FargoBison Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It has hit deadspin.... http://deadspin.com/what-should-the-university-of-north-dakotas-new-nicknam-1702176684 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It appears that our friends in Minnesota would like to see "Canadians" as the new nickname... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Now, if we classify those common suggestion into themes, what do we have? Animals Dragons Ermines Flickertails Mallards Meadowlarks Nighthawks Predators Pronghorns Raptors Rattlers Snowy Owls Stallions Concepts Big Green Fire Flame(s) Force Green Machine Legends Nodaks North Dakota Pride Spirit Weather/Outdoors Blizzard Flood North Stars Northern Lights Stars Storm Sundogs Tundra Wind Settler/Pioneer Themes Badlanders Explorers Homesteaders Hunters Settlers Trappers Farming Fighting Farmers Reapers Sodbusters Thrashers (Shouldn't it actually be Threshers?) Flight themes: Aeros Aviators Pilots Oil or Industry Drillers Frackers Roughnecks People Frost Giants Nordics Norse Suggestions That Have No Chance Because They Are Too Controversial or Violent Bombers Cavalry Dakota Dakotans Fighting Dakotans Fighting Warriors Outlaws Warriors Warriors of the North Suggestions That Have No Chance Because They're Weird or They're Blatantly Associated With Something Else Berserkers Blackhawks Kodiaks Paratas Polar Bears Tomahawks Trailblazers Tsunami Yeti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This isn't even funny anymore. It's so embarrassing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 When I look at this list, I suspect that there'll be three or four finalists. One will be an animal, one will be weather-related, and one will be settler/pioneer-related. If you were picking the top one from each category, which would you suggest? Here are my suggestions: Animals - Ermine, and it's not even close. We all understand that, right? Pronghorns could be a distant second. There are no known Ermine mascots and 6 known Pronghorns, but only 1 college and 1 high school are active. Concepts - Every one of those suggestions is lame and trite. It seems like the locals like 'Nodaks', but as an outsider I'll tell you that it won't play well outside the local community. Weather - I like Northern Lights, but is that really a North Dakota thing? I've never visited your fine state. I had to look up 'sundogs', and it's clever but nobody outside the state will have any idea what it is. They'll just assume it's a cartoon dog. Anything associated with bad weather is going to be nixed immediately. There are 2 high schools with "Northern Lights" mascots. There are 4 sundogs, but only 1 (a high school) is active. North Stars is cool, but come on - don't just rip off a Minnesota name. Settler/Pioneer - I actually kind of like Homesteaders and there are no known mascots with that name. Farming - Sodbusters is the best of the lot and there are no known sodbuster mascots (surprisingly). Flight - These are all way too common to be considered. Just mark them off your list now. Oil - Are these really serious options? Roughnecks is okay, I guess, but it's too common. There are several teams with that mascot. People - The two nordic names are a political no go, but Frost Giants is actually really, really cool and no other team has it. If I'm on the committee, the finalists will be: Ermines - Meets every criterion easily. I keep preaching this, but it's true. Northern Lights - Meets all criteria except the ease of a mascot. And seriously, do you get northern lights? Homesteaders - Maybe not the most glamorous, but it meets every criteria. Would certainly be less marketable than the others. Frost Giants - Meets every criterion easily, though its fatal flaw may be that it'll get shortened to "Giants", which is way too common. These four stand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Homesteaders Mallards Norse Nodaks Or North Dakota Frackers could grow on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I've never visited your fine state. Then why such the incredible determination to stick UND with a weasel as a nickname? I also noticed you excluded Nokotas? Haven't bothered to look and see if there were others, that one stuck out as obviously missing from your list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Norse has my vote. Is this Ermines thing serious? I would honestly think about dropping out of school and never associating myself with UND if that happens. What an embarrassment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://ermines.com is for sale! Domain availability was apparently one of the criteria Rough riders was excluded from the list, even though roughriders.com isn't used. The USHL team, a Texas minor league team, and the CFL team use other domain names. Rough riders is a state nickname, but it can't be used. Ridiculous! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Then why such the incredible determination to stick UND with a weasel as a nickname? I also noticed you excluded Nokotas? Haven't bothered to look and see if there were others, that one stuck out as obviously missing from your list. It's not my list. It's THE list, and Nokotas isn't on it. Whatever a Nokota is, it's no longer in the running. And why am I here promoting the honorable ermine? Because I care, that's why. I want to be able to look toward the top of the NCAA map and see a fierce and proud mascot staring back. I want to walk the streets of New York and Los Angeles and Omaha and see a person wearing a green and white UNDermines sweatshirt with pride. I want to see an 8-foot pure white mascot named the tERMINEator wandering your sidelines, exhorting the crowd to victory over gophers and badgers and other quadrupeds. I'm not here for me. I'm not here for you. I'm not even here for the ermines. I'm here to mediate the perfect marriage of school and symbol, the perfect representation of the North Dakota experience. The ermine was here long before man and will be here long after, living off the land, thriving in the depths of winter, and overcoming all obstacles. The ermine is the metaphor for both man's experience in North Dakota, exploring and battling the wild, and for the primeval world before man. As much as the ermine differs from us, the ermine is us. As John F. Kennedy once said, "Ich bin ein Erminer." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDErmines Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Rough riders was excluded from the list, even though roughriders.com isn't used. The USHL team, a Texas minor league team, and the CFL team use other domain names. Rough riders is a state nickname, but it can't be used. Ridiculous! I don't know if commonness was the reason, but there are a fair number of past and present roughrider teams. http://mascotdb.com/displaymatches.php?mascotoperand=equals&mascot=Roughriders#.VUhOD_lVgSU. My guess is that the CFL team probably doomed that name for UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I am quite surprised that neither Rough Riders or Nokota will apparently not be considered. Not really a fan of either, but figured both would probably be amongst the Top 5 or so in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This isn't even funny anymore. It's so embarrassing.This...^^^ I would to see Kelley to form a task force that will form a committee as to give an explanation why some publicly "popular" names were omitted, see post above, yet some ridiculously stupid ones remain an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Please share what you think is wrong with the process - I'm seeing that everyone gets a say - and you can't screen for idiots. it's getting nationwide publicity (which might help fuel forcing other schools to change) - and no matter what you personally think this type of national publicity is good for UND. Thank goodness the decision will be made on the quality of the name not the number of times it was submitted (you could submit more than once so I guarantee some of those names were submitted multiple times by people with too much time on their hands.) I do not envy them having to cull this list down to three. I continue to applaud and thank those who are volunteering their time and energy to this committee - knowing they are going to receive plenty of heat no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Please share what you think is wrong with the process - I'm seeing that everyone gets a say - and you can't screen for idiots. it's getting nationwide publicity (which might help fuel forcing other schools to change) - and no matter what you personally think this type of national publicity is good for UND. Thank goodness the decision will be made on the quality of the name not the number of times it was submitted (you could submit more than once so I guarantee some of those names were submitted multiple times by people with too much time on their hands.) I do not envy them having to cull this list down to three. I continue to applaud and thank those who are volunteering their time and energy to this committee - knowing they are going to receive plenty of heat no matter what. Yes on quality and not on quantity, like ermines, one guy posted it 60 times, obvious by the writing after each one! Give it a rest already! Flickertails?!!!!!! Obviously written on there by bison and gopher pukes! My god this is awful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Yes on quality and not on quantity, like ermines, one guy posted it 60 times, obvious by the writing after each one! Give it a rest already! Flickertails?!!!!!! Obviously written on there by bison and gopher pukes! My god this is awful! I wouldn't mind Flickertails. There/they're/their is history and tradition with that name. I doubt it would happen though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I wouldn't mind Flickertails. There/they're/their is history and tradition with that name. I doubt it would happen though. It's not that bad, plus we are the Flickertail state. Looking at some the bad names on the list (Ermines) Flickertails could be a possibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'm trying to figure out why they have the same names on both lists, like weasels, I mean ermines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's not my list. It's THE list, and Nokotas isn't on it. Whatever a Nokota is, it's no longer in the running. And why am I here promoting the honorable ermine? Because I care, that's why. I want to be able to look toward the top of the NCAA map and see a fierce and proud mascot staring back. I want to walk the streets of New York and Los Angeles and Omaha and see a person wearing a green and white UNDermines sweatshirt with pride. I want to see an 8-foot pure white mascot named the tERMINEator wandering your sidelines, exhorting the crowd to victory over gophers and badgers and other quadrupeds. I'm not here for me. I'm not here for you. I'm not even here for the ermines. I'm here to mediate the perfect marriage of school and symbol, the perfect representation of the North Dakota experience. The ermine was here long before man and will be here long after, living off the land, thriving in the depths of winter, and overcoming all obstacles. The ermine is the metaphor for both man's experience in North Dakota, exploring and battling the wild, and for the primeval world before man. As much as the ermine differs from us, the ermine is us. As John F. Kennedy once said, "Ich bin ein Erminer." "Your sidelines" says a lot. The more I hear this name, the more I think someone is trying to perpetrate a joke on the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George M. Bluth Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'm trying to figure out why they have the same names on both lists, like weasels, I mean ermines. I think the lists are based on individual submissions, not the nicknames. Seems like it's a Considered list and a Total list. So some names go on the non-considered list due to the rationale or other reasons, while a different submission for the same name has better rationale, therefore, goes on the considered list. Hopefully that makes sense, that's my understanding of it at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Your sidelines" says a lot. The more I hear this name, the more I think someone is trying to perpetrate a joke on the process. I smell a Bison troll I mean an Ermine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 ?.. as an outsider... ... I've never visited your fine state.... Wait, wait, wait.... So why are you here? Both a) on this website, but also b) giving ANY input/suggestion to our nickname?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well, I still have no clue how the list system works, but this was in the GF Herald's article this morning: Another popular theme among the names that won’t be considered were submissions for no nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogg1971 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It appears that our friends in Minnesota would like to see "Canadians" as the new nickname... It's just their little feeble way of acknowledging that Canadian hockey is better than Minnesota hockey. Oh, and it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogg1971 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I smell a Bison troll I mean an Ermine. What you smell is the arm of bissson student just freshly pulled out of a cows rear-end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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