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UND officials including O'Keefe did a lot over the years to try and keep the name.

Examples? The administration was silent for the better part of the grace period, the only time any news would flare up on the nickname front was close to deadlines. Where was the campaign by the alumni association to preserve the name three years ago? We backed ourselves into a settlement and let the clock run out.

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The repeal of the nickname law has a provision that prohibits us from picking a new name until 1/1/2015.

Since the original law had no bearing with the NCAA, I would think that the provison to not be able to select a new name until 2015 is proabably not going to carry much weight with the NCAA either. I would think that the NCAA would demand UND to have a nickname in place much earlier than 2015.

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Examples? The administration was silent for the better part of the grace period, the only time any news would flare up on the nickname front was close to deadlines. Where was the campaign by the alumni association to preserve the name three years ago? We backed ourselves into a settlement and let the clock run out.

There was no need to campaign three years ago. At that time, the only people who needed convincing was the tribal council at Standing Rock. The people of North Dakota, who the recent Alumni Association campaign targeted, had no say three years ago. Could people have done more to convince Standing Rock to vote before the deadline? Maybe, we don't really know everything that went on.

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Since the original law had no bearing with the NCAA, I would think that the provison to not be able to select a new name until 2015 is proabably not going to carry much weight with the NCAA either. I would think that the NCAA would demand UND to have a nickname in place much earlier than 2015.

Since it is a state law, UND is going to follow the law. The plan for transition always included a period without a nickname. The law probably extends the period by about a year. As far as the NCAA goes, they have indicated that they are fine with UND not choosing a new nickname or logo immediately. Using UND and the revised intersecting ND will satisfy the NCAA as long as UND doesn't make any use of Native American names or imagery. Remember, the NCAA didn't consider UND under sanctions during that brief period this winter when they retired the name.
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Examples? The administration was silent for the better part of the grace period, the only time any news would flare up on the nickname front was close to deadlines. Where was the campaign by the alumni association to preserve the name three years ago? We backed ourselves into a settlement and let the clock run out.

As was noted by others, during the settlement period the only people that needed to approve the nickname were the tribes. Spirit Lake took care of themselves. The Standing Rock Tribal Council had control in Standing Rock. They refused to talk with anyone about the issue. They wouldn't talk to Archie Fool Bear, a former Tribal Council member, about the issue. A public campaign wouldn't have done anything in that case. All negotiations would have been done away from the cameras. Just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean that efforts weren't made. But the Tribal Council was very solid in supporting the removal of the name, so there was very little that could actually have been done to change their position.
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I want a coach that fights to get every advantage possible for my team. Not someone that is willing to handicap the team just to keep a sports nickname. Very few recruits were going to come to UND because they liked the nickname, and they weren't going to come to UND because UND was standing up to the NCAA. Just the word sanctions being associated with UND athletics would have kept athletes away from the school. It is hard enough to win playoff games, giving away any potential advantages is just stupid.

The nickname wasn't always meant to honor the Native American culture. It was adopted in large part because the Sioux had a history of hunting bison, and it was easy to use in chants. No effort to honor the NA's. Through the 1960's, with UND using the Sammy Sioux logo, efforts were not made to honor Native Americans. In fact, it was only in the last decade or 2 that efforts were made to connect honor to the name. That was because people didn't want to lose the name. UND fans were proud of the name before that, but there really wasn't a great connection to honoring the tribes.

You act like the effort to remove the Sioux name, or efforts to remove Native American names, is something new. The efforts started back in the 1960's. Almost every national Native American group has supported the removal of Native American sports nicknames. Colleges and high schools started dropping the names in the 1970's. The NCAA started looking at the topic in 1998 or before. The 2005 policy had the support of all national Native American groups. All regional tribes except Spirit Lake still support eliminating Native American sports nicknames. UND was caught in that movement. The only that UND had was to develop long term relationships with the local tribes. That didn't happen. So it was time to move on. Time to stop the constant fighting about the issue. Time for UND to move forward.

No it was always to honor the Native Americans dontchaknow?
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