supersioux Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 You don't lose a starting job to injury. I know it's an old cliche but it's true. Does anyone remember how good he was until he had the fluke injury? 13 of 14. There is a reason he won the job. He's a better QB. I seem to remember Tom Brady getting his chance because of an injury and keeping the starting job once the other QB got heathly. Sometimes someones game performance changes the depth chart. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 How about the Kurt Warner story. From bagging groceries to Arena Football to the NFL. When Trent Green went down Rams fans thought the season was over. Warner took them to a Superbowl victory. Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 We know for sure that Hendrickson was #3 on the depth chart prior to Bradley's departure and going into fall camp. Wayne Nelson confirmed it as well. What we didn't know was that Hendrickson would have passed up Bradley on the depth chart eventually this year anyways. I'm ecstatic that we have 2......and I feel confident in saying this right now......great QB's. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I seem to remember Tom Brady getting his chance because of an injury and keeping the starting job once the other QB got heathly. Sometimes someones game performance changes the depth chart. Bledsoe wasn't that good though. Hanson has actually looked like a surgeon behind center. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Bottom line...there is no controversy this Saturday. Marcus is starting and if he continues to play like he has, UND will win...even if the D continues to play like it has. Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 What about this? Marcus keeps playing at a high level and then we medical Braden? I think that would be great for the overall program. If the other schools allow it, I don't see why they wouldn't. That would let the 2 young qbs get another year under their belt, and we would have a solid starter for another year. Just a thought. Quote
darell1976 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 What about this? Marcus keeps playing at a high level and then we medical Braden? I think that would be great for the overall program. If the other schools allow it, I don't see why they wouldn't. That would let the 2 young qbs get another year under their belt, and we would have a solid starter for another year. Just a thought. Can we do that?? Who would be the permanent backup for the rest of the year? Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Yes we could ask for it, doesn't mean it will be granted. Pray that Marcus stays healthy. Also, huge factor is if Braden would want to do it? Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Also, if Marcus gets hurt, then you put Braden in. As long as Braden doesn't play for the rest of the year he can apply, pretty sure. Quote
Let'sGoHawks! Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Can Braden redshirt again? I seem to remember something different in football if they have already redshirted (he did at UNC). Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Yes we could ask for it, doesn't mean it will be granted. Pray that Marcus stays healthy. Also, huge factor is if Braden would want to do it? He's going to Graduate school here right? That was one of the factors that brought him here. He is gonna be on campus next year anyway. Not a bad idea. Only question is, as mentioned, who is the backup? Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Can Braden redshirt again? I seem to remember something different in football if they have already redshirted (he did at UNC). You can redhirt and have a medical redshirt I believe. That's how you get guys in a program for 6 years. Anyone got any knowledge on this? Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Medical "hardship/redshirt" is totally different. I don't think they have to declare anything yet? Quote
jdub27 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Also, if Marcus gets hurt, then you put Braden in. As long as Braden doesn't play for the rest of the year he can apply, pretty sure. Can apply, yes. Granted, less likely. Redical medshirts are looked at a lot more closely and it usually has to be a season ending injury very early in the year. With how the coaches have been talking and Hansen back at practice, not sure if the NCAA would grant one. Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Well, I guess I would pull the redshirt off the lesser of the 2 young ones, then have the better of the 2 be the back up next year, and redshirt the one that played this year. No matter what, were bringing in a juco qb next year. You would think! Quote
SIOUX29 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Surgery, setbacks? Thought it was coming along well and then there was a setback, we can be creative. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 The NCAA looks very closely at medical records for medical redshirts. The player has to be injured enough to not be able to play again that season. This injury isn't going to make that level. The mere fact that Hanson is going to be in uniform this week as a backup would probably eliminate any chance of getting the medical redshirt. There isn't any creativity in medical redshirts. Quote
undfb1 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Not really the case for younger players, but starters I suspect it is. I received a medical my second year, after a first year redshirt. I wouldn't have played anyway that season but it was granted for a separated shoulder and broken hand, both of which I practiced with all year. Only dressed in home games... In Hanson's case there is more scrutiny as he is a starter, traveling with the team making the situation of eligibility clear that he would be capable of being on the field. They wouldn't allow sandbagging for the sake of the program. As far as the 6th season goes, you only have 10 semesters of eligibility. So the 6th year requires a part-time situation in the spring (under 12 credits) while still having passed 24 credits in the prior school year to participate in the 6th fall camp and play. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Not really the case for younger players, but starters I suspect it is. I received a medical my second year, after a first year redshirt. I wouldn't have played anyway that season but it was granted for a separated shoulder and broken hand, both of which I practiced with all year. Only dressed in home games... In Hanson's case there is more scrutiny as he is a starter, traveling with the team making the situation of eligibility clear that he would be capable of being on the field. They wouldn't allow sandbagging for the sake of the program. As far as the 6th season goes, you only have 10 semesters of eligibility. So the 6th year requires a part-time situation in the spring (under 12 credits) while still having passed 24 credits in the prior school year to participate in the 6th fall camp and play. You're right. Expecting a redshirt freshman to play would be questionable. The NCAA wouldn't pay as much attention in this case. But when a starter is injured in the opening game, and the injury is only expected to keep them out for a few games, it would raise a lot of red flags for the NCAA if they applied for a medical redshirt. Quote
southpaw Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 With Marcus' performance today... I think Hansen definitely gets the start next week vs Poly. Quote
Dagger Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Marcus did a lot of good things with his feet but did miss some receivers. Just an okay performance. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I wish Marcus would have at least made the discussion hard on the coaches, he showed why Braden is the dude, it's all about the consistancy. We do have one hell of a backup QB though, Quote
Sioux95 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I would think Hanson will be the clear choice next week. Still hope to see a package put in place where we can use Hendrickson once in a while to keep the defense guessing. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I would think Hanson will be the clear choice next week. Still hope to see a package put in place where we can use Hendrickson once in a while to keep the defense guessing. I'd hate to see them over-coach this situation and ruin offensive rhythm Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 unless i'm missing something but marcus is clearly the starter and will be unless the wheels completely fall off? marcus will start next week against poly for sure...there is no controversy. Quote
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