed changing the rules). Denver spends as much or more on Hockey than Montana does on FCS Football. It would be a wash, so I don't understand what the problem would be with Montana. Quote
Herd Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Denver spends as much or more on Hockey than Montana does on FCS Football. It would be a wash, so I don't understand what the problem would be with Montana. Stupid move by Fullerton. He single handedly made sure that the Summit would both have life, and that the BSC would be buried below them in the Basketball standings by saying NO to Denver. The Summit will be perenniel top half 16 of 32 conference with Denver & ORU in the fold. Quote
UND1983 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Stupid move by Fullerton. He single handedly made sure that the Summit would both have life, and that the BSC would be buried below them in the Basketball standings by saying NO to Denver. The Summit will be perenniel top half 16 of 32 conference with Denver & ORU in the fold. Easy to say when your in a conference without football. 2 Quote
darell1976 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Stupid move by Fullerton. He single handedly made sure that the Summit would both have life, and that the BSC would be buried below them in the Basketball standings by saying NO to Denver. The Summit will be perenniel top half 16 of 32 conference with Denver & ORU in the fold. Just remember you are regaining basketball powerhouse UMKC...oh sorry as Douple would say Kansas City. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 Denver spends as much or more on Hockey than Montana does on FCS Football. It would be a wash, so I don't understand what the problem would be with Montana. It might have been schools like No Col and Weber St that objected to Denver and Seattle. Certainly someone did, and the Big Sky intended the WAC to survive. Denver hated the idea of GCU in the WAC, so it left. Denver might say they spend all kinds of money on lacrosse, but much of that is for scholarships and DU might just be waiving the cost of 40k tuitions. The coaches pay, equipment, and travel are certainly real dollars. If the Big Sky splits into FBS and FCS, I'd like to see Denver and Seattle in the FBS Big Sky. That would help for BB markets and keep Denver close at hand for hockey. Denver preferred the Big Sky to the Summit, and if the Big Sky jettisons the most of teachers colleges that's all the better. FBS Big Sky UC Davis - Sac St Portland St - Seattle EWU - Idaho Montana - Montana St UND - NDSU Denver - Cal Poly The WAC can have Idaho St, Weber St, SUU, NAU, and UNC to go with GCU, UVU, Bakersfield, and UTRGV. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 It might have been schools like No Col and Weber St that objected to Denver and Seattle. Certainly someone did, and the Big Sky intended the WAC to survive. Denver hated the idea of GCU in the WAC, so it left. Denver might say they spend all kinds of money on lacrosse, but much of that is for scholarships and DU might just be waiving the cost of 40k tuitions. The coaches pay, equipment, and travel are certainly real dollars. If the Big Sky splits into FBS and FCS, I'd like to see Denver and Seattle in the FBS Big Sky. That would help for BB markets and keep Denver close at hand for hockey. Denver preferred the Big Sky to the Summit, and if the Big Sky jettisons the most of teachers colleges that's all the better. FBS Big Sky UC Davis - Sac St Portland St - Seattle EWU - Idaho Montana - Montana St UND - NDSU Denver - Cal Poly The WAC can have Idaho St, Weber St, SUU, NAU, and UNC to go with GCU, UVU, Bakersfield, and UTRGV. UTRGV?? Quote
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