Thumper 76 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 On 5/17/2017 at 9:44 PM, SiouxVolley said: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/may/12/ewu-initiates-process-to-examine-fundraising-prosp/ So why is EWU so concerned about keeping up with the Montanas in the facilities race if everything will stay status quo, as numerous trolls and posters have said? But in the very slight chance that those schools are moving to the Slummit and FBS, then is a very big deal for EWU. EWU has been fundraising for some time for an alternative stadium or bigger Roos, but just hasn't made headway. That's not keeping up. That's trying to get a facility that's actually FCS quality. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 all this "big North" conference stuff...i hope ewu isn't included in it at all..i would take portland and or sac town over them Quote
UND-1 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: all this "big North" conference stuff...i hope ewu isn't included in it at all..i would take portland and or sac town over them Uhh no. Those two schools are marginal at best. Commuter colleges with very little following. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, UND-1 said: Uhh no. Those two schools are marginal at best. Commuter colleges with very little following. portland.. much bigger city way better fb stadium more students way bigger endowment way better logo too ill take portland over ewu any day. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: portland.. much bigger city way better fb stadium more students way bigger endowment way better logo too ill take portland over ewu any day. If this is part of the criteria, we'll never get in. 4 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Carr Sports was in Bozeman in May reviewing Mont State's facilities, and writing a strategic report on what Montana State needs to do, like building an attached IPF to their stadium so its can be co-used as a warming house and hospitality area during games and reworking some grandstands. Coincidentally, Carr Sports has advised many of the recent FCS to FBS moveups on how to strategically prepare. They are often used when schools move up a notch. Troy, Texas St and UTSA used their advise on their FBS moves. Carr Sports' website lists NDSU, SDSU and UND as being recent clients. Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 6 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Carr Sports' website lists NDSU, SDSU and UND as being recent clients. Yes...for the D2 to D1 moves. Or are you implying that they are recent clients for a FCS to FBS move? Quote
southpaw Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 7 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Carr Sports' website lists NDSU, SDSU and UND as being recent clients. I would love to see where it says recent clients on their website. Quote
cberkas Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Looks like they were doing a business study at Montana State. Quote
planetearth Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 20 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Carr Sports was in Bozeman in May reviewing Mont State's facilities, and writing a strategic report on what Montana State needs to do, like building an attached IPF to their stadium so its can be co-used as a warming house and hospitality area during games and reworking some grandstands. Coincidentally, Carr Sports has advised many of the recent FCS to FBS moveups on how to strategically prepare. They are often used when schools move up a notch. Troy, Texas St and UTSA used their advise on their FBS moves. Carr Sports' website lists NDSU, SDSU and UND as being recent clients. For this post, Planet Earth has declared you winner of the fishing derby. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Some fans that will be forever clueless. Look up Carr Sports. No school says they will be moving up before they contact Carr but everyone announces major new reclassification plans soon after they have consulted with them. Thats exactly what happened with Carr Sports and UND the last time. There were fans here that lambasted UND's leadership at the time when I said UND would go DI years before they went. After Carr visited, it was a matter of months before the announcement. Even UAB dropped fb as a result of meeting with Carr, and then had a quick meeting to clean up the mess UAB's President left. It's all very confidential business meetings and report writing. But somehow things always happen after Carr meets with athletics departments. Quote
UND-1 Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 5 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: Some fans that will be forever clueless. Look up Carr Sports. No school says they will be moving up before they contact Carr but everyone announces major new reclassification plans soon after they have consulted with them. Thats exactly what happened with Carr Sports and UND the last time. There were fans here that lambasted UND's leadership at the time when I said UND would go DI years before they went. After Carr visited, it was a matter of months before the announcement. Even UAB dropped fb as a result of meeting with Carr, and then had a quick meeting to clean up the mess UAB's President left. It's all very confidential business meetings and report writing. But somehow things always happen after Carr meets with athletics departments. You're special. Quote
southpaw Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 6 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: ...everyone announces major new reclassification plans soon after they have consulted with them. Clemsen had Carr come in in 2009. Why didn't they make some big move? Perhaps because Carr does significantly more than just analyze move up possibilities? Your fantasies continue to be proven false. I'm glad I don't have the "vision" you have. I couldn't handle being that wrong all the time. Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 23 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Yes...for the D2 to D1 moves. Or are you implying that they are recent clients for a FCS to FBS move? @SiouxVolley, can you answer this question for me regarding your comment on Carr Sports? Just want to be sure I'm understanding correctly. Recent clients for a FBS move for all 3 schools you mentioned? Quote
GeauxSioux Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Someone posted this map over at http://csnbbs.com/thread-818307.html Really gives some perspective on the great divide between east and west. I still say, if Douple is wise, he will be thinking about getting UNC and starting Summit football. It would protect the autobids and solidify the conference. I also believe that UNI would jump ship at some point and join the Summit. It would not happen for a while, due to the money and perceived strength in the MVC, but they will come. UNC gets beat up on a lot of the forums for under performing since transitioning to Division I. Maybe what they need is to get back with their old NCC buddies. While Greeley is often put down, it is a growing metro with potential. I am in construction and do projects with Hensel Phelps, one of the larger general contractors in the country, and they are based in Greeley. 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Wow no kidding... Greeley Historical population Census Pop. %± 1870 480 — 1880 1,297 170.2% 1890 2,395 84.7% 1900 3,023 26.2% 1910 8,179 170.6% 1920 10,958 34.0% 1930 12,203 11.4% 1940 15,995 31.1% 1950 20,354 27.3% 1960 26,314 29.3% 1970 38,902 47.8% 1980 53,006 36.3% 1990 60,536 14.2% 2000 76,930 27.1% 2010 92,889 20.7% Est. 2015 100,883 [18] 8.6% Quote
nodak651 Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Based on that map, I'd start a new conference with: UND, NDSU USD, SDSU Montana, Montana State Idaho, EWU UNO, DU Idaho State, Weber or Portland State, Seattle or both Quote
zonadub Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 4 hours ago, nodak651 said: Based on that map, I'd start a new conference with: UND, NDSU USD, SDSU Montana, Montana State Idaho, EWU UNO, DU Idaho State, Weber or Portland State, Seattle or both If we are dreaming... UND NDSU USD SDSU Montana Montana State Idaho Idaho State Wyoming Denver 9 football / 10 basketball 1 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 27, 2017 Posted May 27, 2017 http://www.tribtoday.com/sports/sport-columns/2017/05/change-on-horizon-after-valpo-exit/ The Horizon will stay at 9 members for next season but Commissioner LeCrone states that they will go to at least 12 later. The Horizon has studied going to 16. Downtown Fort Wayne is getting a modern 5600 seat arena for basketball and concerts, which was just approved this winter, so they seem inevitably gone from tSL. War Memorial Coliseum was a much larger venue downtown where IPFW played sometimes. When the Horizon expands to 12 or more tSL won't have eastern time zone teams anymore, for the first time ever. Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 On 5/21/2017 at 1:25 AM, SiouxVolley said: Carr Sports' website lists NDSU, SDSU and UND as being recent clients. On 5/21/2017 at 8:22 AM, UNDvince97-01 said: Yes...for the D2 to D1 moves. Or are you implying that they are recent clients for a FCS to FBS move? On 5/22/2017 at 7:53 AM, UNDvince97-01 said: @SiouxVolley, can you answer this question for me regarding your comment on Carr Sports? Just want to be sure I'm understanding correctly. Recent clients for a FBS move for all 3 schools you mentioned? Bump... Quote
Vegas_Sioux Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 We aren't the only ones with financial issues after moving to d1. http://www.omaha.com/news/education/uno-looks-at-cuts-fee-increases-wage-freezes-to-balance/article_13e7f7a4-196c-5d28-abd3-9e958b2b7d02.html Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 6 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said: Bump... Does it matter? Carr Sports would have given nearly the same strategy ten years ago as it would today to go FBS. The only difference is the conference, as the WAC was the only possible route ten years ago. Now with FBS waivers like for Liberty, any conference with eight aspirational FCS schools and with FBS capable facilities can go. All of the "Great Northern" schools mentioned need some group of like schools to take the plunge with them, as they need similar scheduling partners to make it financially. Few schools can ever be financially independent at FBS long term, and Liberty has already successfully filled their FBS schedule for a couple years at a huge expense. The MWC for Montana or NDSU would bankrupt them as SDiegoSU or Colo St or UNM have more than double the resources. The MWC isn't interested in them anyway, just like the MVC isn't interested in Dakota schools. Gene Roebuck said when he retired that by 2020 UND would be in the WAC. Replace WAC with FBS, as that is the aim of that comment. Leaders have to be looking at least ten years down the road, or they are not leaders. It would have been a dereliction of duty for an AD to not have tentative plans if an opportunity with bona fide regional and similar schools presented itself. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 Why hasn't the Big Sky released schedules for 2018 and 2019 as when Idaho will be joining? More changes still to come? Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Vegas_Sioux said: We aren't the only ones with financial issues after moving to d1. http://www.omaha.com/news/education/uno-looks-at-cuts-fee-increases-wage-freezes-to-balance/article_13e7f7a4-196c-5d28-abd3-9e958b2b7d02.html They CLEARLY need to fire more administrators and the president needs to cut his salary. Quote
UND-1 Posted May 29, 2017 Posted May 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: They CLEARLY need to fire more administrators and the president needs to cut his salary. They even dropped big, bad Football before the move to D1 and still are worse off than most athletic departments. Quote
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