Teeder11 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 You will need to talk to McDonald if you would like one person on the commitee to single handedly eliminate a choice; he's the only member who wields that much power. I think your assumption that people who want North Dakota are hockey only fans, is extremely inaccurate. Actually, having sat through a lot of these committee meetings, I would say that McDonald is one of the least vocal and influential in the room (actually, he's seldom in the room.... he attends via teleconference). It would be a close race between him and the staff representative on the panel. Lowell Schweigert always seems to be the most vocal and engaged... him and Bridewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 From the article dmksioux linked in the previous post: Blaze Cavalry Explorers Fighting Green Fighting Hawks Force Green Hawks Nodaks North Dakota North Stars Pride Roughriders Spirit Sundogs Thunderhawks I CANNOT believe Warhawks didn't make the cut but Pride...Spirit....and Sundogs did. And Force....really?! I like the Force nickname but do we really need to copy the name of the Fargo Force?! Just a waste of a pick if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I CANNOT believe Warhawks didn't make the cut but Pride...Spirit....and Sundogs did. And Force....really?! I like the Force nickname but do we really need to copy the name of the Fargo Force?! Just a waste of a pick if you ask me. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamStrait Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I can live with: Cavalry Fighting Hawks ThunderHawks NoDaks Force Explorers North Stars I definitely DO NOT WANT North Dakota Blaze Fighting Green Pride Spirit SunDogs Roughriders Beats me why they keep leaving North Dakota on the list. We know the NCAA won't allow it and at any rate, it's not good business to go down that road again. Since you are on record as saying that "Fighting Sioux" is racist, any opinion of yours must be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George M. Bluth Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'm all for Cavalry or Roughriders. I wish Legends had made the list, that one was starting to grow on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Time for someone on the committee to step up and take North Dakota off the list. Shouldn't be an option. This committee needs to think about the long term effects that has on UND. Don't care what the hockey only fans or the hockey only writers think, would be a big mistake for the school. Roughriders or Cavalry will do just fine. Time to move on. I agree. Just having North Dakota shouldn't be an option, why not have Fighting Nodaks instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I want Pride off the list, that was the finalist name with Knights we at GF Central had to vote for. A pride is a pack of lions, I would rather be called the Lions than Pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Let's walk the list: Blaze - someone missed the smoking of elicit substances issue with this one, or Glen Beck's network (that liberals hate) Cavalry - there actually was cavalry in ND Explorers - oh, goody, "the X Men", but that's sexist Fighting Green - the fighting green what ... two adjectives do not make a nickname Fighting Hawks - when do they play the mighty ducks? Force - mass times acceleration; Glen Lykken and Bill Schwalm submit this one?* Green Hawks - so, follow Miami (Red Hawks) and Dickinson State (Blue Hawks); how imaginative and novel Nodaks - that's an abbreviation, not a nickname (will the Gophers follow and rename as the Minns?) North Dakota - as I've said, no nickname is not a nickname North Stars - not in favor of a neighboring state's nickname (unless Rushmores gets added to the list) Pride - it's not just one of the seven deadly sins anymore Roughriders - some don't like it, I get it, but it follows the TR image of (especially western) ND Spirit - did Hal Gershman submit this ... wine and Spirits ... I thought they wanted fewer alcohol inferences on campus Sundogs - just no; the group that started this mess submitted this mess; flat out divisive at this point Thunderhawks - Southern Utah anyone ... anyone ... and their thunderbirds, no thanks; and if Nokota is too native so is thunder(any bird) ** *We'll pick out the folks that hung around Witmer Hall fast now, won't we. **And thunderbird is ... alcohol ... < gasp! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I want Pride off the list, that was the finalist name with Knights we at GF Central had to vote for. A pride is a pack of lions, I would rather be called the Lions than Pride. Some folks on a rival site seem to think "Pride" would be a great choice...we can celebrate North Dakota's tolerance and diversity and free ourselves from the chains of racism forever! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I want Pride off the list, that was the finalist name with Knights we at GF Central had to vote for. A pride is a pack of lions, I would rather be called the Lions than Pride. Welcome to the Hofstra experience. They dropped "Dutchmen". They went to "Pride", just a wordmark so everyone could have their own "interpretation" of it (are you listening Karl Goehring?). Everyone hated it ... until they added a (wait for it) lion/lioness logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I remember that fiasco, Sicatoka. Almost as bad as Marquette's near re-brand from "Golden Eagles" to "Gold." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Glad the committee has a sense of humor. Can we see the real list now? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Glad the committee has a sense of humor. Can we see the real list now? That's the first thing that's made me smile or chuckle in any of this in a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've bee a vocal critic of Roughriders, but it seems pretty obvious, even to me, that it's the best option remaining. And I generally agree that a new nickname is better than no nickname, but honestly, when compared to this list, no nickname is not a bad option. For me: 1) Roughriders - I don't like that we're copying the local high school team, but it's an official nickname of the state and is pretty unique 2) Cavalry - I like it in theory, but the confusion with Calvary can't be ignored. About half the people on this board spell it wrong, and probably say it wrong too. On the other hand, a lot of people spelled Sioux wrong too (but at leas it was easy to pronounce). 3) North Dakota The remaining options are all unacceptable in my opinion. What truly frightens me is that with all the really bad nicknames in the Final 15, at least one of them is sure to make the Final 3. And when that happens, look for outside interests to wreak havoc with the public voting process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The one that was a real wildcard to me, in terms of being the least expected to make this cut, was explorers. I expected plenty that I consider bad (sundogs, pride, spirit) to make the cut, but that's the survivor that was least on my radar. After giving it some thought, it made my personal "acceptable" list because it's unique, is a person (not a feeling or weather phenomenon), is nicely affiliated with the state, and has the potential for a cool logo. However, it's horrible in chants and announcements and has no obvious short version that can be worked into chants. (Interestingly, not being able to be shortened is actually considered a positive according to the committee's criteria). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Can't be Nodaks only for the reason that everyone else can call UND the No D**ks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I remember that fiasco, Sicatoka. Almost as bad as Marquette's near re-brand from "Golden Eagles" to "Gold." Marquette was an epic cluster. I fear their #1 ranking on that list may, however, be in jeopardy. Back to Hofstra: Their school seal has two lions on it. It was a clear miss from the start ... or the fix was in to put Pride in place and add the lions later. Either way, Hofstra came out pretty well. I wish UND would have had "Torch" on their final list: it's in the school seal, "the light of knowledge", it fits with the flame logo, it fits with the school motto "lux et lex" (light and law). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Who the hell keeps voting for sundogs? I swear to God, if Sundogs is chosen I quit. Whats the logo going to be, a version of a rainbow? UGH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I swear to God, if Sundogs is chosen I quit. Whats the logo going to be, a version of a rainbow? UGH Mafia put in a picture of a possible jersey above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well the list doesn't look as bad when pared down to 15. Pretty easy to get to 6 I think.Blaze-noCavalry-noExplorers-3Fighting Green-noFighting Hawks-noForce-noGreen Hawks-4Nodaks-noNorth Dakota-1North Stars-2Pride-6Roughriders-5Spirit-noSundogs-noThunderhawks-no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I swear to God I will never abandon UND athletics and its athletes no matter what nickname they wear. My passion for the school and its sports programs is much deeper than that. I'm all in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The one that was a real wildcard to me, in terms of being the least expected to make this cut, was explorers. I expected plenty that I consider bad (sundogs, pride, spirit) to make the cut, but that's the survivor that was least on my radar. After giving it some thought, it made my personal "acceptable" list because it's unique, is a person (not a feeling or weather phenomenon), is nicely affiliated with the state, and has the potential for a cool logo. However, it's horrible in chants and announcements and has no obvious short version that can be worked into chants. (Interestingly, not being able to be shortened is actually considered a positive according to the committee's criteria).Pretty much my thoughts as well. They would be able to use an X by itself or X's for quite a bit of cool apparel and design ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Actually, having sat through a lot of these committee meetings, I would say that McDonald is one of the least vocal and influential in the room (actually, he's seldom in the room.... he attends via teleconference). It would be a close race between him and the staff representative on the panel. Lowell Schweigert always seems to be the most vocal and engaged... him and Bridewell. I guess I was just referencing his ability to play the race card and trump everyone else. He could just say staying without a nickname will be racist because people will then still use fighting Sioux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I swear to God, if Sundogs is chosen I quit. Whats the logo going to be, a version of a rainbow? UGH No, they are saving that logo if they choose "Pride". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've bee a vocal critic of Roughriders, but it seems pretty obvious, even to me, that it's the best option remaining. And I generally agree that a new nickname is better than no nickname, but honestly, when compared to this list, no nickname is not a bad option. For me: 1) Roughriders - I don't like that we're copying the local high school team, but it's an official nickname of the state and is pretty unique 2) Cavalry - I like it in theory, but the confusion with Calvary can't be ignored. About half the people on this board spell it wrong, and probably say it wrong too. On the other hand, a lot of people spelled Sioux wrong too (but at leas it was easy to pronounce). 3) North Dakota The remaining options are all unacceptable in my opinion. What truly frightens me is that with all the really bad nicknames in the Final 15, at least one of them is sure to make the Final 3. And when that happens, look for outside interests to wreak havoc with the public voting process. ... and I have been a proponent of Roughriders from the start, but the fact that they can't provide a viable alternative to that name for someone who has issues with it, is to me unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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