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It comes down to funding revenue. Their marginal cost is much lower than on campus students but UND get's the same funding from the state per student, which is already higher than NDSU on a per-person basis, while these people pay far more than regular tuition.

The funding model for state appropriations is not tied to enrollment.

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Don't forget he's a UND student. Which is obvious by his posts in this thread.

I think this is the term you are alluding to:

Sockpuppet: A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about himself while pretending to be another person.

Full source citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)

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I can comment on students living in the Resident Halls at UND. They are as full as they have been in recent memory and doubles as singles are no longer allowed. Also, the lounge in JF and the main floor in one of the Wilkerson complex halls have been converted into rooms. So there are plenty of students living on campus in the halls anyway.

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Behind some of the numbers....

The final count represents a 3.7 percent increase over last year's spring enrollment of 13,458 students, which also was a record. The 2012 spring enrollment includes 483 students who transferred to UND from other schools.

Among the different colleges at UND, the School of Engineering and Mines(SEM) saw the largest gains in students, continuing an upward trend over the past five spring semesters. SEM's spring enrollment has grown by 45 percent, or more than 500 students, since 2007. The Graduate School at UND also continued to post strong numbers with 2,679 students enrolled, a 5.2-percent increase over last spring's count of 2,547.

UND continues to draw the vast majority of its students from North Dakota and Minnesota. Students from those two states total more than 10,400, or 75 percent of UND's spring enrollees.

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I think this is the term you are alluding to:

Sockpuppet: A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about himself while pretending to be another person.

Full source citation: http://en.wikipedia....uppet_(Internet)

I prefer the term poseur.

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NDSU has higher median act scores (by a trivial amount). UND has gotten the rep for the school you go to party at, while NDSU is the school your go to study at, which is why UND has been fighting the drinking so hard lately. The state's best students leave, which is why UND and NDSU both have median act scores equal to the states average.

That must be why UND is the 11th Most Popular College in America.

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The state's best students leave, which is why UND and NDSU both have median act scores equal to the states average.

That must be NDSU math.

If the best leave, the UND and NDSU median relative to the state's median should go down.

However, if the state's best are leaving, and UND and NDSU are holding par to the state average, that should be the result of: UND and NDSU attacting talented non-ND folks to bring their averages back up to the state's average (call it "make up for the losses").

Or your statement that the "state's best students leave" is just plain in err.

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UND Summer Session Enrollment: 6,020 – Up 9.3 Percent Over Last Year

The University of North Dakota has posted its largest ever Summer Session enrollment: 6,020, up 9.3 percent over last year's 5,506. The 2010 UND Summer Session enrollment was 5,098.

UND President Robert Kelley said the enrollment showed good stability across the board. Colleges that showed particular increases include the College of Engineering and Mines (483, up 149 or 44.6 percent over last year) and the John D. Odegard School of Aerospace Sciences (757, up 125 or 19.8 percent over last year). Both are enjoying growth for multiple reasons, but Kelley cited the College of Engineering and Mines' focus on Petroleum Engineering with a new degree and new department, and the John D. Odegard School of Aerospace Sciences' burgeoning pioneering work in educating students for the world of Unmanned Aircraft Systems.

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Insider data shows:

Engineering College and Aerospace were the two divisions that grew the most between last year and this year. The Engineering College grew by a whopping 25 percent from 1,227 students to 1,532 students (based on first-day data). Aerospace grew by 13 percent, from 1,295 to 1,462. This means that for the first time, that I can recall, The Engineering College has outdrawn Aerospace in enrollment.

The Grad School grew by 6 percent percent, from 2,458 to 2,604 students. Another big gainer was BPA, which grew from 1,656 to 1,721, or 4 percent.

The College of Arts and Sciences increased from 3,041 to 3,127, or nearly 3 percent.

Medical school (professional) gained 7 students, but the law school declined by 12, with 259 and 240 students, respectively.

As far as classes go... the freshman class was 291 students more than the first day fall numbers in 2011 at 3,013.

The sophomore class dropped by 9 students to 2,764.

The junior class grew by 107 students to 107 to 2,180.

The senior class grew by 194 students to 3,642

Beginning freshman numbers grew by 272, or 13 percent to 2,376.

Transfer student numbers grew by 62 or 7.4 percent to 903.

These are just some highlights.

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That's right - I'll take butts in the seat to virtual students anyday. The economics is just better....

And online is the future. Not all students will be online, but it is becoming a bigger factor in higher education every year. Not embracing that trend is wasting an opportunity.
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http://www.inforum.c...icle/id/371782/

There is Brescani towing the company line, much like Dan. Brescani just had to try to explain why they weren't the highest, he couldn't help himself. They are so chapped (pun intended) by the fact they aren't #1 anymore (which they were for like 5 years - the length of a transition) that they need to try and throw out barbs like that to make themselves feel better. 5 years in the last 125+.

Is there anything that Brescani doesn't bitch about?

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And online is the future. Not all students will be online, but it is becoming a bigger factor in higher education every year. Not embracing that trend is wasting an opportunity.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/371782/

While UND has a higher overall headcount for the second consecutive year, Bresciani said 95 percent of NDSU’s students are in traditional classroom-based courses instead of online or distance learning classes.

“NDSU continues to be the choice of students who want a traditional full-time college experience in a demanding research university environment,” he wrote.

:silly:

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That's right - I'll take butts in the seat to virtual students anyday. The economics is just better....

Better for the city, not as good for the university. Online students at UND still have to pay the student fees (other than the wellness center) even though they don't really benefit from the services provided.

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