SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, jdub27 said: He already has them in the Summit League? What are you yelling about? u need to keep up with the conference realignment more....st thomas will leave the summit for greener grass unless fenton/nchc comm get them to join nchc ...which is a deal where if thye leave for the mvc they are kicked out of the nchc...package deal.... 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, SiouxHawkGuy said: You mean patty for football? no...they get an invite to nchc with promise they won't bolt summit for mvc down the road.... 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: u need to keep up with the conference realignment more....st thomas will leave the summit for greener grass unless fenton/nchc comm get them to join nchc ...which is a deal where if thye leave for the mvc they are kicked out of the nchc...package deal.... That might actually work. Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: no...they get an invite to nchc with promise they won't bolt summit for mvc down the road.... Ahhh I see. Interesting. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: no...they get an invite to nchc with promise they won't bolt summit for mvc down the road.... Bold strategy. But I'd be interested how you draw up the paperwork that makes your conference affiliation in one sport completely contingent on remaining in a completely separate, unrelated conference. If you want to bring hockey under the Summit umbrella (not a fan of that idea), you might be on to something. Football makes more sense to bring into the fold anyway. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: That might actually work. someone else on here came up the idea...not mine. but i totally agree with it...can't have st thomas leaving like every other bigger name... 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Bold strategy. But I'd be interested how you draw up the paperwork that makes your conference affiliation in one sport completely contingent on remaining in a completely separate, unrelated conference. If you want to bring hockey under the Summit umbrella (not a fan of that idea), you might be on to something. Football makes more sense to bring into the fold anyway. any school can be kicked out...just ask........st thomas! but yeah whovever on here came up with the idea says merge everything into summitt and go from there Quote
FSSD Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Add football and Hockey to Summit League - bring in both St. Thomas and Lindenwood. Football: UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, WIU, St.T, Lindenwood - 7 teams - opens up nonconference scheduling with MVC teams. Hockey: UND, Omaha, Denver, St. T, Lindenwood - Other NCHC Miami, WMich, CC (keep DU happy) and ASU teams can join as affiliates - just dump SCSU. Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, FSSD said: Add football and Hockey to Summit League - bring in both St. Thomas and Lindenwood. Football: UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, WIU, St.T, Lindenwood - 7 teams - opens up nonconference scheduling with MVC teams. Hockey: UND, Omaha, Denver, St. T, Lindenwood - Other NCHC Miami, WMich, CC (keep DU happy) and ASU teams can join as affiliates - just dump SCSU. Quote
nodak651 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 If the Summit League doesn't add hockey, St. Thomas is going to be poached by the MVC sooner than later. Would also help to mitigate the risk of Omaha or Denver jumping ship as well. Dropping SCSU for Lindenwood doesn't make any sense to me. Neither does ASU. If hockey adds anyone in addition to St. Thomas, make it Mankato and get Red Barron to sponsor the conference tournament again in St. Paul. Drop Miami if anyone, and don't add ASU unless Miami leaves - protect the conf tourney in St. Paul. 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 i know the mvc has looooots of money....but if Northern Iowa was offered summit hockey in exchange for moving their sports to all sports (football, oly, and hockey) summit? would they do it? Quote
nodak651 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i know the mvc has looooots of money....but if Northern Iowa was offered summit hockey in exchange for moving their sports to all sports (football, oly, and hockey) summit? would they do it? Northern Iowa doesnt have hockey? Quote
Esoteric Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 9 hours ago, FSSD said: Add football and Hockey to Summit League - bring in both St. Thomas and Lindenwood. Football: UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, WIU, St.T, Lindenwood - 7 teams - opens up nonconference scheduling with MVC teams. Hockey: UND, Omaha, Denver, St. T, Lindenwood - Other NCHC Miami, WMich, CC (keep DU happy) and ASU teams can join as affiliates - just dump SCSU. Keep NCHC Quote
Esoteric Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 12/3/2022 at 5:56 PM, zonadub said: Missed the opportunity when the C-USA got hit during the last round. Should have banded together and been a northern (but autonomous) division of C-USA with the Montanas, Idaho, … Maybe UND could stay in a conference for a few years. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 11 hours ago, nodak651 said: Northern Iowa doesnt have hockey? i know...but hockey is very very popular in iowa....they add hockey and join "summit hockey' but move everything else over and you've locked up a nice piece of the LONGER TERM summit stability Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 what the NEW "summit" league needs omaha-add football st thomas-invite for hockey northern iowa-add hockey and accept full invite drop miami and western michigan in favor of st thomas and northern iowa leverage summit football with missouri state....try to flip them without a hockey offer especially if northern iowa joins Quote
nodak651 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i know...but hockey is very very popular in iowa....they add hockey and join "summit hockey' but move everything else over and you've locked up a nice piece of the LONGER TERM summit stability Maybe for football, but I don't think UNI has the money or desire to start a hockey program. They are basketball first and would have to compete with the waterloo Blackhawks who already have a loyal following. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Maybe for football, but I don't think UNI has the money or desire to start a hockey program. They are basketball first and would have to compete with the waterloo Blackhawks who already have a loyal following. would you rather watch the waterloo blackhawks play the mackinock island doves or YOUR Panthers play the FIGHTING SIOUX on back to back nights in january??????? easy choice Quote
nodak651 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: would you rather watch the waterloo blackhawks play the mackinock island doves or YOUR Panthers play the FIGHTING SIOUX on back to back nights in january??????? easy choice What I would want doesn't really matter though. The UNI fan base wouldn't want to risk hurting basketball. Go to panthernation.com and ask them how they would feel about adding hockey.. guessing you wouldn't be well received. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, nodak651 said: What I would want doesn't really matter though. The UNI fan base wouldn't want to risk hurting basketball. Go to panthernation.com and ask them how they would feel about adding hockey.. guessing you wouldn't be well received. the mvc isn't what it used to be...they are expereincing some problems too... panthernation.com doesn't make athletic decisions...the pres and AD does still saying it's a long shot but .................WHERES FENTON!!!!!!!! Quote
nodak651 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: the mvc isn't what it used to be...they are expereincing some problems too... panthernation.com doesn't make athletic decisions...the pres and AD does still saying it's a long shot but .................WHERES FENTON!!!!!!!! Sure, but I'm trying to say that there is a preponderance of evidence to suggest that the Pres and AD at UNI would not be interested in adding hockey. They are currently trying to fundraise for a 50 million dollar UNI Dome renovation - they don't have the money. Fenton is still working on the Summit League's media deal/strategy, and I would think that will play a large role in determining whether or not he wants the Summit League to pursue sponsorship of additional sports. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Sure, but I'm trying to say that there is a preponderance of evidence to suggest that the Pres and AD at UNI would not be interested in adding hockey. They are currently trying to fundraise for a 50 million dollar UNI Dome renovation - they don't have the money. Fenton is still working on the Summit League's media deal/strategy, and I would think that will play a large role in determining whether or not he wants the Summit League to pursue sponsorship of additional sports. ccha hockey no........but nchc/summit hockey YES Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Sure, but I'm trying to say that there is a preponderance of evidence to suggest that the Pres and AD at UNI would not be interested in adding hockey. They are currently trying to fundraise for a 50 million dollar UNI Dome renovation - they don't have the money. Fenton is still working on the Summit League's media deal/strategy, and I would think that will play a large role in determining whether or not he wants the Summit League to pursue sponsorship of additional sports. and you forget...hockey makes money (especially if st thomas joins...with them we might recreate the magic the final five had for years with minny and wisco) Quote
jdub27 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: and you forget...hockey makes money (especially if st thomas joins...with them we might recreate the magic the final five had for years with minny and wisco) UNI isn't going to trade having their basketball program in the MVC to start up hockey and join the NCHC/Summit. That's pretty ridiculous. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, jdub27 said: UNI isn't going to trade having their basketball program in the MVC to start up hockey and join the NCHC/Summit. That's pretty ridiculous. UNI will do that two days after Duke does it. Quote
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