Conference Realignments - Take 2

[SWSiouxMN]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17281618/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-interview-17-schools-expansion

17 schools for two spots?

[SiouxVolley]

12 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17281618/big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby-interview-17-schools-expansion

17 schools for two spots?

Seems like Houston and Cincy will get in.  BYU won't because of their honor code that impacts GLBT students.

[Sioux>Bison]

11 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

Seems like Houston and Cincy will get in.  BYU won't because of their honor code that impacts GLBT students.

But but but what about NDSU.? They are the best football team out there and now they don't get a chance to move up. What about the big 12 wrestling affiliation???

enough of this #bringonbamma bs it needs to change to #bringonbig12

[SIOUXFAN97]

i read that arkansas state made a bid to join the big12? really??? i thought NIU was funny enough but ASU

[The Sicatoka]

17 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

Seems like Houston and Cincy will get in.  BYU won't because of their honor code that impacts GLBT students.

BYU also does not want its teams playing on Sundays (think basketball). 

[SiouxVolley]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i read that arkansas state made a bid to join the big12? really??? i thought NIU was funny enough but ASU

Ark St has a med school and an FBS team, but that's about it.  Mo St or LA Tech would be better academic choices and are the second public in their respective state, but they too don't have enough media eyeballs.  Memphis beats all of their regional rivals them except it's academics aren't too good either.  

N Ill tries to sell itself based on proximity to Chicago, but it been drawing less than 15k recently because of Thursday night MAC games.  It's academics on par with St Cloud St, so it is as if SCSU was making a bid, if it had an FBS team.  Many of those schools are getting ready for an AAC bid, and a Big 12 bid is only a dry run.

[SiouxVolley]

A rumor that Nebraska wants back in the Big 12.  Could shake thing up.

 

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/nebraska-rejoins-big-12/326385

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said:

A rumor that Nebraska wants back in the Big 12.  Could shake thing up.

 

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/nebraska-rejoins-big-12/326385

wow. most people say that when you join the big10, sec, or pac12 you join for life...i would htink the other school would be colorado?  utah maybe but they have had some success lately but cu..no.

[SiouxVolley]

12 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

wow. most people say that when you join the big10, sec, or pac12 you join for life...i would htink the other school would be colorado?  utah maybe but they have had some success lately but cu..no.

Probably Nebraska just trying to get concessions.  Rumors are Mizzou isn't too happy either, as they don't get to play in A&M's and Arkansas's division, but that would force Auburn east, and Alabama and Auburn don't want that unless they both go.

Iowa St and Kansas St would love Nebraska back, bUT the B1G is just too much money and prestige.

[cberkas]

So Missouri is going to go back to a unstable BIGXII the same reason why they left to the SEC? Missouri isn't leaving the SEC for the BIGXII but they possibly would for the B1G.

It's sounding like someone made up a rumor and people took it as fact. 

[darell1976]

Nebraska said they aren't moving and I think they would be stupid if they did.

[SiouxVolley]

Texas A&M Corpus Christi and Texas A&M Kingsville, which are like 50 miles apart, are in merger talks.  Kingsville is DII but has a large football stadium > 15k, while Corpus is DI with no football.  If the schools merged, as it would have more than 20k students, it would be a natural if it moved to FBS.

[SiouxVolley]

North Alabama officially announced a move to DI today as they have accepted an invite to the Atlantic Sun for all sports but football, which will compete in the Big South.

Back in 2011, UNA had wanted to OVC invite, but apparently we're rejected.  The OVC doesnt need more schools as it is relatively bloated.  UNA only has 7500 students and $30 mill in endowments, so it will be one of the smaller public DI's.

David Lipscomb U in Nashville will probably be it's travel partner, as the ASUN has lost N Kentucky, E Tennessee St, and Belmont over the previous decade, all of which were once Lipscomb's travel partner.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/12/una_to_make_move_to_division_i.html

[SiouxVolley]

Fanrag has reported that Wichita St is the only non football team that could be added to the AAC for the 2018-19 season.

That could set up a battle between NDSU and SDSU for the 10th MVC spot and "ruin" our Slummit ambitions.  Maybe Mo St would move to the AAC at the same time.

[nodak651]

7 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

Fanrag has reported that Wichita St is the only non football team that could be added to the AAC for the 2018-19 season.

That could set up a battle between NDSU and SDSU for the 10th MVC spot and "ruin" our Slummit ambitions.  Maybe Mo St would move to the AAC at the same time.

Denver or Omaha might have a better shot.

[Goon]

On 12/6/2016 at 6:43 PM, SiouxVolley said:

North Alabama officially announced a move to DI today as they have accepted an invite to the Atlantic Sun for all sports but football, which will compete in the Big South.

Back in 2011, UNA had wanted to OVC invite, but apparently we're rejected.  The OVC doesnt need more schools as it is relatively bloated.  UNA only has 7500 students and $30 mill in endowments, so it will be one of the smaller public DI's.

David Lipscomb U in Nashville will probably be it's travel partner, as the ASUN has lost N Kentucky, E Tennessee St, and Belmont over the previous decade, all of which were once Lipscomb's travel partner.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/12/una_to_make_move_to_division_i.html

 

Nice to see that they're still good at football.

 

[SiouxVolley]

36 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Denver or Omaha might have a better shot.

Good point.  The MVC is so political, they tend to replace schools with like ones.  So Wichita replacement would more likely be Omaha or.Milwaukee, publics without fb. MO St is a bigger issue, as only the XDSU's and Murray St fit the bill.

If Ilinois St really wanted hockey as well as other MVC schools, they could push for Omaha, Denver, and UND.

[FSSD]

Wasn't UMKC a finalist last time with Denver..  I think Denver said - pass because MVC wanted them to add sports.  The Slummit took Denver even tho they only match up for 5/9 mens and 6/11 womens sports or 11 out of 20 total sports.  Not the strongest match...

[SiouxVolley]

There has been recent rumblings that BYU is tired of FB indendence.  Might BYU go to the AAC as fb only and Wichita St go in for Olympics?

Wichita St would want to start fb as FCS but wouldn't be welcome in the MVFC.  The WAC FCS conference would be the way Wichita goes FBS.  The AAC doesnt want FCS move ups.

MO St would leave the MVFC and maybe the MVC for the Sun Belt or WAC as soon as Wichita St leaves.

The AAC might also want AFA or Colo St.  If that happens, the MWC will.take UTEP,  Rice, and UTSA or North Texas from CUSA.

[SiouxVolley]

2 hours ago, FSSD said:

Wasn't UMKC a finalist last time with Denver..  I think Denver said - pass because MVC wanted them to add sports.  The Slummit took Denver even tho they only match up for 5/9 mens and 6/11 womens sports or 11 out of 20 total sports.  Not the strongest match...

UMKC could be in the running too as well as Omaha and MilwaukeE for Wichita's spot.   Any Slummit move would be ill advised now by Kennedy.

[planet2county]

http://piralnews.com/news/Report:-Wichita-State-mentioned-as-possible-addition-to-American-Athletic-Conference

[SiouxVolley]

12 minutes ago, planet2county said:

http://piralnews.com/news/Report:-Wichita-State-mentioned-as-possible-addition-to-American-Athletic-Conference

The AAC doesn't want new FBS teams, so a WAC league that is FCS moving to FBS might still be on.  When Wichita St is good in fb, the AAC may take them on then.

[SiouxVolley]

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2016/12/15/13972218/

 

NDSU, SDSU, and USD are mentioned here as MVC replacements for Wichita St.  Don't think any of them would get offered, as Omaha, UMKC, and Milwaukee have much better media credentials.  The Slummit is always losing members because it's the lowest conference on the food chain in the midwest.  The Big Sky doesn't have so much movement out west, so it is much more stable.  The NEC, the America East and the Atlantic Sun are the other beginning level conferences that have a high degree of instability.  The WAC is now a lowly conference too, but if the WAC reorganization gains steam with the Montanas and Idaho and NMSU and Denver based on that it can grant FBS status,  that would be a higher level conference than anything listed here.

All sports except hockey would benefit by being in a league above the entry level conferences like the Big Sky and the Slummit.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

On 6/5/2016 at 1:30 AM, darell1976 said:

Like this idiot:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2181753-why-the-big-12-should-extend-invite-to-top-fcs-team-north-dakota-state#

He sure is an idiot, NDSU is not the top FCS team anymore.

[darell1976]

3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2016/12/15/13972218/

 

NDSU, SDSU, and USD are mentioned here as MVC replacements for Wichita St.  Don't think any of them would get offered, as Omaha, UMKC, and Milwaukee have much better media credentials.  The Slummit is always losing members because it's the lowest conference on the food chain in the midwest.  The Big Sky doesn't have so much movement out west, so it is much more stable.  The NEC, the America East and the Atlantic Sun are the other beginning level conferences that have a high degree of instability.  The WAC is now a lowly conference too, but if the WAC reorganization gains steam with the Montanas and Idaho and NMSU and Denver based on that it can grant FBS status,  that would be a higher level conference than anything listed here.

All sports except hockey would benefit by being in a league above the entry level conferences like the Big Sky and the Slummit.

Why USD? I would think the top 3 replacements out of the Dakotas would be SDSU, NDSU, USD. Of course Omaha trumps all 3.  USD hasn't really done much on the court for them to be a good replacement for WSU.