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  1. 1. What name should replace "Fighting Sioux" after it's retired?

    • Aviators or Pilots
      12
    • Cavalry
      18
    • Nodaks
      11
    • Nokotas
      21
    • Norse, Nordics, Fighting Norsemen
      46
    • Outlaws
      13
    • Plainsmen
      4
    • Rangers
      6
    • Rough Riders
      79
    • Other
      109


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Nope can't have it... logic on this board dictates so. That was the name of Rugby's Junior Gold Hockey teams. We'd just be copying and alienating every other junior gold fan in the state.

Rochester MN has a Junior A team with the same name too...

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Fighting Nodaks!

Nice thing about oilers is it would help promote our new patrolium engineering dept and it is something a growing western north Dakota could latch on to. We could become the team to watch for everyone out there

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Don't fear The Reaper ... because in the end, The Reaper takes it all. Just accept it. ;)

The song is about the inevitability of death and the foolishness of fearing it, and was written when (songwriter Buck) Dharma was thinking about what would happen if he died at a young age. Lyrics such as "Romeo and Juliet are together in eternity" have led many listeners to interpret the song to be about a murder-suicide pact, but Dharma says the song is about eternal love, not suicide. He used Romeo and Juliet as motifs to describe a couple believing they would meet again in the afterlife.
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i'm curious as to why the Rough Rider fans don't like Oilers because it's drilled in the western part of the state. well, there aren't any Rough Riders riding horses in the eastern part of the state either. If i'm assuming a Rough Rider is a cowboy-type on a horse herding cattle..... either way i can't stand Rough Riders.

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Don't fear The Reaper ... because in the end, The Reaper takes it all. Just accept it. ;)

Reapers is aight. I just worry about the possible cheesy logo.

Plus with Oilers, I'm doing everything I can to plug my industry. I seriously wonder though if it would help us get a larger market share due to ppl in western ND identifying with it.

Posted

Anyone with any sense is selling their houses & property for 3 or 4 times it's previous worth & leaving or else their rich now or staying & buying new everything for the farm & going south for the winter or buying a home somewhere else in ND or near their kids

Posted

Nodaks was a common reference to the hockey team in the 50s

Too close to "No-dicks" for our a-hole opponents plus they told kids they could survive a nuclear attack by hiding under their desks in the 50's :silly:

NOW before you start GROUSING - how about a unique name thats an homage to an aspect of ND hunting culture....the Fighting Sharptails!

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Looks like Lakes slipped one past the opinion page editor in the Forum, even though there is proper punctuation and capitalization. Never mind it not being factual.

http://www.inforum.c...group/homepage/

What do you expect from a guy who cheers for a team that does the tomahawk chop and has a white guy dress like an Indian, ride a horse with a flaming spear. Yep that's not racist. Maybe Lakes can ask FSU if he can get that job.

Posted

wow, what a complete tool!

Strange how arrest records make the paper too.

Yup. Third rate salespeople for third rate stations in third rate markets linger on in backwater cesspools in this nation.

Posted

What do you expect from a guy who cheers for a team that does the tomahawk chop and has a white guy dress like an Indian, ride a horse with a flaming spear. Yep that's not racist. Maybe Lakes can ask FSU if he can get that job.

I mean.... The tribe down there approves of it.

That said... I hate Florida State.

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In this radio segment from Scott Hennen's show, he has on Rob Port and Ruth Hopkins to debate the siouxperdrunk t-shirt issue. A couple of times Ruth mentions that the Sioux represent the Dakota, Nokota/Nakota (sp?) and Lakota Indians. There is a 0% chance that UND will be the Nokotas, even if you're referring to some kind of horse.

The tribe is Nakota.

The horse is Nokota. Has nothing to do with Native Americans at all. The name is on par with Mustangs, Colts, Ponies, etc. The name comes from a combination of North Dakota. With a horse as an emblem, there would be no mistaking it for anything else.

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I mean.... The tribe down there approves of it.

That said... I hate Florida State.

That is the rub. There are two Seminole tribal elements. And the other one, located in Oklahoma does not approve of the use of the name.

Posted

The tribe is Nakota.

The horse is Nokota. Has nothing to do with Native Americans at all. The name is on par with Mustangs, Colts, Ponies, etc. The name comes from a combination of North Dakota. With a horse as an emblem, there would be no mistaking it for anything else.

As I said before - it could be Nakota, Nokota, Nahkoahtah...whatever. It won't happen.

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That is the rub. There are two Seminole tribal elements. And the other one, located in Oklahoma does not approve of the use of the name.

Has that stance changed since 2005? I know the NCAA claimed then that the OK Seminole Tribe did not approve of the nickname and later wound up with egg on their face as it was one or two members of the eighteen who opposed FSU's nickname. An attempt to pass a resolution condemning it failed big-time.

http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail-pf.php?n=128658

This comes in the wake of news that the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma does not condemn Florida State for its use of the Seminole nickname, a notion one NCAA official had previously cited as a reason FSU was included on the list of banned schools.

``Our official position is that the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma does not condemn the use of Native American mascots and specifically did not condemn the use of Seminoles by Florida State University,'' said Jennifer McBee, the Tribe's attorney general.

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http://newsok.com/florida-states-chief-osceola-disgusts-member-of-seminole-tribe-of-oklahoma/article/3604488

As cool-looking mascots go, Osceola is hard to beat. The Seminole tribal dress. The war paint. The spear. Renegade, the spotted Appaloosa.

But not all Seminoles will feel pride. David Narcomey will be disgusted. He has referred to Osceola as a “minstrel show.”

“Absolutely haven't changed my stance one bit,” said Narcomey, who in 2005 condemned the NCAA's approval of Florida State's use of the Seminole name and Osceola mascot.

Narcomey is an American Indian activist who considers Native symbols and imagery demeaning on sports teams. He wants them removed.

The Oklahoma Seminoles, based in Wewoka, have not taken a side on Osceola. Efforts to reach Chief Leonard Harjo failed. But tribal communications director Dustin Gray said, “Our stance is, we don't really have a stance. We stay out of it.”

Narcomey said the Seminoles can't stay out of it, since the Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma as a group condemned Indian mascots.

Narcomey lived in Florida from 1991 through 2004 and says the Florida Seminoles support the FSU mascot for reasons of money, apathy and lack of awareness.

Narcomey figures the Seminoles want to pacify Florida State alums in the state legislature — “Just don't pass any laws that go against our casinos.” But he also said it's a lack of education. And “maybe if they do know, they don't care.”

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However, the Seminole Tribe of Florida is only one of the tribal authorities representing Seminoles. Activists Michael Haney and David Narcomey, general council member of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, objected to FSU's use of the Seminole symbol and name, and acting independently of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, filed a complaint with the NCAA.[107] David Narcomey, speaking on his own behalf, stated "I am deeply appalled, incredulously disappointed ... I am nauseated that the NCAA is allowing this 'minstrel show' to carry on this form of racism in the 21st century." The NCAA, in response, placed FSU on a list of colleges using imagery “hostile or abusive” towards Native Americans.

In response, Jennifer McBee, the Oklahoma Seminole tribe's attorney general, stated that while David Narcomey was a member of the Oklahoma Seminoles' General Council, he did not speak for the 14,000-member Seminole Nation of Oklahoma when he protested to NCAA officials about FSU's use of the Seminole name and image. McBee added that the NCAA never even asked the General Council for its opinion.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39760.110;imode

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