stoneySIOUX Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: I think the Rangers, San Jose and Vancouver would all be bad. Vancouver because they are trash and need to give their fans something to get excited about. Remember, the Rangers just drafted EJ Emery. As a Rangers fan, I know college hockey was never a consistent route for their drafted players, but they have always said they trust EJ's development with UND. They are a couple years away, so no need for an 18 year old defensemen or two come up right away. I think it would be a great landing spot for either KV or Carels, but I'm obviously biased haha. Quote
RhettRingers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, as15 said: The list of 18 year old defenseman that play meaningful minutes in the NHL is basically non-existent in the last 20+ years. It's Matthew Schaefer, Rasmus Dahlin, Noah Hanifin,and Aaron Ekblad. That's three 1OA picks and a player that played a full year in the NCAA prior to going pro. He looks like Schaefer... Quote
beastandco Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I think it’s worth noting that Carels definitely did not go rogue with commitment and his representatives certainly discussed it with potential teams before making it official. Quote
RhettRingers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I think what we have going for us is that he is somewhat local, so will be easier for family to come down and watch. I just don't want it to be an option for him after development camp. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 12 minutes ago, RhettRingers said: JT Miller JT Miller committed to UND in October of 2010 and reneged in July of 2011, that's a world of a difference to me vs committing in May, and reneging a month or 2 later. 1 Quote
skateshattrick Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: JT Miller committed to UND in October of 2010 and reneged in July of 2011, that's a world of a difference to me vs committing in May, and reneging a month or 2 later. If I recall correctly, JT MIller was drafted by the Rangers and then decided to play in the OHL rather than college. Carson Carels is jumping from the WHL to college. Quote
Wilbur Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I think regardless of where he gets drafted you're still looking at the prospect of an 18 year old (this June, still 17) kid making a monumental jump after playing against U20 guys in Prince George. Lets see where he's at after a year in college hockey playing against some men from Duluth, Denver, Western, etc. I'm not a legal expert in terms of the "grant in aid" that the kid signed with UND. Back to the draft standpoint, I don't think he's going ahead of baby Jesus, Stenberg, Molhotra, or Chase Reid. Vancouver is likely to go whoever is left between Molhotra or Stenberg, but I think San Jose goes with Stenberg as an elite forward to play with baby Jesus of last year's draft, and Molhotra makes all the sense in the world for Vancouver with his time in the region previously with a couple of organizations. Reid ends up in Chicago, and then Carels to NY, and Verhoeff to Calgary. My two cents. 3 Quote
AJS Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago At this point, although possible, I would think it would be highly unlikely. There was a level of pageantry put into the Carels commitment that I've never seen before from UND. It's safe to assume that Carels mind is made up, UND believes that Carels mind is made up. I don't think the commitment happens if Carels goal would be pushing for a spot in the Fall. It wouldn't make sense that a team would be so opposed to the college route for a year. 4 Quote
Sioux90 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, I Ranger said: I think there's a chance we see Kernan on the wing potentially on the right side with Reschny and Zellers. I like Kernan at Wing too. I think it fits his game more. Quote
scpa0305 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, RhettRingers said: He looks like Schaefer... He’s the same size but he’s different. Carels is a great skater, Schaefer is one of the most explosive skaters on planet earth. Probably the closest thing to McDavid honestly. Schaefer is a unicorn. I really like Carels , but he’s not Schaefer. 2 Quote
Fratt Mattin Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, scpa0305 said: He’s the same size but he’s different. Carels is a great skater, Schaefer is one of the most explosive skaters on planet earth. Probably the closest thing to McDavid honestly. Schaefer is a unicorn. I really like Carels , but he’s not Schaefer. Agreed. I think Schaefer's success has convinced a lot of people that he's the rule rather than a very rare exception. The vast majority of teenage defensemen who get a shot in the NHL get caved in and quickly sent down to the minors. Levshunov was drafted #2 overall with more hype and pedigree than Carels and he was also known for his physical maturity. Yet he's been a complete liability for Chicago and only dressed 18 games for them as a 19 year old rookie last year. As a general rule, I think most defensemen are better off staying in juniors/college for their first two seasons after being drafted, even when they're a high draft pick. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, skateshattrick said: If I recall correctly, JT MIller was drafted by the Rangers and then decided to play in the OHL rather than college. Carson Carels is jumping from the WHL to college. Yup, another point for this situation is completely different. Quote
Blackheart Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, RhettRingers said: JT Miller eff JT Miller! Quote
Fratt Mattin Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, thUNDer said: Just saw Vancouver fired Coach Foote I don't see the argument that Vancouver would want to rush a guy like Verhoeff or Carels into the league. Why would you want to bring your new, top draft pick into a dumpster fire of a situation? Let them grow in college while you bottom out and don't bring them on board until you have some half decent teammates that they can play with. There's so little to be gained developmentally by playing in a bad environment. What good are 20 minutes a night in the NHL when you're spending all 20 of those minutes fighting for your life and learning bad habits? Quote
cberkas Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thUNDer said: Just saw Vancouver fired Coach Foote Not surprised, they want Malhotra to stay in the organization Quote
Scratch Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Even if we end up ocassionally losing guys like Carels and Verhoeff by surprise its heartening that we can get commitments from the very top again. The teams from the first half of Hak's tenure were so fun to watch, it seems like Jackson intends to build similarly dynamic teams (which ironically so far has yielded the same of result of getting spanked in F4 lol) 2 Quote
atxsioux Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, Scratch said: Even if we end up ocassionally losing guys like Carels and Verhoeff by surprise it’s heartening that we can get commitments from the very top again. The teams from the first half of Hak's tenure were so fun to watch, it seems like Jackson intends to build similarly dynamic teams (which ironically so far has yielded the same of result of getting spanked in F4 lol) I’ll take that excitement of Frozen Four Thursday all day over what we had in years 2016 thru 2025 lol. 1 Quote
brianvf Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Last year, UND takes two players from Victoria Royals back to back. This year, they grab two from Prince George back to back. Who are they taking a pair from next year? 1 Quote
beastandco Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, brianvf said: Last year, UND takes two players from Victoria Royals back to back. This year, they grab two from Prince George back to back. Who are they taking a pair from next year? Pue and Schultz Quote
tnt Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, beastandco said: Pue and Schultz …or Victoria again with McKamey and Ludovic Perreault, although both probably need a couple of years yet. Quote
brianvf Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Quote Dumanski, a 6-foot-2, 211-pound left-hander from Lockwood, Sask., played five seasons and 309 regular-season games for Prince George, ranking first in franchise history among defensemen. Dumanski, 21, became a fan favorite in Prince George, where he was used in all situations. He played on the power play and led Prince George in shorthanded time on ice. Dumanski led the entire Western Hockey League in blocked shots last season with 181, finishing 17 blocks ahead of anyone else. 1 Quote
TrueSioux2000 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, Scratch said: Even if we end up ocassionally losing guys like Carels and Verhoeff by surprise its heartening that we can get commitments from the very top again. The teams from the first half of Hak's tenure were so fun to watch, it seems like Jackson intends to build similarly dynamic teams (which ironically so far has yielded the same of result of getting spanked in F4 lol) YES. THIS! I was going to be (or already was?) jaded if it turned into football where only big name schools could compete. I’m so happy our coaching staff is competing in recruiting in today’s environment. It’s all you could ask of them right now, and hope they can develop that talent into a championship team. I’m very bullish on the future of UND hockey. Quote
brianvf Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, beastandco said: Pue and Schultz Now we're talking. Although that'd probably be for 28/29. 1 Quote
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