MafiaMan Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Nope can't have it... logic on this board dictates so. That was the name of Rugby's Junior Gold Hockey teams. We'd just be copying and alienating every other junior gold fan in the state. Rochester MN has a Junior A team with the same name too... Quote
Ray77 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Reaper. Reaper. Reaper. Reaper. I can just hear any opposing team playing a little Blue Oyster Cult - MORE COWBELL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO_5EALZoM Quote
nodak651 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Fighting Nodaks! Nice thing about oilers is it would help promote our new patrolium engineering dept and it is something a growing western north Dakota could latch on to. We could become the team to watch for everyone out there Quote
The Sicatoka Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Don't fear The Reaper ... because in the end, The Reaper takes it all. Just accept it. The song is about the inevitability of death and the foolishness of fearing it, and was written when (songwriter Buck) Dharma was thinking about what would happen if he died at a young age. Lyrics such as "Romeo and Juliet are together in eternity" have led many listeners to interpret the song to be about a murder-suicide pact, but Dharma says the song is about eternal love, not suicide. He used Romeo and Juliet as motifs to describe a couple believing they would meet again in the afterlife. Quote
hrkac Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 i'm curious as to why the Rough Rider fans don't like Oilers because it's drilled in the western part of the state. well, there aren't any Rough Riders riding horses in the eastern part of the state either. If i'm assuming a Rough Rider is a cowboy-type on a horse herding cattle..... either way i can't stand Rough Riders. Quote
ericpnelson Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Don't fear The Reaper ... because in the end, The Reaper takes it all. Just accept it. Reapers is aight. I just worry about the possible cheesy logo. Plus with Oilers, I'm doing everything I can to plug my industry. I seriously wonder though if it would help us get a larger market share due to ppl in western ND identifying with it. Quote
Fetch Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone with any sense is selling their houses & property for 3 or 4 times it's previous worth & leaving or else their rich now or staying & buying new everything for the farm & going south for the winter or buying a home somewhere else in ND or near their kids Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Nodaks was a common reference to the hockey team in the 50s Quote
gfNDfan Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Nodaks was a common reference to the hockey team in the 50s Too close to "No-dicks" for our a-hole opponents plus they told kids they could survive a nuclear attack by hiding under their desks in the 50's NOW before you start GROUSING - how about a unique name thats an homage to an aspect of ND hunting culture....the Fighting Sharptails! Quote
choyt3 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Looks like Lakes slipped one past the opinion page editor in the Forum, even though there is proper punctuation and capitalization. Never mind it not being factual. http://www.inforum.c...group/homepage/ Moderator edit - please don't "out" other posters using their real name unless they choose to. Thanks. Quote
Blackheart Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Looks like Lakes slipped one past the opinion page editor in the Forum, even though there is proper punctuation and capitalization. Never mind it not being factual. http://www.inforum.c...group/homepage/ wow, what a complete tool! Quote
darell1976 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Looks like Lakes slipped one past the opinion page editor in the Forum, even though there is proper punctuation and capitalization. Never mind it not being factual. http://www.inforum.c...group/homepage/ What do you expect from a guy who cheers for a team that does the tomahawk chop and has a white guy dress like an Indian, ride a horse with a flaming spear. Yep that's not racist. Maybe Lakes can ask FSU if he can get that job. Quote
Hayduke Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 wow, what a complete tool! Strange how arrest records make the paper too. Yup. Third rate salespeople for third rate stations in third rate markets linger on in backwater cesspools in this nation. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 What do you expect from a guy who cheers for a team that does the tomahawk chop and has a white guy dress like an Indian, ride a horse with a flaming spear. Yep that's not racist. Maybe Lakes can ask FSU if he can get that job. I mean.... The tribe down there approves of it. That said... I hate Florida State. Quote
Siouxman Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 In this radio segment from Scott Hennen's show, he has on Rob Port and Ruth Hopkins to debate the siouxperdrunk t-shirt issue. A couple of times Ruth mentions that the Sioux represent the Dakota, Nokota/Nakota (sp?) and Lakota Indians. There is a 0% chance that UND will be the Nokotas, even if you're referring to some kind of horse. The tribe is Nakota. The horse is Nokota. Has nothing to do with Native Americans at all. The name is on par with Mustangs, Colts, Ponies, etc. The name comes from a combination of North Dakota. With a horse as an emblem, there would be no mistaking it for anything else. Quote
Siouxman Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I mean.... The tribe down there approves of it. That said... I hate Florida State. That is the rub. There are two Seminole tribal elements. And the other one, located in Oklahoma does not approve of the use of the name. Quote
Ray77 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 The tribe is Nakota. The horse is Nokota. Has nothing to do with Native Americans at all. The name is on par with Mustangs, Colts, Ponies, etc. The name comes from a combination of North Dakota. With a horse as an emblem, there would be no mistaking it for anything else. As I said before - it could be Nakota, Nokota, Nahkoahtah...whatever. It won't happen. Quote
MafiaMan Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 That is the rub. There are two Seminole tribal elements. And the other one, located in Oklahoma does not approve of the use of the name. Has that stance changed since 2005? I know the NCAA claimed then that the OK Seminole Tribe did not approve of the nickname and later wound up with egg on their face as it was one or two members of the eighteen who opposed FSU's nickname. An attempt to pass a resolution condemning it failed big-time. http://www.accessnorthga.com/detail-pf.php?n=128658 This comes in the wake of news that the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma does not condemn Florida State for its use of the Seminole nickname, a notion one NCAA official had previously cited as a reason FSU was included on the list of banned schools. ``Our official position is that the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma does not condemn the use of Native American mascots and specifically did not condemn the use of Seminoles by Florida State University,'' said Jennifer McBee, the Tribe's attorney general. Quote
darell1976 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 http://newsok.com/florida-states-chief-osceola-disgusts-member-of-seminole-tribe-of-oklahoma/article/3604488 As cool-looking mascots go, Osceola is hard to beat. The Seminole tribal dress. The war paint. The spear. Renegade, the spotted Appaloosa. But not all Seminoles will feel pride. David Narcomey will be disgusted. He has referred to Osceola as a “minstrel show.” “Absolutely haven't changed my stance one bit,” said Narcomey, who in 2005 condemned the NCAA's approval of Florida State's use of the Seminole name and Osceola mascot. Narcomey is an American Indian activist who considers Native symbols and imagery demeaning on sports teams. He wants them removed. The Oklahoma Seminoles, based in Wewoka, have not taken a side on Osceola. Efforts to reach Chief Leonard Harjo failed. But tribal communications director Dustin Gray said, “Our stance is, we don't really have a stance. We stay out of it.” Narcomey said the Seminoles can't stay out of it, since the Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma as a group condemned Indian mascots. Narcomey lived in Florida from 1991 through 2004 and says the Florida Seminoles support the FSU mascot for reasons of money, apathy and lack of awareness. Narcomey figures the Seminoles want to pacify Florida State alums in the state legislature — “Just don't pass any laws that go against our casinos.” But he also said it's a lack of education. And “maybe if they do know, they don't care.” Quote
MafiaMan Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 However, the Seminole Tribe of Florida is only one of the tribal authorities representing Seminoles. Activists Michael Haney and David Narcomey, general council member of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, objected to FSU's use of the Seminole symbol and name, and acting independently of the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, filed a complaint with the NCAA.[107] David Narcomey, speaking on his own behalf, stated "I am deeply appalled, incredulously disappointed ... I am nauseated that the NCAA is allowing this 'minstrel show' to carry on this form of racism in the 21st century." The NCAA, in response, placed FSU on a list of colleges using imagery “hostile or abusive” towards Native Americans. In response, Jennifer McBee, the Oklahoma Seminole tribe's attorney general, stated that while David Narcomey was a member of the Oklahoma Seminoles' General Council, he did not speak for the 14,000-member Seminole Nation of Oklahoma when he protested to NCAA officials about FSU's use of the Seminole name and image. McBee added that the NCAA never even asked the General Council for its opinion. http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39760.110;imode Quote
MafiaMan Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 http://juneauempire.com/stories/090605/spo_20050906001.shtml Some do-gooders need to head to Alaska and "educate" some folks up there about how their nickname is demeaning to them... Quote
darell1976 Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.macon.com...t-team-the.html North Dakota has been without a nickname since 2012 when the school dropped its longstanding “Fighting Sioux” nickname. The school is scheduled to unveil a new nickname at the start of the 2015-16 academic year. Did they really schedule this or is the paper assuming? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.macon.com...t-team-the.html Did they really schedule this or is the paper assuming? You can bet if you ask President Kelley, you'll get his favorite response to everything: "No comment". Quote
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