tho0505 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Who would you choose as an All Time Sioux Greats Roster, if you're limited to 23 players total including goalies? Here is my roster, I took in consideration first and foremost production at UND, leadership, and championships. I used some consideration of their production in the NHL (see Ed Belfour top 5 goalie in the history of the NHL had to make the list despite 1 season at UND). Here's my roster: 5 Jason Blake C 7 Troy Murray C 8 Doug Smail RW 9 Greg Johnson C 9 Jonathan Toews C 11 Zach Parise LW 11 Dixon Ward RW 11 Teeder Wynne C 16 Ryan Duncan RW 17 Jeff Panzer C 20 Bob Joyce LW 21 Tony Hrkac C 21 Matt Frattin RW 2 Matt Greene D 6 Nick Namenko D 7 Brad Bombardir D 5 Chay Genoway D 2 Curtis Murphy D 6 Ian Kidd D 3 James Patrick D 35 Jon Casey G 1 Karl Goehring G 29 Ed Belfour G Honorable Mentions 7 TJ Oshie LW 18 Drew Stafford RW Travis Zajac C Dave Christian LW 13 Landon Wilson RW 7 Danny Kristo LW 10 Corban Knight C 22 Mike Commodore D 2 Dave Hakstol D 34 JP Lamoureux G 25 Phil Sykes F Mark Taylor F Cary Eades RW Keep in mind, I grew up watching and attending games in the 90s as a kid. So players like Wynne, Bombardir, and Namenko were some of my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 My roster, easier to view 5 Jason Blake C 7 Troy Murray C 8 Doug Smail RW 9 Greg Johnson C 9 Jonathan Toews C 11 Zach Parise LW 11 Dixon Ward RW 11 Teeder Wynne C 16 Ryan Duncan RW 17 Jeff Panzer C 20 Bob Joyce LW 21 Tony Hrkac C 21 Matt Frattin RW 2 Matt Greene D 6 Nick Namenko D 7 Brad Bombardir D 5 Chay Genoway D 2 Curtis Murphy D 6 Ian Kidd D 3 James Patrick D 35 Jon Casey G 1 Karl Goehring G 29 Ed Belfour G Honorable Mentions 7 TJ Oshie LW 18 Drew Stafford RW Travis Zajac C Dave Christian LW 13 Landon Wilson RW 7 Danny Kristo LW 10 Corban Knight C 22 Mike Commodore D 2 Dave Hakstol D 34 JP Lamoureux G 25 Phil Sykes F Mark Taylor F Cary Eades RW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Naumenko was one of my favorites to watch; however, I don't recall another D man as slick as Travis Roche since he played here. He'd be in the conversation for me, as well as maybe Brad Williamson. For sure Lee Goren is on my list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxu31 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Steve Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 The honorable mention list could go on for pages, thats why its so tough to pin down a 23 team roster. As you'll notice I dont have anyone who played for UND prior to 1979, thats crazy considering the titles we had as well before than. That's how great UND's tradition of players is. I starting doing a All time list for a couple WHL teams (as I live out west) Tri City Americans (Carey Price, Olaf Kolzig, Stu Barnes) and Spokane Chiefs (Grabner, Tyler Johnson, Kyle Beach), and I had trouble coming up with a 23 man roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 My only issue is the program started in the 1940s, not 1980. We had a number of great players in the earlier generations. EDIT: You beat me to the punch on the pre-1980 comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Archie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 How about: Don Ross Bill Reichart Gordon Christian Bill Steenson Ben Cherski John Noah Just to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mine is more recent based since I am only 22 and didn't get a chance to see a lot of the greats from the 1980's and earlier. I went with a mix of very good players and some of the guys I enjoyed watching most and like everyone has said a lot more that could gone on a honorable mention list. I went with only 2 goalies because I didn't want to take any of my forwards off this roster. Zach Parise-Drew Stafford-Brandon Bochenski Ryan Duncan-Jonathan Toews- T.J. Oshie Chris VandeVelde- Corban Knight- Jason Gregoire Evan Trupp- Brad Malone- Matt Frattin Danny Kristo-Travis Zajac Taylor Chorney- Robbie Bina Chay Genoway- Matt Greene Matt Smaby-Mike Commodore Travis Roche Karl Goehring Jean-Philippe Lamoureux A few guys on my honorable mention list- Matt Jones, Brock Nelson, Ryan Bayda, David Hale, Jordan Parise, and many other guys that could be added to this list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 How about: Don Ross Bill Reichart Gordon Christian Bill Steenson Ben Cherski John Noah Just to name a few. But who do you remove from my roster then? Wynne, Namenko, and Bombarbier can go, but who else do you remove? Maybe Toews, but can you really move anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think maybe a more fair thing to do since there are so many great Sioux players, is to break the all time rosters up by decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmail Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 This is TOUGH - but I'll give it my best shot............ Forwards Hrkac - Joyce - Pelawa (taking a bit of respectful liberty here, I know... I think it would have been incredible) J. Toews - G. Johnson - Jeff Panzer Blake - D. Christian - G. Christian Eades - Archibald - Duncan Smail - Taylor Defense Commodore - Greene Kidd - Patrick Chorney - Nomenko Bombardir Goal Goehring Belfour Coach May, Blais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 SPARKY!! Somewhere? Surely there is a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gma loves hockey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Craig Ludwig spent a lot of time in the NHL and is on the Stanley cup. Does he fit in here anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 why not do a couple different all quarter century teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchmaker49 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Archie? Definitely one of greatest all around players of all time. People forget the numbers he put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Craig Ludwig spent a lot of time in the NHL and is on the Stanley cup. Does he fit in here anywhere? Only issue I have with an All Time Great Sioux team is the players need to have made a major impact at UND, not necessarily after. Factoring in a successful pro career is good, but what was there impact at UND and for UND. Doing decade teams would be far easier than an overall team, but its still fun to see who people would take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Only issue I have with an All Time Great Sioux team is the players need to have made a major impact at UND, not necessarily after. Factoring in a successful pro career is good, but what was there impact at UND and for UND. Doing decade teams would be far easier than an overall team, but its still fun to see who people would take. If for UND is part of the criteria....how is Ralph not on every team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If for UND is part of the criteria....how is Ralph not on every team? There'd be no Ralph if there wasn't a Purpur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 If for UND is part of the criteria....how is Ralph not on every team? FOR UND is PART of the criteria, not the entire criteria. I talking about Belfour, he won a title at UND. But only played one season. Looking at numbers, JP Lamoureux should probably make the team before him (wins at UND, time spent, save %, GAA). Same thing could be said about Toews. But overall when you take in what Belfour has done having his name attached to the program, you got to take Belfour. That's the FOR I'm taking about. Playing in only 12 games and giving millions of dollars to a school doesn't make you part of the All Time Greats roster. He has done wonderful things for the program, no doubt, but he still wouldn't find a spot on my roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 More honorable mentions...Jon Casey, Kevin Maxwell, Howard Walker...(Walker gets in just based on his awesome 'stache....nobody rocked the 'fu' like him ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 More honorable mentions...Jon Casey, Kevin Maxwell, Howard Walker...(Walker gets in just based on his awesome 'stache....nobody rocked the 'fu' like him ) Good call, I have Jon Casey starting over Goehring and Belfour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If for UND is part of the criteria....how is Ralph not on every team? Anyone that puts Ralph Engelstad on their version of an all-time team should get a DQ just for that. Our whole program has begun to revolve around Ralph Engelstad, the number "23", Ralph Engelstad Arena and UND players in the NHL and that is not a healthy dynamic. Please people, limit your selections to players that made a difference in winning games and championships. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Ill go with the NEW RALPH ERA for my list to keep it more simple... my grinder line would be McMahon-Prpich-Kaip What do the 3 players listed above all have in common when they played for UND?? FORWARDS Zach Parise Tj Oshie Jason Gregoire Brandon Bochenski Jonathan Toews Rastislov Spirko Ryan Duncan Brock Nelson Travis Zajac Mike Prpich Danny Kristo Rory McMahon Ryan Kaip Matt Frattin Corban Knight Brad Malone DEFENSEMEN Matt Greene Ben Blood Andrew Macwilliam Matt Jones Andy Schneider Chay Genoway Robbie Bina GOALIES JPL Jake Brandt ACTUAL 3rd Stringer- Tate Maris (based off the funniest twitter account, plays music and operates the most efficient bench door in the nation) #thirdstringproblems ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I missed the pre-1984 guys, but since then three guys that to me towered over college hockey in their last seasons were: Hrkac Jeff Panzer Frattin Each was the best player in college hockey by a pretty fair stretch. That's who I would start with. Other thoughts: Toews was silky smooth in a way I haven't seen before or since. Odd that Steve Johnson hasn't gotten much love, as he did lead the nation in scoring his senior year. Although I didn't see them play, I have to think Taylor, Smail and Murray probably belong on these lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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