Conference Realignments - Take 2

[nodak651]

53 minutes ago, Kab said:

Could ndsu football go FBs as an independent and try make a schedule without a conference?

the forum boys are going to need to go on meds if other teams keep getting invites and not ndsu.

 

 

Those guys are nuts.  They rip fcs fb constantly then they wonder why attendance is down.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Goon said:

YES!!!! Great move for the NCHC and great move for St. Thomas!!! 

[homer]

1 hour ago, Kab said:

Could ndsu football go FBs as an independent and try make a schedule without a conference?

the forum boys are going to need to go on meds if other teams keep getting invites and not ndsu.

 

 

Why would SDSU, USD and SDSU make it easy on them and keep their other sports in the Summit?  

[The Sicatoka]

If NDSU went Indy FBS FB, who's going to bankroll teams to come in so they have a home schedule. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

22 minutes ago, homer said:

Why would SDSU, USD and SDSU make it easy on them and keep their other sports in the Summit?  

they won't ....it's all or nothing with fenton..........

no way NDSU "parks" their only sports in the summit and had a FB invite to Mac or sun belt, or AAC....

like Jay Rock and Fenton always say...

You either with me or against me, hoe (Hoe)
You either with me or (Wait)
Win win, win, win, win (Yeah)

[SIOUXFAN97]

20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If NDSU went Indy FBS FB, who's going to bankroll teams to come in so they have a home schedule. 

Lakes?

[Kab]

1 hour ago, homer said:

Why would SDSU, USD and SDSU make it easy on them and keep their other sports in the Summit?  

I have always said if a football team goes FBs all other sports need to follow that team to the new conference 

what are the exit fees for mvfc and summit 

[Kab]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

If NDSU went Indy FBS FB, who's going to bankroll teams to come in so they have a home schedule. 

Hey, remember they are the METRO!

[The Sicatoka]

For a team to count as a member of an FBS conference you must be an all-sports member. A FB only doesn't count toward the 7 full members to be classified as an FBS conference. 

To be taken on as FB only you have to bring some other benefit like in Hawai'i's case you get to play an extra (assume home) game to pay for the trip. 

[AJS]

Love the St. Thomas addition. I do hope these leads to the Summit League absorbing the NCHC as well as a Summit League Football conference. That would be a big deal on multiple fronts. 

[nodak651]

25 minutes ago, AJS said:

Love the St. Thomas addition. I do hope these leads to the Summit League absorbing the NCHC as well as a Summit League Football conference. That would be a big deal on multiple fronts. 

Would another benefit be that it could motivate Mankato to finally move up for all sports?  

They are the best fit for the league, and they are perfect for the footprint.  They also happen to have a great hockey program.

I seriously wonder if SCSU will be able to continue sponsoring hockey at a high level given the institutional issues they have.   

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, nodak651 said:

Would another benefit be that it could motivate Mankato to finally move up for all sports?  

They are the best fit for the league, and they are perfect for the footprint.  They also happen to have a great hockey program.

I seriously wonder if SCSU will be able to continue sponsoring hockey at a high level given the institutional issues they have.   

 i hope not

[FSSD]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

Would another benefit be that it could motivate Mankato to finally move up for all sports?  

They are the best fit for the league, and they are perfect for the footprint.  They also happen to have a great hockey program.

I seriously wonder if SCSU will be able to continue sponsoring hockey at a high level given the institutional issues they have.   

They are already at CCHA level along with Miami and W. Michigan.

Institution	Conference	Primary	Hockey
University of North Dakota	NCHC	Summit	$5,453,864
University of Nebraska Omaha	NCHC	Summit	$4,910,317
University of Minnesota-Duluth	NCHC	NSIC	$4,450,551
Colorado College	NCHC	DIII	$4,117,107
University of Denver	NCHC	Summit	$4,108,526
Arizona State University	NCHC	Big XII	$3,505,282
Miami University	NCHC	MAC	$2,540,578
Saint Cloud State University	NCHC	NSIC	$2,337,159
Western Michigan University	NCHC	MAC	$2,170,025

[SiouxHawkGuy]

So how long before the MAC schools go to the CCHA and Bemidji St and Minnesota St become Summit league hockey affiliates?

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

So how long before the MAC schools go to the CCHA and Bemidji St and Minnesota St become Summit league hockey affiliates?

wouldn't have to come to that........would still have 8 without adding bsu and msu

[SIOUXFAN97]

which im all for (8 schools)....less conference reptititive playing and sprinkle in some more non conference games against schools like michigan, maine, lowell, northeastern, bc, bu,......

[nodakvindy]

51 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

So how long before the MAC schools go to the CCHA and Bemidji St and Minnesota St become Summit league hockey affiliates?

What do bemidji and mankato add to the nchc/summit hockey. No thanks. Western is a solid program that adds a good recruiting area. If Miami wants to leave I don't see an issue with negotiating a lower exit fee. Keeping a non competitive program does the league no good.  

[SIOUXFAN97]

17 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

What do bemidji and mankato add to the nchc/summit hockey. No thanks. Western is a solid program that adds a good recruiting area. If Miami wants to leave I don't see an issue with negotiating a lower exit fee. Keeping a non competitive program does the league no good.  

msu brings a very good basketball program(s), a baseball program for 6 core schools (plus unc) a travel partner for st thomas, potentially a summit league football program and a solid hockey program...they should have been in instead of scsu anyways.....

and heck maybe they even say...add us and we'll start up men's soccer to help a brother out....

can't say that about bemidji and western (being a mac school out east)

[nodakvindy]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

msu brings a very good basketball program(s), a baseball program for 6 core schools (plus unc) a travel partner for st thomas, potentially a summit league football program and a solid hockey program...they should have been in instead of scsu anyways.....

can't say that about bemidji and western (being a mac school out west)

MSU is in D2 for a reason. If they moved up they would certainly drop football a la Omaha as the dollars aren't there. Summit is most likely to pick WAC carcass or be destroyed itself. The number of viable move ups at this point is very small. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

9 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

MSU is in D2 for a reason. If they moved up they would certainly drop football a la Omaha as the dollars aren't there. Summit is most likely to pick WAC carcass or be destroyed itself. The number of viable move ups at this point is very small. 

that's why i said potential summit football program....if they drop football they would be just fine for the summit instead of uvu, utu, or suu or even unc.....

plus when glen taylor finally sells to arod he'll have plenty to spend to help out old mankato state!! billions!

[nodak651]

17 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

MSU is in D2 for a reason. If they moved up they would certainly drop football a la Omaha as the dollars aren't there. Summit is most likely to pick WAC carcass or be destroyed itself. The number of viable move ups at this point is very small. 

That's kinda the point.  Mankato without FB would be great.  If the Summit adds Hockey and Mankato, it would have the numbers in other sports so it wouldn't HAVE to take the Utah schools in order to survive.  The league would be stable.

[The Sicatoka]

Who's the guy that keeps saying to build it yourself. 

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeelys-tip-sheet-could-an-fcs-super-conference-under-summit-league-banner-spice-up-bison-football

 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

On 5/17/2024 at 1:53 PM, The Sicatoka said:

Who's the guy that keeps saying to build it yourself. 

https://www.inforum.com/sports/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/mcfeelys-tip-sheet-could-an-fcs-super-conference-under-summit-league-banner-spice-up-bison-football

 

Anyone with a subscription wanna fill me in on McFooley’s big idea?

[Kab]

Did you notice how he said that he didn’t think ndsu or sdsu would want to DRAG UND or USD with to the new conference with some of the big sky schools.

mcfooley is so full of himself.

somehow he thinks his stature will increase if ndsu is fbs.

go ahead ndsu, make the jump as an independent.

[Hawkster]

11 hours ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

Anyone with a subscription wanna fill me in on McFooley’s big idea?

Don't get too excited.  It ain't happening.

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Mike McFeely:

What if the top teams in the Valley and the top teams in the Big Sky formed an FCS super-conference, with the hope it would position those schools to move to the G5 together if that opportunity ever presented itself?

And even if they got stiffed from the G5, wouldn't an FCS super-conference still be more interesting and a better option than playing in the same league with the Murray States, Indiana States, Northern Colorados and Cal Polys of the world?

Since the Valley and Big Sky wouldn't cease to exist, maybe the new league could fall under the banner of the Summit League and commissioner Josh Fenton, who has fans among the Dakotas schools that are members of the Valley and Summit.

The chances of this actually happening are zero. Or less. But that would be one heck of an FCS football conference. And Summit League basketball would be a blast, too.

Imagine NDSU, South Dakota State, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Montana State, Idaho, Weber State and Sacramento State in the same conference.

The Sheet isn't sure if NDSU and SDSU would want to do this because they'd drag along UND and USD and we're pretty sure they don't want to do that. The Sheet believes NDSU, for sure, would prefer to go FBS by themselves and at most partner with SDSU.

The Sheet, too, realizes SDSU, Montana and Montana State might have no interest in spicing things up because their fan bases seem to remain at a fever pitch. The degradation of the FCS with James Madison, Sam Houston and others moving up only seems to concern people in Fargo.